BD Rebuilder 0.40.07

[vze2mp9g]

Hello,
I just finished using BD Rebuilder, and it worked GREAT. I copied everything to a DVD9 disc and it played on my DVD in my comuter(not the BD Burner, but a regular DVD) and I was happy. UNTIL I went to playing in my normal Stand Alone DVD players (3 different ones) and they all had the same problem, they couldn't read the disc, or they said NO DISC. SO, I tried playing the 8.5Gb disc in my blu-ray stand alone player and it wouldn't play. The Stand Alone Blu-Ray player is a Samsung, if this helps anyone.

I have the latest version of ImgBurn, and when BD Rebuilder finished, ImgBurn created the image on my HD. Then I wrote the image to the DVD9 disc.

Can anyone help me or tell me why I can't get the movie (The Green Mile) to play? I am using Slysoft's AnyDVD HD 7.0.0.0.
Thank You.

[jdobbs]

You can't play a BD formatted disc (no matter what media it is on) on a standalone DVD player. It is encoded in AVC -- and a DVD player has no idea what that is. The AVC codec is what makes the quality so high even though the disc is smaller than a blu-ray.

If you are trying to do a full backup to a BD-9 disc, you have to know your player. If your player supports AVCHD, any movie-only backup will play on it. But AVCHD doesn't support VC-1 encoding, BD-J menus, or DTS audio -- so if you're doing a full-back only certain players will work will full BD-9 backups. A BD-25 backup will work on all BD players.

[vze2mp9g]

You can't play a BD formatted disc (no matter what media it is on) on a standalone DVD player. It is encoded in AVC -- and a DVD player has no idea what that is. The AVC codec is what makes the quality so high even though the disc is smaller than a blu-ray.

If you are trying to do a full backup to a BD-9 disc, you have to know your player. If your player supports AVCHD, any movie-only backup will play on it. But AVCHD doesn't support VC-1 encoding, BD-J menus, or DTS audio -- so if you're doing a full-back only certain players will work will full BD-9 backups. A BD-25 backup will work on all BD players.

Okay, I'm backing up GREEN_MILE_THE to a DVD-9 with BD AVCHD not checked, and right now it's backing the BD (Files on HD). Now when it's finished, will it automatically use ImgBurn and write the file to disc, if so, where will the ISO file be and what will it be called GREEN_MILE_THE.ISO?

Next, what is the Create Batch Queue in the FILE menu used for? Do I NEED to use this is I want a DVD-9 backup? Right now, I have to wait approximately 42 hours until it's finished. In the Workfiles directory, I have allot of .SUP files. This is all new to me, so please, take that into consideration when answering.
Thank You. :o

[Ch3vr0n]

for your ISO part question, check the anydvd forum. Ya posted the exact same thing there. The Batch queue is well kinda like a queue at the cash register in your local supermarket. Waiting in turn. Means that you can configure 1 job, add it to the queue; setup a 2nd job (by browsing to a new source, and configuring it) and then add it to the queue.... Then when you hit the button "batch backup" it will process all the discs in the queue one after the other.

The only catch is afaik (if you use mounted iso's as a source) that you'll either have to mount the iso's each in their own drive or swap them out in time because BDRB can't swap iso's in mounted drives. If you'll use the batch option, i'd rip to folders. DVD-9 backup has nothing to do with that

[jdobbs]

Okay, I'm backing up GREEN_MILE_THE to a DVD-9 with BD AVCHD not checked, and right now it's backing the BD (Files on HD). Now when it's finished, will it automatically use ImgBurn and write the file to disc, if so, where will the ISO file be and what will it be called GREEN_MILE_THE.ISO?

Next, what is the Create Batch Queue in the FILE menu used for? Do I NEED to use this is I want a DVD-9 backup? Right now, I have to wait approximately 42 hours until it's finished. In the Workfiles directory, I have allot of .SUP files. This is all new to me, so please, take that into consideration when answering.
Thank You. :o42 hours? What kind of computer could possibly take 42 hours? Even my full backup jobs are done in less than four -- and I'm nowhere near the higher end of computing power...

[Ch3vr0n]

euhm jdobbs, remember your previous computer? ^^ Not everyone has a fast one :)

[jdobbs]

euhm jdobbs, remember your previous computer? ^^ Not everyone has a fast one :)

Well, 8 or even 12 hours would be a slow one. 42 hours makes me think it has other issues...

[Groucho2004]

42 hours? What kind of computer could possibly take 42 hours?
Not so surprising:
MoBo: Asus P4P800 Deluxe
As far as I remember, this board supports up to P4 Northwood which is easily 10-15 times slower with x264 than current top of the line processors.

[jdobbs]

Not so surprising:

As far as I remember, this board supports up to P4 Northwood which is easily 10-15 times slower with x264 than current top of the line processors. Ahh.. I never noticed that in his signature... the last BIOS update for that board was in 2005. BD-RB and X264 just aren't suited very well for computers that old... in fact -- some fast/modern processors still have a hard time with HD encoding. On the other hand, if time isn't that important it should still work...

[vze2mp9g]

42 hours? What kind of computer could possibly take 42 hours? Even my full backup jobs are done in less than four -- and I'm nowhere near the higher end of computing power...

