Updating Encryption Keys

[bikerdave001]

I've been going through some threads while waiting to post and I am curious to know how the new Blu-Rays get de-encrypted without having to log on to your site? I've had some familiarity with other programs that require internet access to provide those keys so curious to know how you product handles that.

Thanks!
Dave

[RobertM]

BD-Rebuilder doesn't do any decryption. At all.

[HWK]

I am not 100 percent sure about nature of your question. But if you are talking blu-ray decryption and bd-rebuilder then answer is bd-rebuilder doesn't process encrypted bd disc. It must be decrypted by third party tool before bd-rebuilder can make use of it. Various options and tool exist to decrypt disc.

[bikerdave001]

I guess I am not understanding this process then. Those other programs I mention say I need to remain connected to the internet e.g. DVDFab to make sure the Blu-Ray's encryptions and Cinavia (watermark) are in their database and removed so the Copy can be made. Nothing is being ripped here but I can see something is not clicking for me. Can someone who is familiar with this chime in and explain this to me? Much thanks!

[bikerdave001]

I think the lightbulb went on for me after some thought on cinavia. I was confusing encryption with protection. Those programs remove the protection part of the disc so it can be copied. It was a mixing of concepts and terminology!

So now I get the real question: How does BD Rebuilder handle the latest blu-rays protection scheme without connecting to the internet?

[thegame]

I think the lightbulb went on for me after some thought on cinavia. I was confusing encryption with protection. Those programs remove the protection part of the disc so it can be copied. It was a mixing of concepts and terminology!

So now I get the real question: How does BD Rebuilder handle the latest blu-rays protection scheme without connecting to the internet?

That question was already answered above, BD-RB does NO decrypting at all, read the post by HWK, I believe the third response.

[bikerdave001]

I'll get this right sooner or later! :-)

By "protection" I do not mean de-crypting. I mean, for example, DVDFab needs to use the internet at the time of reading the disc to remove the BD+ protection so it can read and copy the Blu-Ray disk in either Movie only mode or Full Disk Copy mode.

New question: How does BD-RB handle the BD+ protection before it can copy the disc?

[RobertM]

Once again, it doesn't.

Here's how it works:
0. You purchase a BluRay disc.
1. You put the BluRay disc in your drive.
2. You start up a decryption program (DVDFab, AnyDVDHD, etc.).
3. THAT program, if it works properly, removes any protections that the disc might have.
4. You can now copy the disc contents to HDD (rip).
5. Run BD-Rebuilder to create a modified (smaller, usually) copy of the unprotected HDD disc files.

[bikerdave001]

Once again, it doesn't.

Here's how it works:
0. You purchase a BluRay disc.
1. You put the BluRay disc in your drive.
2. You start up a decryption program (DVDFab, AnyDVDHD, etc.).
3. THAT program, if it works properly, removes any protections that the disc might have.
4. You can now copy the disc contents to HDD (rip).
5. Run BD-Rebuilder to create a modified (smaller, usually) copy of the unprotected HDD disc files.

No, not correct. My "Black Swan" blu-ray went from your step 1 right to step 5 to completion without your steps 2-4. I also popped in a few other discs that started the same process and then I stopped them. Someone out there has the correct explanation.

[Stormcrow]

No, not correct. My "Black Swan" blu-ray went from your step 1 right to step 5 to completion without your steps 2-4. I also popped in a few other discs that started the same process and then I stopped them. Someone out there has the correct explanation.

Once again, BR rebuilder does NO DECRYPTING or BD+ fixups, or any other protection removal.
It only works on un-protected sources.

That's why you need a 3-rd party decrypter tool like AnyDVD-HD. Note that AnyDVD runs in the background, doing it's decryption and removal of other protections on-the-fly, so that BD-rebuilder SEES the disk as un-protected, and can process it. Note that it's generally not necessary to rip to HDD first, the original disk appears un-protected after AnyDVD has processed it. However, I usually rip it first so that any read errors on the disk show themselves sooner rather than 90% of the way through a re-encode.

It's AnyDVD-HD ( or whatever other decrypter you use ) that needs to keep it's keys and BD+ fixups up-to-date. So AnyDVD may need to connect to the Internet from time to time.

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SC

[bikerdave001]

Once again, BR rebuilder does NO DECRYPTING or BD+ fixups, or any other protection removal.
It only works on un-protected sources.

