Keeping the menus

[Chumboy]

so far, i've completed 28 successful backups of various kinds...but i've only burned the movie itself.

what i would like to do is burn the movie AND the main movie menu.

if my movie is setup like this:

Main Menu vob's
- video_ts.vob
- video_ts.ifo

Main Movie
- vts_01_0.ifo
- vts_01_1.vob
- vts_01_x.vob
- vts_01_4.vob

Extras
- vts_02_0.ifo
- vts_02_1.vob
- vts_02_x.vob
- vts_02_6.vob

i'm use to playing only with the Main Movie files and burning them.

how do i keep the original Main Menu with just the PLAY button active. i don't need the extras, just want the main movie menu and the movie.

how do i integrate the menu ifo's and vob's into what i'm already doing with the movie ifo's and vob's?

i'm guessing that once i've made the main movie work (smartripper, ifoedit) then i just copy the original video_ts.* files to the ripped final folder. yes...no.

thanks.

[Coop920]

i'm trying the exact same thing...i only want the main menu and the movie files...

what i tried to do was rip all the files, then i deleted the extra's and stuff...and used ifoedit to fix the ifo file...when i then tried to test the dvd with WINdvd i was able to have the main movie play, but it wont go to the main menu...so if you find out, please tell me

Coop

[Derrow]

@Chumboy

For that case just put these files to your VIDEO_TS folder:
- video_ts.vob
- video_ts.ifo
- video_ts.bup
- vts_01_0.ifo
- vts_01_0.bup
- vts_01_0.vob
- vts_01_1.vob
- vts_01_x.vob
- vts_01_4.vob
- vts_02_0.ifo
- vts_02_0.bup
- vts_02_0.vob


If you now burn them, you DVD-RW should work perfect with menu in your settop player.

[Chumboy]

so i need the VTS_02_x.vob set to make this work?
those contain the extras that i don't need.

[Derrow]

NO, you don't need it!

As you can see, the directory listing ends with VTS_02_0.VOB

This is the Menu VOB. But it could be, that you don't even need to keep that one. You must test it yourself.

[Chumboy]

cool...thanks. i'll give it a try!

[Kanector]

The main menu and movie is enough for me too.

I can get it to work in my standalone player but I guess it's not too strict on following the proper DVD specs because the same DVD-R won't work on other player in particular the PS2.

From Derrows post above, does it mean that for each vts extra you have, you need to keep the ifo file and the menu vob for each extra?

For example would I need to keep:
- vts_02_0.ifo
- vts_02_0.bup
- vts_02_0.vob
- vts_03_0.ifo
- vts_03_0.bup
- vts_03_0.vob
and so on for each vts title set?

[Chumboy]

that's what i am assuming....

you need to keep the extra's menu files to fool the main menu into thinking it's still there. but since you don't have the extra's main vob's, the those choices on the main menu will be deadends.

i guess.

seems like derrow is saying it's different for each dvd.

isn't the video_ts.vob the main menu vob file???

[Coop920]

"isn't the video_ts.vob the main menu vob file???"

that's what i thought too....all the menu's are in that 1 vob, so all in all, you just need to keep the ifo and bup files for the extra's and such, and that should be enough to have it work in a settop ?

Coop

[Chumboy]

should i use the video_ts.ifo/bup that ifoedit creates, or should i copy the original video_ts.ifo/bup to the final output directory?

[kento]

up cause i like to know if someone try it and if it actually works

[Chumboy]

SuperNova. NTSC.

entire disc was 4.12gig.

smartripper, backup mode.

removed ALL VOB's except the movie's and the video_ts.vob (if present). kept everything else.

test and final burn worked perfectly...kept menu to play movie (and scenes).

beautiful.

[Taxidermista]

No, it doesn't work. I did the test with a DVD-5 movie. Two disk, disk #1 with all the files (burned with Primo) and disk #2 without extra vobs (burned with Nero 5.5.6.4, Primo does not acept this), I included VTS_XX_0.IFO and VTS_XX_0.VOB to fool the player. My Sony could be fooled, it plays both disks without problems, but JVC, LG and Daewoo players only play disk #1 (1:1 copy).

[Chumboy]

as derrow said, every disc is different.
you need to check each disc differently.

i've only tested it on my sony-300+1, but that's the only settop i have. don't see a need to make sure it works on a dvd player i don't have.

[Coop920]

was the entire disc 4.12 gb's after you riped out streams or is the dvd just 4.12 gb's total?

[Chumboy]

4.12 total.
very unusual.

[Taxidermista]

Originally posted by Chumboy
as derrow said, every disc is different.
you need to check each disc differently.

i've only tested it on my sony-300+1, but that's the only settop i have. don't see a need to make sure it works on a dvd player i don't have.

