Good alternatives for Sony Vegas?

[Lincoln Burrows]

That can accept Matroska files?

[poisondeathray]

No commercial NLE can accept MKV input directly

Indirectly, you can frameserve in , e.g. avfs, premiere has avs import plugin, avs2avi, vfapi, etc..

[Lincoln Burrows]

No commercial NLE can accept MKV input directly

Indirectly, you can frameserve in , e.g. avfs, premiere has avs import plugin, avs2avi, vfapi, etc..Do you know if there are any guides explaining how can we do that using Sony Vegas?

I am going to waste a lot time converting MKVs to other format, I need to load all of them directly.

[poisondeathray]

Do you know if there are any guides explaining how can we do that using Sony Vegas?


I am going to waste a lot time converting MKVs to other format, I need to load all of them directly.


I don't know of any guides, but look in the AVFS thread

So you might use an avs batch scripter then mount them

Depending on what kind of MKV (what audio & video compression) if you re-wrap it (either .mp4 or .m2ts) , vegas might accept it as well . So you might batch re-wrap with FFmpeg

[Lincoln Burrows]

I don't know of any guides, but look in the AVFS thread

So you might use an avs batch scripter then mount them

Depending on what kind of MKV (what audio & video compression) if you re-wrap it (either .mp4 or .m2ts) , vegas might accept it as well . So you might batch re-wrap with FFmpegThanks, I will look into it. However, what I am trying to do here is a bit complicated. I need to merge all kinds of videos, using all kinds of codecs/containers in the timeline, adding a fade-in/fade-out special effect before/after each one of them. It will be a compilation.

If I have to convert all Matroska files, it would take forever to do what I just told you above. And the final quality would be even worse.

[poisondeathray]

Thanks, I will look into it. However, what I am trying to do here is a bit complicated. I need to merge all kinds of videos, using all kinds of codecs/containers in the timeline, adding a fade-in/fade-out special effect before/after each one of them. It will be a compilation.

If I have to convert all Matroska files, it would take forever to do what I just told you above. And the final quality would be even worse.

Frameserving - no quality loss if you stay in the same colorspace. It just serves uncompressed video

Rewrapping isn't the same thing as re-encoding. It's very fast, and no quality loss. It's just copying the video & audio into a new container. Think of it like taking the video out of a old box and putting it into a new box.

For example, If I use makemkv on a h.264 blu-ray, the mkv won't be accepted by vegas, but if you use tsmuxer on that mkv (just re-wrapping, takes a couple minutes, not hours or days), the .m2ts will be accepted. But some formats like WVC1 blu-rays won't be accepted by vegas .

If your mkv's have crazy settings like 16b frames, 16 reference frames , that sort of thing, vegas won't accept them re-wrapped either

[Lincoln Burrows]

I think I did something like this before, but using Virtual Dub. But if I have to do it again and for each file (with no guarantees it would work or that I am not going to waste a lot of time trying to figure out how to do this again), it's better for me to select all videos and use another software to reencode them in a good quality. I was hoping to just select all kinds of videos in Sony Vegas/another program and then render as something else, but apparently that is beyond their capabilities.

[poisondeathray]

I think I did something like this before, but using Virtual Dub. But if I have to do it again and for each file (with no guarantees it would work or that I am not going to waste a lot of time trying to figure out how to do this again), it's better for me to select all videos and use another software to reencode them in a good quality. I was hoping to just select all kinds of videos in Sony Vegas/another program and then render as something else, but apparently that is beyond their capabilities.


I agree this is what I would do , if I had dozens of different formats and compressions

I would batch encode to something like UT Video Codec, or Huffyuv which are lossless and work well in vegas

If you don't need lossless, or don't have the HDD space, maybe something like x264 with low CRF, using fast settings, I-frame only

[Mounir]

You can load avisynth scripts in Vegas thus ...mkv's if you use ffdshow dxva maybe otherwise you'll have to demux first

[JoeH]

Lincoln Burrows, here is a thread that discusses and explains in detail two different methods for using AVS scripts inside of Vegas. I do it all the time and it works great. http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=162006

Also, check out the guide I just posted in this forum. I think you'll like it.