Pentium 4 @ 3.0Ghz, 2Gb Mem, Running Windows 7 Ultimate, ASUS P4P MoBo, Radeon HD4650 Graphics Card. My computer is nine years old. Plus, I'm doing a movie only backup of The Green Mile, which is a 40.1Gb ISO file (mounted with Slysoft's Virtual Clone Drive 5.4.5.0). It has to be converted into a DVD-9 File. I now just have about 17 hours left (271359 frames).:o

This is my second attempted. The first attempted I made a BD-9 disc, which I couldn't play in my normal DVD player. Someone at Slysoft's Forum mention that I had to uncheck the Output BD to AVCHD Compliant Structure under the Mode/Alternate Movie-Only Output, and that allowed me to check the DVD-9 Output.

My next attempt will be Batman Begins to see if that takes just as long. Then, as soon as I receive my BD25 discs, I'm going to do a full backup of The Green Mile, which hopefully will retain all the menus and takes allot less time.

[jdobbs]

Pentium 4 @ 3.0Ghz, 2Gb Mem, Running Windows 7 Ultimate, ASUS P4P MoBo, Radeon HD4650 Graphics Card. My computer is nine years old. Plus, I'm doing a movie only backup of The Green Mile, which is a 40.1Gb ISO file (mounted with Slysoft's Virtual Clone Drive 5.4.5.0). It has to be converted into a DVD-9 File. I now just have about 17 hours left (271359 frames).:o

This is my second attempted. The first attempted I made a BD-9 disc, which I couldn't play in my normal DVD player. Someone at Slysoft's Forum mention that I had to uncheck the Output BD to AVCHD Compliant Structure under the Mode/Alternate Movie-Only Output, and that allowed me to check the DVD-9 Output.

My next attempt will be Batman Begins to see if that takes just as long. Then, as soon as I receive my BD25 discs, I'm going to do a full backup of The Green Mile, which hopefully will retain all the menus and takes allot less time. None of the standard output options will work on a normal DVD player -- you need a blu-ray player. If you select MODE/ALTERNATE OUTPUT/DVD-5/DVD-9 it will work on a normal DVD player, but it will not be HD... you'll just have a DVD version of the original blu-ray disc.

[vze2mp9g]

None of the standard output options will work on a normal DVD player -- you need a blu-ray player. If you select MODE/ALTERNATE OUTPUT/DVD-5/DVD-9 it will work on a normal DVD player, but it will not be HD... you'll just have a DVD version of the original blu-ray disc.

THANK YOU for clearing that up! Now, will the DVD-9 be playable on any stand alone BD player and will it keep in tact the original menu options, like skipping to a certain chapter or going to a special commentary section?

Do you know of any program that will convert a Blu-Ray Movie into a regular DVD-9 format so that it can be played in a normal DVD player with the original menus? VSO has somthing that can do that, put it put's it own menus on the disc, which isn't too appealing.
Thanks again. :)

[jdobbs]

THANK YOU for clearing that up! Now, will the DVD-9 be playable on any stand alone BD player and will it keep in tact the original menu options, like skipping to a certain chapter or going to a special commentary section?

Do you know of any program that will convert a Blu-Ray Movie into a regular DVD-9 format so that it can be played in a normal DVD player with the original menus? VSO has somthing that can do that, put it put's it own menus on the disc, which isn't too appealing.
Thanks again. :) Let's clear up our terminology. A DVD-9 is a DVD formatted disc. A BD-9 is a blu-ray format that is written to a DVD+-R that is dual-layer. A DVD will play on any DVD player or Blu-ray player. A BD-9 will only play on a blu-ray player, just like a blu-ray disc. A DVD-9 is not HD, it is 720x480 in the US and 720x576 in PAL regions. A BD-9 is usually 1920x1080 or 1280x720.

A movie-only BD-9 will play on almost any blu-ray player. A full backup to BD-9 will play on certain blu-ray players that support it (there is a thread here that lists some). A BD-25 full backup will play on any blu-ray player.

As for creating a DVD from a blu-ray, BD Rebuilder will do that with ALTERNATE/DVD-5/9 -- but remember, it will be standard definition. There are no standard DVD players that will playback HD recordings.

There is no software that will backup a Blu-ray disc with menus to a DVD-9. The two standards are just too different in the way they handle menus etc...

[vze2mp9g]

Let's clear up our terminology. A DVD-9 is a DVD formatted disc. A BD-9 is a blu-ray format that is written to a DVD+-R that is dual-layer. A DVD will play on any DVD player or Blu-ray player. A BD-9 will only play on a blu-ray player, just like a blu-ray disc. A DVD-9 is not HD, it is 720x480 in the US and 720x576 in PAL regions. A BD-9 is usually 1920x1080 or 1280x720.

A movie-only BD-9 will play on almost any blu-ray player. A full backup to BD-9 will play on certain blu-ray players that support it (there is a thread here that lists some). A BD-25 full backup will play on any blu-ray player.

As for creating a DVD from a blu-ray, BD Rebuilder will do that with ALTERNATE/DVD-5/9 -- but remember, it will be standard definition. There are no standard DVD players that will playback HD recordings.

There is no software that will backup a Blu-ray disc with menus to a DVD-9. The two standards are just too different in the way they handle menus etc...

Okay, that explains everything now. You've been a big help, and I'm doing the right thing. I can view it on a normal DVD player, but no menus like the original.

When I backup the full Movie to the BD25, it will retain everything including menus, correct?
:thanks:

[jdobbs]

Okay, that explains everything now. You've been a big help, and I'm doing the right thing. I can view it on a normal DVD player, but no menus like the original.

When I backup the full Movie to the BD25, it will retain everything including menus, correct?
:thanks: Yes. A full backup will retain all menus, extras etc. The only thing it will remove is audio or subtitle tracks that you have specifically told it to remove through the setup menu or from the streams list.