How to use BD-RB to swap out existing audio with new audio?

[thegame]

Hi Everyone,
I have a question on a Blu-ray title I just got last week, it is the Hong Kong version of Conan The Barbarian, I bought this version because it has more extras than the US version and because it is a longer version, the Universal US version is missing a scene, but anyways to my question, not sure if anyone here is aware or not but there are some pretty noticeable audio errors on the new DTS-HD MA 5.1 track(actually it has been there on ALL 5.1 DVD tracks as well) and I actually fixed them(won't get into how LOL) but what I need to know now is how can I do a complete BD50 to BD50 but with swapping out the error audio for my new fixed audio? I see that the movie is in sections, I have never seen this before, I assume it is because depending on where in the world this BD is played it is "censored" for the witch nudity, Horse tripping, etc. so not sure if this will mess things up, or not matter LOL, so what would my steps be, or can this even be done with BD-RB?

In short, all I want to do is rip to hard drive, and extract the retail DTS-HD MA 5.1 and replace with mine, then rebuild keeping everything intact, extras and all, then burn, just not sure how to go about it with BD-RB.

Thanks in advance for any and all help

[setarip_old]

@thegame

Hi!

I just wanted to mention that, oddly perhaps, a detailed review of the Blu-ray version of "Ahnold's" 1982 movie indicates nothing about audio errors (As it surely would, if that were the case) Here's the link:

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/5210/conan_barbarian.html

And here's the quote: The Audio: Rating the Sound


In the audio department, things only get better with a DTS-HD Master Audio soundtrack that perfectly satisfies expectations. The original monaural design is given new life as it occupies a splendid sense of space and provides the soundstage with a full-bodied presence.

There may not be much in terms of rear activity and effects that whiz from speaker to speaker, but listeners can enjoy imaging that's highly engaging and feels broad for the majority of the movie's runtime. Though not very dynamic or extensive, the mid-range is crystal-clear with flawless differentiation between the frequencies. Fans can enjoy every clashing and clanging of the swords with terrific clarity. The low-end is understandably limited, but it offers just enough oomph and weight to the battle scenes to make the spectacle enjoyable. Dialogue and character interactions are pitch-perfect and excellently intonated, so we can make out every hilarious grunt and bellow during Schwarzenegger's fight scenes.

Best of all, the wickedly awesome music from Basil Poledouris is the real winner in the entire mix. The thunderous, symphonic score fills the entire front soundstage and lends itself wonderfully to back speakers with very subtle bleeds. Each instrument is superbly separated and cleanly delivered, and when mixed with the choir segments, the excitement just builds and immerses the listener. The high-rez track may not compare with contemporary action-packed flicks, but this lossless audio presentation of 'Conan' is simply awe-inspiring and must be listened to at full blast. Perhaps you purchased a flawed disc...

[thegame]

Nope, you need to read more reviews, there are errors on 3 key scenes especially, the choral parts of the score are missing, I get ALL my info from Blu-ray.com, I have both the US release and the HK release and the errors are there plain as day(I have heard them for myself on both versions) anyone very familiar with Basil's score and the original mono track from the DVD's can clearly hear this, Bill Hunt at Digital Bits has already contacted Universal on this and many of us members have also emailed them, it is there, but anyways, this is not the question, can what I want to do be done with BD-RB? and if so, does anyone know how I would go about doing this?

Thanks again

*edit, not to go into this anymore but I can't find the digital bits link now, but if you think you are right, then listen to the long out of print Varese Sarabande CD, these scores in particular,
Track 2 - Riddle Of Steel\Riders Of Doom
Track 11 - Recovery
Track 14 - Battle Of The Mounds
then listen to the original mono on the Collector's Edition DVD in these scenes, it will match those tracks on the CD, then listen to those scenes on the new Blu-ray, you will see\hear that the choral parts are gone.

[setarip_old]

I only provided you with someone else's review. I don't own the disc...

[jdobbs]

In order to replace a track, all you have to do is:

1. Set the target value to some large value (to prevent reencoding).
2. Make sure the settings indicate keeping the original audio.
3. Run BD-RB and let it complete.
4. Swap out the DTS track with the new one in the WORKFILES folder.
5. Run BD-RB again and tell it to continue -- it will rebuild with the new track.

Using this method, the track must be replaced with another that uses the SAME FORMAT (DTS, DTS-MA, AC3, etc).