That's why you need a 3-rd party decrypter tool like AnyDVD-HD. Note that AnyDVD runs in the background, doing it's decryption and removal of other protections on-the-fly, so that BD-rebuilder SEES the disk as un-protected, and can process it. Note that it's generally not necessary to rip to HDD first, the original disk appears un-protected after AnyDVD has processed it. However, I usually rip it first so that any read errors on the disk show themselves sooner rather than 90% of the way through a re-encode.

It's AnyDVD-HD ( or whatever other decrypter you use ) that needs to keep it's keys and BD+ fixups up-to-date. So AnyDVD may need to connect to the Internet from time to time.

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SC

This is not correct, again! Here is the breakdown of the Black Swan Blu-Ray disc that BD-RB handled just fine ON ITS OWN. Someone will eventually answer my question correctly.

Total size: 20802080 sectors (40629 MBytes)
Video Blu-ray label: BLACK_SWAN
Media is AACS protected!
Media is BD+ protected!
AACS MKB version 19
Using BDPHash.bin 11-03-30
Removed AACS copy protection!
Removed BD+ copy protection!
Note: automatic detection of region code not possible with this disc.
Blu-ray disc Region set to A!
Possible Blu-ray Java region lock removed!
Blu-ray Java signatures fixed!
BD-Live deactivated!
Java BD+ runtime removed!
Removed UOPs!

[Ch3vr0n]

This is not correct, again!

Total size: 20802080 sectors (40629 MBytes)
Video Blu-ray label: BLACK_SWAN
Media is AACS protected!
Media is BD+ protected!
AACS MKB version 19
Using BDPHash.bin 11-03-30
Removed AACS copy protection!
Removed BD+ copy protection!
Note: automatic detection of region code not possible with this disc.
Blu-ray disc Region set to A!
Possible Blu-ray Java region lock removed!
Blu-ray Java signatures fixed!
BD-Live deactivated!
Java BD+ runtime removed!
Removed UOPs!


Dude YOU are wrong

That part is the logfile as shown in AnyDVD HD. Its anydvd HD that removes the encryption and enables BDRB to preocess the disc. Double click on the fox tray icon and go to the tab for your blu-ray drive. There you will see that EXACT information.

Don't believe me? Shutdown Anydvd and see if BDRB will process the disc, i guarantee you it won't

[RobertM]

Don't believe me? Shutdown Anydvd and see if BDRB will process the disc, i guarantee you it won't

Unless, of course, the original BD disc isn't protected in the first place. Could be a disc that has already been re-built, or a home-made movie, etc. But for the purposes of commercial BD movies, as far as I know they are ALL protected.

Anyway, BikerDave, lots of us have been telling you the same thing, over and over again. If you are not going to accept the truth then there is not much more that we can do for you. As Ch3vr0n said, those messages that you are presenting as your proof are NOT messages from BD-Rebuilder.

[bikerdave001]

Dude YOU are wrong

That part is the logfile as shown in AnyDVD HD. Its anydvd HD that removes the encryption and enables BDRB to preocess the disc. Double click on the fox tray icon and go to the tab for your blu-ray drive. There you will see that EXACT information.

Don't believe me? Shutdown Anydvd and see if BDRB will process the disc, i guarantee you it won't

Dude...chill. If this is the typical chilly response I get from this site asking a clear honest question I am out of here.

This log was from the internet to show you it has BD+!!! Understand now? I ONLY used BD-RB to generate the Blu-ray folders. How much clearer can I make this? OK here is another way: I used ONLY the programs the author used on page 1 of his install procedure with BD-RB.

[jdobbs]

BD Rebuilder does absolutely nothing, repeat, nothing, that might circumvent any protection, encryption, or any other mechanism the alters discs to prevent copying. I want to make that perfectly clear. If you choose to circumvent those things -- (specifically to back up items that you have legitimately purchased using third party deencrypting drivers) -- the decrypting and/or anti-protection work is done completely by other software (such as AnyDVD, which IMHO is by far the best).

If BD-RB handled a disc on-it's-own, as you claim, then the original was not encrypted or protected. Having written every line of code in the software (with the exception of the helper apps and X264, of course) I can say that with the ultimate authority.

