Log in

View Full Version : Replacement for DGDecNV potentially needed


MrVideo
7th February 2012, 21:15
I personally use DGDecNV and believe that it is THE program to use to serve video to the x264 encoder via AVIsynth scripts.

Unfortunately there is a person I am working with that does not like, and will not purchase, Nvidia graphics cards. He claims they screw up and bog down his systems.

What is out there that will do the same thing that DGDecNV does, but via software only? Is there such a thing?

Thanks.

Guest
7th February 2012, 21:36
There is nothing else that will do the same thing.

MrVideo
7th February 2012, 21:39
Thanks, that is what I thought.

MrVideo
7th February 2012, 21:50
Refresh my memory...

Why can't dgavcindex be usd?

poisondeathray
7th February 2012, 22:09
Refresh my memory...

Why can't dgavcindex be usd?


It's no longer being developed, and has problems with some streams, notably PAFF AVC streams

Maybe something similiar would be DGAVCDecDI , but it requires a license, both from DiAVC, and Neuron2.net supporter
http://neuron2.net/dgavcdecdi/dgavcdecdi.html

MrVideo
7th February 2012, 22:14
It's no longer being developed, and has problems with some streams, notably PAFF AVC streams

That's it, it was the PAFF issue.

Maybe something similiar would be DGAVCDecDI , but it requires a license, both from DiAVC, and Neuron2.net supporter
http://neuron2.net/dgavcdecdi/dgavcdecdi.html

I wonder why neuron2 didn't mention his other product?

poisondeathray
7th February 2012, 22:23
I wonder why neuron2 didn't mention his other product?


Not sure

He originally needed something to be fixed with ffmpeg/libavcodec in order to update dgavcdec, but apparently it was on a "todo" list on the ffmpeg developers list, but still nothing for a few years...

MrVideo
7th February 2012, 22:29
I don't need dgavcdec, as I use the better Nvidia CUDA version.

I didn't know he have a Direct Show version. I'll be suggesting it to the other person.

amtm
7th February 2012, 22:35
I wonder why neuron2 didn't mention his other product?

Because the two aren't the same thing? DGAVCDecDI only does H.264. DGDecNV supports H.264, VC-1 and MPEG-2 through the built-in video decoder.

MrVideo
7th February 2012, 22:40
But, they are in the same family. And, in this case, it is H.264 video that needs to be served. It will not be MPEG-2 or VC-1.

amtm
7th February 2012, 22:45
But, they are in the same family. And, in this case, it is H.264 video that needs to be served. It will not be MPEG-2 or VC-1.

Okay, but they don't "do the same thing". DGDecNV indexes/decodes multiple formats. DGAVCDecDI doesn't. That is probably why neuron2 said what he did.

MrVideo
7th February 2012, 22:55
While it is true that they don't do exactly the same thing, they both do H.264, so it could have been mentioned as a potential program to use. It never hurts to mention similar programs.

Guest
7th February 2012, 23:11
I didn't mention it because you didn't specify your video format.

DGAVCDec was withdrawn long ago and I do not grant anyone license to use it.

DGAVCDecDI is usable but DiAVC releases new versions without bothering about breaking stuff in other people's apps (that use their SDK!) so I don't try anymore to keep up to the latest. I shouldn't have to re-engineer my program when DiAVC changes, and I don't mean the SDK, that stayed the same but the decoder changes broke my stuff. I'm a bit irritated about it to be honest. If you can live with the diavc.ax that I ship then DGAVCDecDI is an option.

MrVideo
7th February 2012, 23:26
I didn't mention it because you didn't specify your video format.

Sorry about that.

DGAVCDec was withdrawn long ago and I do not grant anyone license to use it.

Does MeGUI still use it? I haven't haven't used that GUI in ages, not since I have my own scripts that are easier to use.

DGAVCDecDI is usable but DiAVC releases new versions without bothering about breaking stuff in other people's apps (that use their SDK!) so I don't try anymore to keep up to the latest. I shouldn't have to re-engineer my program when DiAVC changes, and I don't mean the SDK, that stayed the same but the decoder changes broke my stuff. I'm a bit irritated about it to be honest. If you can live with the diavc.ax that I ship then DGAVCDecDI is an option.

Thanks, I will forward the info.

Chumbo
8th February 2012, 01:21
Are DGAVCDecDI and DiAVC available in 64bit? Also, the link to VBVChecker on the official neuron2 site is broken.

Guest
8th February 2012, 02:53
No 64-bit, sorry.

Get VBVChecker from the DGDecNV page. I'll fix the other link.