Graphic card installation

[unrox]

I am trying to install a new graphics card, an MSI 5770 Hawk into my Asus Essentio Cm 5675, i5Core, 8G 1T Hd, Windows 7 Home Premium. I was under the assumption it was plug & play. I installed it, added the Vga adapter and am getting no signal to my monitor. Ther is a power supply component that came with the unit, but as per some of the install videos I watched, it is for older models, and there are no slots for it. Am I missing a step? Any help greatly appreciated.
Jim Durkin

[LoRd_MuldeR]

Ther is a power supply component that came with the unit, but as per some of the install videos I watched, it is for older models, and there are no slots for it.

Not quite sure what you mean. But if your graphics card has an (internal) power connector, you need to connect it to your PSU!

Modern graphics cards, except for some low-end models, usually have one 6-Pin or 8-Pin PEG power connector. Some high end models even have two of these!

If your PSU doesn't have dedicated 6-/8-Pin PEG power connectors, you need to use an "Molex to PEG" adapter cable. Or a new/better PSU ;)

http://bigbytepc.net/images/molexpcie.jpg

[unrox]

Not quite sure what you mean. But if your graphics card has an (internal) power connector, you need to connect it to your PSU!

Modern graphics cards, except for some low-end models, usually have one 6-Pin or 8-Pin PEG power connector. Some high end models even have two of these!

If your PSU doesn't have dedicated 6-/8-Pin PEG power connectors, you need to use an "Molex to PEG" adapter cable. Or a new/better PSU ;)

http://bigbytepc.net/images/molexpcie.jpg LM thanks a lot for the reply, I have never installed a graphics card so I am in new territory. The only thing I see that looks like a power supply plug is for the one you have shown, but there is nowhere to connect it, from the video I saw on u-tube for this card it was plug and play and that power supply hook up was for older models. Perhaps I mistook the video?

[LoRd_MuldeR]

Well, if your graphics card indeed does have a 6-Pin or 8-Pin PCIe/PEG power connector (http://www.rage3d.com/reviews/video/pny7900gs/pics/pegpower.jpg), then you must connect that one to your computer's PSU (Power Supply Unit (http://images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2010/02/600-700w-psu-review-round-up/generic.jpg)).

There should be a cable coming from your PSU which has a suitable PEG power plug (http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/pcie6plus2.jpg) at its end. If so, then you can connect that cable straight to your graphics card's power connector.

If your PSU does not have the required plug, then you need an adapter - like the one shown on the picture above. It turns two Molex connectors (http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/peripheralpic.jpg) into an PEG power connector.

But make sure that your PSU has enough power for the graphics card! If your PSU is too weak, then you need a stronger one. A new PSU will also have the PEG power plugs for sure.

See also:
http://forum.videohelp.com/images/guides/p1744711/17-171-013-06.jpg



The reviews I find for the Asus Essentio Cm 5675 show it has a barely-adequate power supply for its stock configuration.

This would indicate that indeed a new PSU will be required.

[CWR03]

The reviews I find for the Asus Essentio Cm 5675 show it has a barely-adequate power supply for its stock configuration.

[Ghitulescu]

Perhaps I mistook the video?

Perhaps if you put a picture of your card?

[hello_hello]

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/HD_5770_HAWK/4.html

The power connector is the black 6 pin plug.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/HD_5770_HAWK/images/power.jpg

If the specs here are correct, and your PC only has a 300w PSU, you might want to consider upgrading it.
http://usa.asus.com/Desktop/Entertainment/Essentio_CM5675/#specifications

According to the review here the video card isn't overly power hungry, so you might get away with the PSU you have, depending on how much power the rest of the PC consumes.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/HD_5770_HAWK/28.html

This review recommends using a 450w PSU with the card, if you have a high end PC. I didn't read enough of the review to determine what constitutes a "high end PC" though.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-r5770-hawk-review/7

[Ghitulescu]

The reason for asking for a photo was that MSI is one of the companies that like to change the designs of their products, sometimes completely different architectures being grouped together under a common reference, whose only the last digit/character changes. This is also due to various requirements from their customers, for which MSI acts as an OEM.
Exclusive 7+1-Phase Power Architecture Keeps the Graphic Card Powered when Overclocked
Compared to the 4+1-phase power supply on the reference card, the R5770 Hawk graphics card with its 7+1-phase design provides more power to the GPU and memory to achieve overclocking up to 20%.
That's from their product presentation, however 5770 Hawk has a designed of only 4+1 (simply because its power supply regulator has only three phases, and only 8 coils are present onboard).

[unrox]

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/HD_5770_HAWK/4.html

The power connector is the black 6 pin plug.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/HD_5770_HAWK/images/power.jpg

If the specs here are correct, and your PC only has a 300w PSU, you might want to consider upgrading it.
http://usa.asus.com/Desktop/Entertainment/Essentio_CM5675/#specifications

According to the review here the video card isn't overly power hungry, so you might get away with the PSU you have, depending on how much power the rest of the PC consumes.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/HD_5770_HAWK/28.html

This review recommends using a 450w PSU with the card, if you have a high end PC. I didn't read enough of the review to determine what constitutes a "high end PC" though.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-r5770-hawk-review/7
Thanks very much for the pic, yes I have that connection on the card, but the plugins are two heads similar to a IDE dvd power supply wire, have not seen anywhere to make a connection.

[LoRd_MuldeR]

Read this again:
http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1531533&postcount=4

(If your PSU has no PEG connector, you either need a new PSU or an adapter. Given CWR03's comment, you will probably have to go with the latter)

[Ghitulescu]

Thanks very much for the pic, yes I have that connection on the card, but the plugins are two heads similar to a IDE dvd power supply wire, have not seen anywhere to make a connection.

You need to use them as it were DVD drives :)

[unrox]

You need to use them as it were DVD drives :)

Thanks for the reply, but I have looked everywhere inside the computer and there are no connections for these plugs.

[unrox]

I've no idea what Ghitulescu was trying to say. You need one of the adaptors LoRd_MuldeR mentioned. Or a new PSU.
Thanks, I have ordered a new power supply, seems to be the problem. Thanks for all the info, great board!

[Ghitulescu]

Thanks for the reply, but I have looked everywhere inside the computer and there are no connections for these plugs.

The plugs are to be inserted into the rails for drives, preferably on separate rails, like there would be drives. The other end should fit the graphic card.

[Ghitulescu]

For example?
I was careful to post a picture from a review of the video card who's last digit/character was the same.

Either the marketing dept has no idea what the eng dept designed, or they tried to fool people in buying something they never did, or simply they have two designs for the same MSI Radeon 5770 Hawk, probably identified as 5770A1B1 and 5770A1B2 (imaginary product codes to exemplify what the last digit/character does actually mean). These model type qualifiers are usually printed on the retail box and on the printed board.

[LoRd_MuldeR]

Thanks for the reply, but I have looked everywhere inside the computer and there are no connections for these plugs.

It probably means that your current PSU has already reached its limits. You could have used a Y-cable (http://www.lockergnome.com/marcerickson/files/2009/11/molex-y-cables.jpg) to get more plugs, but that might have overstressed the PSU :scared:

So I think you did right be ordering a new one. And I hope you ordered a model that has PCIe/PEG power plugs (http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/pcie6plus2.jpg) (preferably 6+2 Pins) built-in!

[Hiritsuki]

Usually use original PEG 6pin from psu is well.