[bikerdave001]

Unless, of course, the original BD disc isn't protected in the first place. Could be a disc that has already been re-built, or a home-made movie, etc. But for the purposes of commercial BD movies, as far as I know they are ALL protected.

Anyway, BikerDave, lots of us have been telling you the same thing, over and over again. If you are not going to accept the truth then there is not much more that we can do for you. As Ch3vr0n said, those messages that you are presenting as your proof are NOT messages from BD-Rebuilder.

WOW! I usually like a debate but everyone so far isn't getting what I am saying.

The log that I received from the internet proves/shows the commercial disc is BD+ protected and in my case BD-RB did the complete process all by itself! Don't agree with me? Rent the same disc from Netflix and try it yourself. The test with BD-RB proves clearly that it works.

I just want to know how it works since BD-RB doesn't connect to the internet. Get it?

[jdobbs]

I have to give you credit -- you don't five up easily. There is a point, however, where persistence can be confused for obstinance.

Since I WROTE THE SOFTWARE I think I know a little more about it than you do. It doesn't connect to the internet to get decryption updates because it doesn't do decryption (or any other kind of protection avoidance). When a disc is presented to BD Rebuilder it must be protection-free.

[bikerdave001]

BD Rebuilder does absolutely nothing, repeat, nothing, that might circumvent any protection, encryption, or any other mechanism the alters discs to prevent copying. I want to make that perfectly clear. If you choose to circumvent those things -- (specifically to back up items that you have legitimately purchased using third party deencrypting drivers) -- the decrypting and/or anti-protection work is done completely by other software (such as AnyDVD, which IMHO is by far the best).

If BD-RB handled a disc on-it's-own, as you claim, then the original was not encrypted or protected. Having written every line of code in the software (with the exception of the helper apps and X264, of course) I can say that with the ultimate authority.

I completely understand what you and the others say. I guess it doesn't make sense why it works.

So how is BD-RB doing the Full Copy then? Good question. That is what I am trying to understand myself since I did not have any other software running to do it beforehand. I popped in the commercial Blu-Ray disc and ran it from beginning to end only using your software. And I have done that with several discs now as well.

What message would I or should I get if your program sees something protected or encrypted?

I will try this same test with my Avatar disc as I know that is BD+ protected probably more so than most Blu-Rays I have.

[jdobbs]

Based on your quoted log I have to believe you have AnyDVD HD installed on your system. Sometimes it can confuse you because it works in the background (as a device driver, I believe). In other words, while it is running, you can point BD-RB directly to the disc and read it, and AnyDVD invisibly intervenes and decrypts on-the-fly during the read process.

[bikerdave001]

Based on your quoted log I have to believe you have AnyDVD HD installed on your system. Sometimes it can confuse you because it works in the background (as a device driver, I believe). In other words, while it is running, you can point BD-RB directly to the disc and read it, and AnyDVD invisibly intervenes and decrypts on-the-fly during the read process.

I've heard about that software but never installed it. I just googled for the info (Black Swan and BD+) and pasted the log in this thread. Here is the source of the log:

http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=47721

[setarip_old]

@bikerdave001

Hi! I used ONLY the programs the author used on page 1 of his install procedure with BD-RB.If, in fact, your source material is a COMMERCIAL Blu-ray disc of "Black Swan", and you did NOT pre-process and copy the disc with MakeMKV, DVDFab, DumpHD, or AnyDVDHD to remove all protections, then you have either DVDFab Passkey or AnyDVDHD running in the background.

Please post the BD Rebuilder log from your "Black Swan" backup.

BTW - I own the "Black Swan" Blu-ray disc - and it certainly CANNOT be processed directly by BD Rebuilder without using some other program to circumvent and/or eliminate any and all protections...

[bikerdave001]

@bikerdave001

Hi! If, in fact, your source material is a COMMERCIAL Blu-ray disc of "Black Swan", and you did NOT pre-process and copy the disc with MakeMKV, DVDFab, DumpHD, or AnyDVDHD to remove all protections, then you have either DVDFab Passkey or AnyDVDHD running in the background.

Please post the BD Rebuilder log from your "Black Swan" backup.

BTW - I own the "Black Swan" Blu-ray disc - and it certainly CANNOT be processed directly by BD Rebuilder without using some other program to circumvent and/or eliminate any and all protections...

