too small

[khadafy88]

every time i try to fit harry potter order of the phoenix it says target too small to continue is this a common error?

[jdobbs]

every time i try to fit harry potter order of the phoenix it says target too small to continue is this a common error? If you are keeping multiple HD audio tracks, it can happen. Sometimes the combined size of the HD audio adds up to more than the output target can hold.

If this is your problem, convert the HD audio to AC3. A 640Kbs AC3 stream is indistinguishable from the original in double-blind tests. There's really no such thing as "HD" audio -- it is nothing but marketing hype.

[khadafy88]

I tried what you said and still getting the too small error box Im starting to think harry potter doesnt like me i dont want to give my son the original

[Ch3vr0n]

i had a hard time backing that one up myself but i did manage to do it. First i put the original in a software player (like PowerDVD) and identified wich audio streams i wanted to keep. Those were 1, 2, 8 & 13 (first 2 were english, 8 & 13 were dutch & belgian). Then i simply loaded the disc into BDRB and disabled all audio streams except for the ones labelled AUD_001, AUD_002, AUD_008 & AUD_013. Could backup. Try it like this too

[khadafy88]

I give up i have been trying for days using all the options its just a no go for me

[jdobbs]

I give up i have been trying for days using all the options its just a no go for me I know it works, I just did that disc a couple of weeks ago.

[RobertM]

I give up i have been trying for days using all the options its just a no go for me

Khadaffy,

You've never said what target size you have selected. Is it a BD-5? BD-9?

Also, you could post your log and info files, so that people can see more clearly what you are trying to do.

Regards,
Bob

[Rican_pirate]

I noticed this thread is old. But I ran into this same dillema yesterday without any luck.

[17:35:02] BD Rebuilder v0.39.01 (beta)
- Source: RIO_FD
- Input BD size: 39.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:26:45.808]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Target too small. Encode stopped.

Only by selecting BD-9 does it continue ????

[17:09:16] BD Rebuilder v0.39.01 (beta)
- Source: RIO_FD
- Input BD size: 39.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:26:45.808]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Target too small. Encode stopped.
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[17:11:47] BD Rebuilder v0.39.01 (beta)
- Source: RIO_FD
- Input BD size: 39.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:26:45.808]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[17:11:47] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:11:47] Processing: VID_00011 (1 of 91)
- [17:11:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
[17:11:53]PHASE ONE aborted by user request

Please help !

[Ch3vr0n]

Try what i did a couple posts up. I played the original in my software player (PDVD in my case) and then righclicked somewhere so i could manually view all audio/subtitle streams in a dropdown list. Then i simply looked at the ID each stream had and wrote them on a piece of paper. Then it was a simple matter of loading the ripped blu-ray into BDRB, strip all audio & subs except for the stream ID's i wrote down & hit process. That did the trick for me back then

[jdobbs]

I noticed this thread is old. But I ran into this same dillema yesterday without any luck.

[17:35:02] BD Rebuilder v0.39.01 (beta)
- Source: RIO_FD
- Input BD size: 39.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:26:45.808]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Target too small. Encode stopped.

Only by selecting BD-9 does it continue ????

[17:09:16] BD Rebuilder v0.39.01 (beta)
- Source: RIO_FD
- Input BD size: 39.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:26:45.808]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Target too small. Encode stopped.
-----------------------
[17:11:47] BD Rebuilder v0.39.01 (beta)
- Source: RIO_FD
- Input BD size: 39.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:26:45.808]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[17:11:47] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:11:47] Processing: VID_00011 (1 of 91)
- [17:11:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
[17:11:53]PHASE ONE aborted by user request

Please help ! That means you are keeping too much audio and probably HD audio. When you add the audio streams together, it adds up to so much that there isn't room for the video (even on a BD-25).

When you do BD-9, HD audio is never kept (it isn't allow). I strongly recommend you not keep HD audio or you at least get rid of some of the ones that aren't your native language.

