x264 VFW and Sony Vegas Questions.

[Phero]

So just after reading the "Getting the latest x264" I have a few questions that I'm hoping someone would answer.

1. Why is x264 VFW no longer officially supported?

2. Why does the thread state: "IF YOU HAVE A x264 VERSION THAT COMES WITH AN UNINSTALLER, PLEASE UNINSTALL THAT VERSION"?

3. Are there any x264 versions you would recommend to use with Sony Vegas Pro 10?

[Keiyakusha]

0. Change the title of this thread to something meaningful before you'll be punished by moderators :P
1. because it is obsolete crap
2. because genuine x264 doesn't need/require to be installed to work.
3. none. If video editing for you is not a toy you play with today but won't play tomorrow, you should know that there is no reason to encode from NLE directly. Save your work as lossless format or lossless image sequence (which is very useful sometimes) and then encode it like it should be.

[Phero]

0. Change the title of this thread to something meaningful before you'll be punished by moderators :P
1. because it is obsolete crap
2. because genuine x264 doesn't need/require to be installed to work.
3. none. If video editing for you is not a toy you play with today but won't play tomorrow, you should know that there is no reason to encode from NLE directly. Save your work as lossless format or lossless image sequence (which is very useful sometimes) and then encode it like it should be.
Alright thanks.

So from your post and looking around would using Sony Vegas to edit then export as a lossless format and then using something like MeGUI with an updated x264 to compress be a good process?

[poisondeathray]

So from your post and looking around would using Sony Vegas to edit then export as a lossless format and then using something like MeGUI with an updated x264 to compress be a good process?

That would work, or debugmode frameserver is another option

[Phero]

That would work, or debugmode frameserver is another option
I have no idea what that is. :confused: Are you talking about this? (http://www.debugmode.com/frameserver/)

[Lyris]

If video editing for you is not a toy you play with today but won't play tomorrow, you should know that there is no reason to encode from NLE directly. Save your work as lossless format or lossless image sequence (which is very useful sometimes) and then encode it like it should be.
A bit harsh, no? I've edited professionally and I'd love to be able to export using x264 direct from the NLE without intermediate files.

Fortunately there's Debugmode Frameserver for that.

[Keiyakusha]

A bit harsh, no?
I don't think so. I don't remember much cases when output from the editor is ready to become a final product after 1st render. No one will re-render things into x264 all the time. Render only some part of the footage that was changed/fixed and incorporate it in existing x264 encode is impossible due to refframes, bframes an stuff. Not to mention that additional processing usually comes after the editor. Not to mention that there may be some need to re-encode stuff but not re-render. So as I said if this question was for at least semi-professional use and the quality (in various senses) of the work should be maintained till the end, then intermediate output is the way to go. But if this is for processing some kind of video where we filmed how our dog plays frisbee, then various encoding ways is possible, including built in encoders.

[Nevilne]

You can use avisynth on frameserved avi.