You are wrong abut the first paragraph. Never had these programs installed when I used BD-RB. If I did then I would surmise the driver comment from the author earlier on and I would tell you that it was that. I have nothing to gain (or lose) otherwise.

I will post the log once I am in front of the computer I used for the copy process. It should make interesting reading and perhaps it will shed light on how it is working apparently incorrectly. I am sure someone will get to the bottom of this quagmire.

[setarip_old]

I will post the log once I am in front of the computer I used for the copy process.Are you, very wisely, just making sure there will be no other possible outside factors involved, or does this computer setup include some modified or unusual hardware or firmware?

[ggtop]

You never heard about AnyDVD or any other decrypter before but the only question you have when using BD Rebuilder is how it circumcents the encryption...

???

[HWK]

No, not correct. My "Black Swan" blu-ray went from your step 1 right to step 5 to completion without your steps 2-4. I also popped in a few other discs that started the same process and then I stopped them. Someone out there has the correct explanation.

Only time this method will work if you have decrypted image or iso on harddrive to begin with if not it will NEVER work. Also as per Blu-ray specs every single commercial disc must be protected by AACS.

[HWK]

Never had these programs installed when I used BD-RB. If I did then I would surmise the driver comment from the author earlier on and I would tell you that it was that. I have nothing to gain (or lose) otherwise.

I will post the log once I am in front of the computer I used for the copy process. It should make interesting reading and perhaps it will shed light on how it is working apparently incorrectly. I am sure someone will get to the bottom of this quagmire.

Maybe someone else install the program and you didn't know about it.

[JJB]

You are wrong abut the first paragraph. Never had these programs installed when I used BD-RB. If I did then I would surmise the driver comment from the author earlier on and I would tell you that it was that. I have nothing to gain (or lose) otherwise.

I will post the log once I am in front of the computer I used for the copy process. It should make interesting reading and perhaps it will shed light on how it is working apparently incorrectly. I am sure someone will get to the bottom of this quagmire.

I suggest that you go to add or remove programs under settings and look for ANYDVD or DVDFAB and uninstall these items.

THEN try to process a commercial Blu-Ray or DVD.

I think not...:rolleyes:

[bikerdave001]

Are you, very wisely, just making sure there will be no other possible outside factors involved, or does this computer setup include some modified or unusual hardware or firmware?

My computer is a stock i5 Win7 64-bit with 4gb RAM. While I am a techie guy it is not tweaked in any way other than the programs installed on it.

I am sure something is triggering the function of removing the protection behind the scenes. I just don't what it is yet.

[bikerdave001]

You never heard about AnyDVD or any other decrypter before but the only question you have when using BD Rebuilder is how it circumcents the encryption...

???

I've read about AnyDVD but never installed it on any computer. I do not even know what the GUI looks like. Since the "Black Swan" disc I've installed DVDFab as noted earlier on which requires an internet connection for the BD+ stuff.

As far as your ???, I can say that up till after the DVDFab installation, I thought I was just copying and not ripping (using protection/deencryption functionality). Now I know better and know it has to be used in copying a disc as well.

[bikerdave001]

Only time this method will work if you have decrypted image or iso on harddrive to begin with if not it will NEVER work. Also as per Blu-ray specs every single commercial disc must be protected by AACS.

Seems plausible but at the time I just put in the disc and let BD-RB do its thing direct. Sounds impossible I know so we'll see what the log says.

[bikerdave001]

Maybe someone else install the program and you didn't know about it.

Not possible. My wife is computer phobic and my cat...well not a chance either!

[bikerdave001]

I suggest that you go to add or remove programs under settings and look for ANYDVD or DVDFAB and uninstall these items.

THEN try to process a commercial Blu-Ray or DVD.

I think not...:rolleyes:

I am still waiting to find out what will happen in this scenario with errors or messages. Anyone care to respond?

I use Revo Uninstaller at Registry and at hd level so my removals are clean. I will try this Sunday.

[HWK]

Make sure you use original disc not iso image.

[bikerdave001]

Make sure you use original disc not iso image.

Right original purchased commercial disc got it

[jdobbs]

I've heard about that software but never installed it. I just googled for the info (Black Swan and BD+) and pasted the log in this thread. Here is the source of the log:

http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=47721 I was giving you the benefit of the doubt -- but now I have to assume you are just dense. Apparently they have "magic" where you live.