[Rican_pirate]

That means you are keeping too much audio and probably HD audio. When you add the audio streams together, it adds up to so much that there isn't room for the video (even on a BD-25).

When you do BD-9, HD audio is never kept (it isn't allow). I strongly recommend you not keep HD audio or you at least get rid of some of the ones that aren't your native language.

Good argument. I normally try to keep only English HD and Spanish tracks. I looked into manually disabling all audio streams by manually collapsing all VID_*** items on the “Stream” tab. I also disabled the “Keep HD audio along with all other options on “Audio Encoding Options” while playing around with 448 and 128 AC3 encoding option.

[19:04:13] BD Rebuilder v0.39.01 (beta)
- Source: RIO_FD
- Input BD size: 39.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:26:45.808]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Target too small. Encode stopped.
-----------------------
[19:05:14] BD Rebuilder v0.39.01 (beta)
- Source: RIO_FD
- Input BD size: 39.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:26:45.808]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
- Target too small. Encode stopped.
-----------------------
[19:05:37] BD Rebuilder v0.39.01 (beta)
- Source: RIO_FD
- Input BD size: 39.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:26:45.808]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=448
- Target too small. Encode stopped.
-----------------------
[19:05:43] BD Rebuilder v0.39.01 (beta)
- Source: RIO_FD
- Input BD size: 39.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:26:45.808]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=448
- Target too small. Encode stopped.
-----------------------
[19:06:37] BD Rebuilder v0.39.01 (beta)
- Source: RIO_FD
- Input BD size: 39.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:26:45.808]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=448
- Target too small. Encode stopped.
-----------------------
[19:09:29] BD Rebuilder v0.39.01 (beta)
- Source: RIO_FD
- Input BD size: 39.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:26:45.808]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=192
- Target too small. Encode stopped.

[Rican_pirate]

I'd like to add, that when I select "movie only" option the VID item that shows matches with the .mpls info I receive from Bdinfo, and the encoding proceeds beyond the “too small” warning with all audio steams selected (except French Oh là là ). Furthermore this VID_00800 does not show up when I switch to “Full Backup” mode. Is this normal for “movie only” mode or is VID_00800 hidden on “Full Backup” mode? I never have run into this issue before.

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[19:19:03] BD Rebuilder v0.39.01 (beta)
- Source: RIO_FD
- Input BD size: 25.34 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:35:57.793]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[19:19:05] - Aborted per user request

[jdobbs]

Good argument. I normally try to keep only English HD and Spanish tracks. I looked into manually disabling all audio streams by manually collapsing all VID_*** items on the “Stream” tab. I also disabled the “Keep HD audio along with all other options on “Audio Encoding Options” while playing around with 448 and 128 AC3 encoding option.

[19:04:13] BD Rebuilder v0.39.01 (beta)
- Source: RIO_FD
- Input BD size: 39.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:26:45.808]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Target too small. Encode stopped.
-----------------------
[19:05:14] BD Rebuilder v0.39.01 (beta)
- Source: RIO_FD
- Input BD size: 39.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:26:45.808]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
- Target too small. Encode stopped.
-----------------------
[19:05:37] BD Rebuilder v0.39.01 (beta)
- Source: RIO_FD
- Input BD size: 39.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:26:45.808]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=448
- Target too small. Encode stopped.
-----------------------
[19:05:43] BD Rebuilder v0.39.01 (beta)
- Source: RIO_FD
- Input BD size: 39.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:26:45.808]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=448
- Target too small. Encode stopped.
-----------------------
[19:06:37] BD Rebuilder v0.39.01 (beta)
- Source: RIO_FD
- Input BD size: 39.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:26:45.808]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=448
- Target too small. Encode stopped.
-----------------------
[19:09:29] BD Rebuilder v0.39.01 (beta)
- Source: RIO_FD
- Input BD size: 39.06 GB
- Approximate total content: [03:26:45.808]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=192
- Target too small. Encode stopped. "Manually collapsing"??? If you double-click on the audio you'll see a red "X" indicating it is not included. Collapsing does nothing.