[thegame]

In order to replace a track, all you have to do is:

1. Set the target value to some large value (to prevent reencoding).
2. Make sure the settings indicate keeping the original audio.
3. Run BD-RB and let it complete.
4. Swap out the DTS track with the new one in the WORKFILES folder.
5. Run BD-RB again and tell it to continue -- it will rebuild with the new track.

Using this method, the track must be replaced with another that uses the SAME FORMAT (DTS, DTS-MA, AC3, etc).

Thank you so much, now when you say let it complete, I should go ahead and let it rebuild the new BD(which is actually like cloning itself LOL) and then delete the rebuilt BD and then replace the audio track in the WORKFILES folder with exact same name and extension, and rebuild again? if so I will give it a shot.

Thanks again

ps. what is the maximum size I could put in the custom size for a BD50? 1 other thing I found strange, have any of you ever seen a DTS-HD MA file with the .dts extension? I thought that all DTS-HD MA files had .dtshd for an extension, but the Conan audio demuxed from the BD is DTS-HD MA but with a file extension of .dts, is this normal?

[jdobbs]

Thank you so much, now when you say let it complete, I should go ahead and let it rebuild the new BD(which is actually like cloning itself LOL) and then delete the rebuilt BD and then replace the audio track in the WORKFILES folder with exact same name and extension, and rebuild again? if so I will give it a shot.

Thanks again

ps. what is the maximum size I could put in the custom size for a BD50? 1 other thing I found strange, have any of you ever seen a DTS-HD MA file with the .dts extension? I thought that all DTS-HD MA files had .dtshd for an extension, but the Conan audio demuxed from the BD is DTS-HD MA but with a file extension of .dts, is this normal? It's just easier to let it complete the first time -- since the rebuild typically only adds about 20 minutes. But if you were in a hurry you could stop the job when rebuild starts, replace the file, and then continue.

I'd set the max size at 50000 (~50GB), since there are no discs bigger than that... but the variable used in the software could theoretically hold a value measured in trillions.

Yes, DTS HD streams can also have a .DTS extension.

[thegame]

It's just easier to let it complete the first time -- since the rebuild typically only adds about 20 minutes. But if you were in a hurry you could stop the job when rebuild starts, replace the file, and then continue.

I'd set the max size at 50000 (~50GB), since there are no discs bigger than that... but the variable used in the software could theoretically hold a value measured in trillions.

Yes, DTS HD streams can also have a .DTS extension.

Thank you again jdobbs, you are a tremendous help, and your software is the greatest, now to just finish tweaking and fixing the audio and get it encoded to test this out.

[thegame]

OK I have a new question LOL, is there any way I can swap out an audio track and replace it with a DTS-HD MA track and keep the original BD structure, menu's and all? there has to be something I can modify or edit to do this, I tried just swapping it out but that does not work, so I am sure I have to edit something somewhere, I was able to swap out the video file, but then my chapters would not line up, so I made a movie only BD with my new video and swapped out the .mpls files also and that fixed my chapter issue, I just LOVE this software(BD-RB) it is pretty powerful in what it lets you do.

I should probably explain what it is I am trying to do, so here goes, I bought the Forgotten Films version of Night of The Living Dead(this version has GREAT looking video) it has a basic menu, and a slideshow for extras, and only DD 2.0 @ 640 audio, but this version is missing like 30 secs. of video, so I replaced the missing section of video and would really like to replace the DD audio but just can't figure out a way to do it, but if I can't I guess it is no big deal, because I extracted the wavs from the DTS-HD MA 2.0 and encoded a new DD 2.0 @ 640 like the file on the BD and all went well, everything plays and works exactly like the retail version I bought, but now has the fixed scene back in, just really would like to add the better audio if possible.

Thanks a lot for all the help.

[Capsbackup]

Using this method, the track must be replaced with another that uses the SAME FORMAT (DTS, DTS-MA, AC3, etc).

Unfortunately, since your original does not contain the same format audio that you want to replace it with... :(
You could use tsMuxeR to remux your desired video/audio/subs. Then, if you have some experience with BDEdit, you could substitute this newly created .m2ts for the original. :)

[thegame]

Unfortunately, since your original does not contain the same format audio that you want to replace it with... :(
You could use tsMuxeR to remux your desired video/audio/subs. Then, if you have some experience with BDEdit, you could substitute this newly created .m2ts for the original. :)

Thanks, I have never used BDEdit before, I was hoping there was something I could just modify or edit LOL, I guess it couldn't be that simple LOL, I will see if I can find tutorials on BDEdit.