I'm done with this discussion. It's a waste of everone's time.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbsI'm done with this discussion. It's a waste of everyone's time.

+1, as the kids say ;>}

[bikerdave001]

Here is the log...directly from the Blu-Ray disc:

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[12:05:38] BD Rebuilder v0.38.04 (beta)
- Source: BLACK_SWAN
- Input BD size: 39.67 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:51:22.608]
- Target BD size: 48.83 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[12:05:38] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:05:38] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00267]
- [12:05:52] Reencoding: VID_00267 (1 of 25)
- [12:05:52] Collecting video information
- [12:05:52] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:05:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:05:52] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:05:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00250]
- [12:06:07] Reencoding: VID_00250 (2 of 25)
- [12:06:07] Collecting video information
- [12:06:07] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:06:07] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:06:07] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:06:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00253]
- [12:06:25] Reencoding: VID_00253 (3 of 25)
- [12:06:25] Collecting video information
- [12:06:25] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:06:25] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:06:25] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:06:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00278]
- [12:06:46] Reencoding: VID_00278 (4 of 25)
- [12:06:47] Collecting video information
- [12:06:47] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:06:47] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:06:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:06:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00274]
- [12:07:16] Reencoding: VID_00274 (5 of 25)
- [12:07:16] Collecting video information
- [12:07:16] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:07:16] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:07:16] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:07:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00279]
- [12:07:48] Reencoding: VID_00279 (6 of 25)
- [12:07:48] Collecting video information
- [12:07:48] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:07:48] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:07:48] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:07:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00269]
- [12:08:27] Reencoding: VID_00269 (7 of 25)
- [12:08:27] Collecting video information
- [12:08:27] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:08:27] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:08:27] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:08:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00266]
- [12:09:04] Reencoding: VID_00266 (8 of 25)
- [12:09:04] Collecting video information
- [12:09:04] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:09:04] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:09:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:09:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00277]
- [12:09:45] Reencoding: VID_00277 (9 of 25)
- [12:09:45] Collecting video information
- [12:09:45] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:09:45] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:09:45] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:09:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00280]
- [12:10:23] Reencoding: VID_00280 (10 of 25)
- [12:10:24] Collecting video information
- [12:10:24] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:10:24] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:10:24] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:10:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00252]
- [12:11:13] Reencoding: VID_00252 (11 of 25)
- [12:11:13] Collecting video information
- [12:11:13] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:11:13] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:11:13] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:11:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00265]
- [12:11:55] Reencoding: VID_00265 (12 of 25)
- [12:11:55] Collecting video information
- [12:11:55] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:11:55] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:11:55] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:12:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00264]
- [12:12:43] Reencoding: VID_00264 (13 of 25)
- [12:12:43] Collecting video information
- [12:12:43] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:12:43] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:12:43] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:12:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00270]
- [12:13:32] Reencoding: VID_00270 (14 of 25)
- [12:13:32] Collecting video information
- [12:13:32] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:13:32] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:13:32] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:13:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00251]
- [12:14:17] Reencoding: VID_00251 (15 of 25)
- [12:14:17] Collecting video information
- [12:14:17] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:14:17] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:14:17] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:14:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00276]
- [12:15:11] Reencoding: VID_00276 (16 of 25)
- [12:15:11] Collecting video information
- [12:15:11] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:15:11] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:15:11] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:15:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00275]
- [12:16:12] Reencoding: VID_00275 (17 of 25)
- [12:16:12] Collecting video information
- [12:16:12] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:16:12] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:16:12] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:16:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00268]
- [12:17:13] Reencoding: VID_00268 (18 of 25)
- [12:17:13] Collecting video information
- [12:17:13] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:17:13] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:17:13] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:17:29] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00237]
- [12:18:18] Reencoding: VID_00237 (19 of 25)
- [12:18:18] Collecting video information
- [12:18:18] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:18:18] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:18:18] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:18:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00272]
- [12:19:33] Reencoding: VID_00272 (20 of 25)
- [12:19:33] Collecting video information
- [12:19:33] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:19:33] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:19:33] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:19:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00271]
- [12:20:40] Reencoding: VID_00271 (21 of 25)
- [12:20:40] Collecting video information
- [12:20:40] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:20:40] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:20:40] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:20:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00263]
- [12:23:37] Reencoding: VID_00263 (22 of 25)
- [12:23:37] Collecting video information
- [12:23:37] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:23:37] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:23:37] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:24:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00261]
- [12:28:04] Reencoding: VID_00261 (23 of 25)
- [12:28:04] Collecting video information
- [12:28:04] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:28:04] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:28:04] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:29:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00262]
- [12:33:47] Reencoding: VID_00262 (24 of 25)
- [12:33:47] Collecting video information
- [12:33:47] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:33:47] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [12:33:47] Multiplexing M2TS
- [12:35:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00800]
- [13:26:52] Reencoding: VID_00800 (25 of 25)
- [13:26:52] Collecting video information
- [13:26:52] Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [13:26:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [13:26:52] Multiplexing M2TS
[13:48:42]PHASE ONE complete
[13:48:42]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [13:48:42] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[13:56:01] - Encode and Rebuild complete
- WORKFILES folder removed.
[13:56:02]JOB: BLACK_SWAN finished.