[jdobbs]

All I can say is that the only way that error message shows up is when BD-RB calculates the space needed for audio (and PGS) streams and they are too big (combines) for the target.

[Rican_pirate]

What I meant to say was that I collapsed all the VID_ items and “X” all the audio streams I encountered. After “X”ing out the audio streams (all of them for testing purposes) I tried it again with no success. Movie only mode works just fine though. I appreciate the quick response.

[RobertM]

1. Did you try the "limit to one stream" option for audio and subtitles? I know that you want to keep both English and French, but just try limiting both to one stream and see if that makes a difference.

2. Deselect everything in the "audio" section on the Setup screen. From your logs it looks like you have tried this, without seeing any difference. But deselecting everything will allow BDRB to compress all audio streams, and throw out the big uncompressed ones.

3. Is it possible that you have some hidden command in your BDRebuilder.ini file that is overriding some of these settings? You might want to consider deleting that ini file and allow it to recreated itself upon the next program start.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Would insufficient hard drive space result in the same error?

[jdobbs]

@jdobbs

Would insufficient hard drive space result in the same error? It shouldn't. BD-RB doesn't check for remaining hard drive space, so it will continue until it is exhausted. I believe it will then get an error 00061 (disc full).

[Rican_pirate]

1. Did you try the "limit to one stream" option for audio and subtitles? I know that you want to keep both English and French, but just try limiting both to one stream and see if that makes a difference.

2. Deselect everything in the "audio" section on the Setup screen. From your logs it looks like you have tried this, without seeing any difference. But deselecting everything will allow BDRB to compress all audio streams, and throw out the big uncompressed ones.

3. Is it possible that you have some hidden command in your BDRebuilder.ini file that is overriding some of these settings? You might want to consider deleting that ini file and allow it to recreated itself upon the next program start.



1. I’ve always kept “limit to one stream” checked. I usually just keep English and Spanish like I mentioned. But for this particular situation I’ve limited myself to English AC3 stream only. no luck.

2. I did not know that, thanks for the info. I only tried deselecting all audio as a last resort, as a way to isolate “audio” from the equation. No luck

3. I followed your advice and deleted the BDRebuilder.ini. It first I got excited because I saw all of the VID_**** items on the stream tabs (VID_00800 only appears in “movie only” or by switching to BD-5 or BD-9 and the backup works just fine even with the DTS-HD XLL stream selected).

I’m starting to think that I might need to re rip the original to the HDD again, just to eliminate the possibility of a bad Rip.

[kbdavis]

I had that problem too. When I Ripped the movie the backup was in the folder movie-title. I then made an ISO of the movie, trying to save it on my desktop with the same name as the folder. If you don't type movie-title.iso then it would put in the folder. Now not only did the folder have the BDMV and Cert folders, it now had the .iso of that same movie.
:helpful:
Long story short, BD Rebuilder thought the iso was part of the movie (ie extras) and it couldnt convert it cause the iso alone was taking up too much space for the movie to be converted with any left over space.

The two ways to fix my issue was either: remove the iso from the folder, or go to Settings > Setup and check the box that says "Keep only BDMV/CERTIFICATE folders.

So the moral of the story is if you have any file you do not intend on being part of the conversion remove from the parent folder of the BDMV/CERT folders or check the box mentioned above. That solved my issue.

--EDIT--
And yes I am aware this is an old topic. But if anyone with my issue googled this problem such as I have then it could possibly help their situation.

[nutpi]

I just had this same problem. I went to the mode and did a movie backup only without all the other trailers and it worked for me.

[jdobbs]

I just had this same problem. I went to the mode and did a movie backup only without all the other trailers and it worked for me.I'm guessing you were trying to backup the new Arnold BD. Do a search and you'll find a discussion on it.