No? Well, I don't expect to have this Sony player forever. I need the best compatibility I could get.

[Chumboy]

interesting...
hadn't thought about that.
hmmmmmmm...

[Coop920]

alright, so lets try my movie now :D

Men of Honor, here is the structure

VIDEO_TS.BUP
VIDEO_TS.IFO
VIDEO_TS.VOB
VTS_01_0.BUP
VTS_01_0.IFO
VTS_01_0.VOB
VTS_01_1.VOB
VTS_02_0.BUP
VTS_02_0.IFO
VTS_02_1.VOB
VTS_03_0.BUP
VTS_03_0.IFO
VTS_03_0.VOB
VTS_03_1.VOB
VTS_04_0.BUP
VTS_04_0.IFO
VTS_04_0.VOB
VTS_04_1.VOB
VTS_05_0.BUP
VTS_05_0.IFO
VTS_05_0.VOB
VTS_05_1.VOB
VTS_06_0.BUP
VTS_06_0.IFO
VTS_06_0.VOB
VTS_06_1.VOB
VTS_07_0.BUP
VTS_07_0.IFO
VTS_07_0.VOB
VTS_07_1.VOB
VTS_08_0.BUP
VTS_08_0.IFO
VTS_08_0.VOB - main menu file
VTS_08_1.VOB -
VTS_08_2.VOB
VTS_08_3.VOB main movie files
VTS_08_4.VOB
VTS_08_5.VOB -
VTS_09_0.BUP
VTS_09_0.IFO
VTS_09_0.VOB
VTS_09_1.VOB
VTS_10_0.BUP
VTS_10_0.IFO
VTS_10_0.VOB
VTS_10_1.VOB

the movie files is 4.81 gb's untouched...i planed on ripping out the unwanted 2 channel audio streams. this gets it down to a smaller nicer size.. the menu file is 424 mb's..so what i did was use rempeg on it, and got it down to 100 mb's (not to shabby)...so now my real question is, what do i do now to get this dvd to work?

Coop

[Chumboy]

keep the video_ts.vob
seems like your movie is vts_08_x.vob...keep those vobs.
move all other vob's to a temp directory.

test import into geardvd.

if it doesn't like it, replace some of the other vob's. don't know which ones, you have to test yourself.

[Deathman]

the menus are always stored in the VTS_0x_0.VOB of the main movie..
but on some dvds all the vts_0x_0.vobs and the video_ts.vob can contain part of the menu system as well...

[Chumboy]

deathman,

how do i run the vts_0x_0.vob through ifoedit and still maintain the menu's (assuming the menu is in that file)?

i know how to run the movie itself through ifoedit (vts_0x_1.vob...vts_0x_5.vob), but how do i integrate the vts_0x_0.vob?

can you have me a quick step by step?:D

[kento]

Up
we must advance on this point.
I do tests but with no sucess :(

[Mindhunter93]

I've been trying relentlessly to get the 'Mummy Returns' DVD to work with just the main menu and the movie itself...nothing seems to work. The DVD structure is as follows:
VIDEO_TS.IFO
VIDEO_TS.BUP
VIDEO_TS.VOB
VTS_01_0.IFO
VTS_01_0.BUP
VTS_01_1.VOB
VTS_02_0.IFO
VTS_02_0.BUP
VTS_02_1.VOB
VTS_03_0.IFO
VTS_03_0.BUP
VTS_03_1.VOB
VTS_04_0.IFO
VTS_04_0.BUP
VTS_04_1.VOB
VTS_05_0.IFO
VTS_05_0.BUP
VTS_05_1.VOB
VTS_06_0.IFO
VTS_06_0.BUP
VTS_06_1.VOB „²Extras
VTS_07_0.IFO
VTS_07_0.BUP
VTS_07_0.VOB „² Mai n Menu
VTS_07_1.VOB |
VTS_07_2.VOB |
VTS_07_3.VOB |-- Main Movie
VTS_07_4.VOB |
VTS_07_5.VOB |
VTS_07_6.VOB |
VTS_08_0.IFO
VTS_08_0.BUP
VTS_08_1.VOB „² Extras
VTS_08_2.VOB „² Extras
VTS_09_0.IFO
VTS_09_0.BUP
VTS_09_1.VOB „² Extras

I¡¦ve tried everything to get the DVD to run with just the main menu and movie, but it refuses to load the menu and just starts the movie. Is there a something I¡¦m missing, because none of the suggestions posted here seem to work with this particular movie.

MindHunter

[Chumboy]

you need to play each vob file with DVD2AVI

when you see pieces of the.....
intro to the main menu
main menu
exit from main menu
....look in the right hand panel and take note of the vob # and the cell id it is in.
you want to keep these and strip out all the other cell id's.

hope this helps.