[Ch3vr0n]

That doesnt prove anything. As already said by me and half a dozen others. There is NO WAY a commercial disc would not be protected. It's mandatory by the blu-ray standard to protect a disc with AT LEAST the AACS type encryption, then there's the optional BD+ and the now mandatory (but not yet widely used) cinavia protection. Even with just AACS encryption BDRB would FAIL to rebuild because the disc is protected.

Your disc falls under of the following possibilities

1) its an already decrypted bootleg copy you're rebuilding
2) you have a decrypting tool like AnyDVD HD / DVDFab Passkey running (this is the tool that makes the disc look unprotected to BDRB. I repeat BDRB does not decrypt any disc nor can it process a protected disc

Anyways, i'm done with this too

[Guest]

@jdobbs

+1, as the kids say ;>} I'm no kid, but also +1.

[RobertM]

I'm not quite ready to give up on BikerDave yet. He'll get it...

Dave,

Just assume for the sake of argument that BD discs are protected, and you cannot copy them without some decryption program. Seems reasonable, and makes sense. There may be unencrypted commercial BD discs out there, but they are surely rare, and I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of forum members here (including myself) couldn't name one. Certainly not any BD discs from a major movie studio. So let's just agree that whatever BD disc you are trying to copy is encrypted.

So if a disc is encrypted then some decryption method must be provided for ANY copying (ripping or reprocessing) to take place.

Now assume for the sake of argument that BD-Rebuilder includes no such decryption method. I've told you this, lots of other people have told you this, and the author of BD-Rebuilder himself, JDobbs, has told you this. It is quite reasonable to assume that JDobbs knows what he's talking about in this respect. Surely you can trust the programmer to know what he's included in the program (adding decryption to the program would not be a trivial thing, to say the least). And everyone else is saying the same thing; we all have been using BD-Rebuilder for some time, we know how it works, and we know what accompanying programs are needed. But you keep telling us all that we are wrong about this, and we KNOW that we are certainly NOT wrong. Soon enough you'll know what we are talking about, and you'll agree with us, so, instead of telling us again how wrong we are, try re-reading all of the responses, peruse them (that means read them in detail), and try to make sense out of what we are all saying.

So if we can agree that decryption is required, and BD-Rebuilder provides none, then something ELSE must be decrypting the disc. The most obvious reason has already been proposed; a decryption program has already been loaded on your computer, by someone at some time, and it is working in the background to decrypt the disc for you without your knowledge. Try this: insert a BD disc into your BD drive and see what happens. Does a message pop-up telling you to wait while thet disc is decrypted? BD-Rebuilder doesn't have any mechanism to provide such a message. It doesn't respond in any way when you insert a disc. But AnyDVD-HD certainly WILL display a "wait" message. Depending on the disc, you may also have to accept a "region unlocking" message before the decryption can complete -- again, this message is NOT from BD-Rebuilder. And AnyDVD-HD will load automatically, by default, every time you boot your computer. You don't have to start it yourself.

One way that you could help resolve this issue is if you provide a listing of all processes that are running on your computer. Go to TaskManager and click on the "processes" tab. Give us a screen shot of that window, or just type out the names of all processes that are running. With that info we should be able to see what is going on.

Regards,
Bob