Suggest a better Sharpening plugin other than what im using !

[s8n]

hi Doom 9 members , i am working on a DVD movie to h.264 format. What im having a problem with is when the camera zooms in and also stays still on the side of the Bus there is some movement like blocking or ringing from the Sharpening plugin i have applied.

below is a pic of what im working on.......


http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/8493/snap22.jpg

can anyone suggest a better plugin i can use im using aWarpSharp ?

This is my avisynth script below maybe theres a problem you can identify with it , im not a pro at encoding !


LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\MeGUI_2112_x86\tools\avisynth_plugin\aWarpSharp.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\MeGUI_2112_x86\tools\avisynth_plugin\\Decomb.dll")
<input>
AssumeTFF()
Telecide(guide=3)
ChangeFPS(29.97)
aWarpSharp (12,2,0.3,2)

[Guest]

Please post a link to an unprocessed VOB fragment.

[s8n]

howdy neuron , check out my link below

http://www.mediafire.com/?39a0e9ng99d547a

..........id love to see what people here think and can teach me.

[Guest]

Did you re-author from something other than the original DVD? If not, please explain the strange thing you have uploaded.

[Guest]

What you uploaded has soft 3:2 pulldown. So first you need:

Telecide()
Decimate()

and get rid of that ChangeFPS(). I see no artifacts doing that.

What is your target format?

[s8n]

i used DVDshrink to rip out a small part from my original DVD

What you uploaded has soft 3:2 pulldown. So first you need:

Telecide()
Decimate()

and get rid of that ChangeFPS(). I see no artifacts doing that.

What is your target format?


roger that

my target is 720 x 480 h.264 10bit Bit Depth using megui.........im using a heavily edited Profile instead of the built in ones.

[Guest]

OK regarding source, thank you. Just doing my due diligence. :)

After IVTC you'll have 23.976. Leave it that way.

So how does it work for you with my processing?

I don't like awarpsharp. Others will suggest sharpening for you. I wanted to get your basic IVTC working right.

[s8n]

hi again , thanks for your tips so far............

atm im having some problems over here such as when ive added

Telecide()
Decimate()

to my updated script...........

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\MeGUI_2112_x86\tools\avisynth_plugin\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\MeGUI_2112_x86\tools\avisynth_plugin\aWarpSharp.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\MeGUI_2112_x86\tools\avisynth_plugin\Decomb.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\License\New folder\VIDEO_TS\New folder\VTS 01 1.d2v")
Telecide()
Decimate()
aWarpSharp (12,2,0.3,2)


the end result file that pops out of megui runs jerky for some reason. Ive checked the Properties in MPC-HC it reports Video 19.181fps.

Ive been googling trying to find some more info im still am working on it.

[s8n]

im still learning and found that the plugin needs parameters :stupid:.......

im making progress though !

i managed to get the end video to run properly and not jerk. Im going through the manual learning more about the plugin.



i just came back to say thanks to neuron for the concept of Telecide() Decimate() ive managed to get it right............. so if anyone still wants to swing by and mention some Sharpening plugins id like that


chat soon

[Guest]

You got 19 fps because you did Forced Film and IVTC in your script, I suppose.

You have 3:2 pulldown so you can either:

Honor pulldown (with field operation option) and use Telecide/Decimate in your script.

...or...

Use Force Film and omit Telecide/Decimate

...but not both.

If it is pure soft 3:2 throughout, then the second is better.

[s8n]

i did some more googling after your last response and i pulled the site below if im correct its yours ?

http://neuron2.net/faq.html



i ran a test on a high motion scene through VirtualDub......below is a part to remind you of what i read on the site.

Now serve the script into VirtualDub and step through the fields in a high motion section. We will label a new picture with a new letter below. If you see a repeating field sequence like this:


i found this sequence in my small clip...........

... a a a b b c c c d d ...


On the site it says...........

Then it is 3:2 pulled-down progressive video.


what are your thoughts on what i should do ?


btw i read the ........

Decomb Plugin for Avisynth
(Version 5.2.1)
Tutorial
by Donald A. Graft


and i determined from the test in step 1 my field order is top field first

so ive been using Telecide(order=1,guide=0)

[Guest]

I told you in my previous post, so I suppose you didn't understand it.

Set Forced Film in DGIndex (Video/Field Operation). Re-save the project. Then make your script without Telecide and Decimate. It will be 23.976 clean progressive.

[SEt]

Don't use aWarpSharp-like filters for sharpening video – they are intended for anime and correcting special problems. Look at LimitedSharpenFaster or FFT3DFilter (if you are ok with halos).
And hope you are at least using aWarpSharp from aWarpSharp2, not the original one as it was very buggy.

[Guest]

don't use awarpsharp-like filters for sharpening video +1 :)