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remainz
8th April 2011, 16:18
HI
I am having a lot of trouble finding a working 64bit x264 encoder that works for me.
I have tried installing the encoder prog from x264.nl on windows 7 & 7.1 with no success,1924 64bit 8bit-depth. The installer appears to open and close immediately without installing anything. I have also tried the 32bit version with the same results.
I need a 64bit version to encode from within 3ds Max 64bit, as the only option I currently have is uncompressed avi for my previews.
Im at a loss HELP!!!:eek:
thanks remainz
Chikuzen
8th April 2011, 16:33
installer?
they are commandline tool.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command-line_interface
LoRd_MuldeR
8th April 2011, 16:35
remainz,
you are probably looking for a fully-fledged GUI, not for the plain command-line encoder (as offered on x264.nl) ;)
There are dozens of GUI's for x264 available. Have a look here:
http://forum.doom9.org/forumdisplay.php?f=78
For example:
* MeGUI: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=112496
* Simple x264 Launcher: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=144140
* StraxRip: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=102652
komisar
8th April 2011, 16:50
remainz
...or try to use vfw-interface in 3ds-max via vfw-version of x264 from HERE (http://komisar.gin.by/) or HERE (http://sourceforge.net/projects/x264vfw/)
:) ...some ppl dont like VFW... :p
LoRd_MuldeR
8th April 2011, 16:57
remainz
...or try to use vfw-interface in 3ds-max via vfw-version of x264 from HERE (http://komisar.gin.by/) or HERE (http://sourceforge.net/projects/x264vfw/)
:) ...some ppl dont like VFW... :p
Small addition: The VFW Codec doesn't work on its own. If you want to use VFW, then you will need to use some application that makes use of VFW Codecs (such as VirtualDub (http://virtualdub.com/)).
And keep in mind that storing H.264 streams in AVI containers is evil :devil:
komisar
8th April 2011, 17:00
:) LoRd_MuldeR, you forgot about vfw support output not only in .avi...
and vfw allow direct (without intermediate "uncompressed avi") render to mp4/mkv/etc...
LoRd_MuldeR
8th April 2011, 17:05
I know that some VFW Codecs implement workarounds to smuggle the frames around VirtualDub and write them into a MKV or MP4 (or whatever) container directly.
But that's probably not what a newbie user is going to do straightaway ;)
(And yes, VirtualDub also supports piping the "raw" output to the x264 command-line encoder now. At least this feature was introduced in some beta version)
remainz
8th April 2011, 17:12
I have just installed megui(and avisynth etc etc) and it is not a 64bit encoder, so that was a waste of time and a mess.
Im not looking for any old x264 encoder but a 64 bit program that will work inside programs like 3dsmax. In the same way quicktime is available in adobe and other programs . I would use quicktime but it is not 64bit in windows!
So can you please suggest 64bit programs and not just any old 264 GUI. Your links do not do not contain any of this information.
32 bit software does run on win 64 but they are not compatible with other 64bit programs. 3dsmax 64bit needs a 64bit codec encoder and gui. Apple refuses to make win 64 version.
thanks
remainz
8th April 2011, 17:13
komisar
the first link is what I originaly tried. It has no GUI or doesnt install properly. Either way nothing happens when I install it same as x264.nl.
The second is not 64bit! as it install in the x86 folder
komisar
8th April 2011, 17:15
:) ...and the last question... is the 3ds-max support rendering scenes into "uncompressed avi"? if so then quicker method for "newbie user" is to change compression method via host app...
remainz, what do you think about the ease of these methods?
p.s. x264.nl dont host x264VFW... only CLI-version...
direct link to current 64-bit vfw-version: from masternobody (http://sourceforge.net/projects/x264vfw/files/x264vfw64/32_1913bm_27769/x264vfw64_32_1913bm_27769.exe/download) and from komisar (http://komisar.gin.by/old/1924/x264vfw.1924kMod.x86_64.exe)
LoRd_MuldeR
8th April 2011, 17:17
I have just installed megui(and avisynth etc etc) and it is not a 64bit encoder, so that was a waste of time and a mess.
First of all: 32-Bit builds of x264 can be just as up-to-date as 64-Bit builds.
Also x264 64-Bit has some advantages (it's a bit a faster and doesn't have a 2 GB memory limit), but that certainly does NOT mean that 32-Bit x264 is a mess ;)
Im not looking for any old x264 encoder but a 64 bit program that will work inside programs like 3dsmax. In the same way quicktime is available in adobe and other programs . I would use quicktime but it is not 64bit in windows!
So your goal is to encode directly from an application called "3dsmax". That important information was missing in your initial post.
Maybe you start by telling us what interface that "3dsmax" uses to communicate with the encoder (VFW? DirectShow? proprietary plug-in system?), so we can recommend a solution.
Also, if your "base" application is 32-Bit, you MUST use 32-Bit x264. The same way you must use 64-Bit x264 with 64-Bit applications. 32-Bit and 64-Bit code cannot be mixed in a process!
Of course this limitation does NOT apply when x264 runs in its own process, as is the case with the x264 command-line encoder...
RunningSkittle
8th April 2011, 18:11
Remainz: Please research before you shout "it doesnt work!!!!!!!". x264 is a commandline encoder, there is nothing to install. it is a single executable.
That being said, for your application you will want something that has VFW interface. A quick google search would have brought you to the sourceforge page for VFW x264 :rolleyes:
For your convenience:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/x264vfw/files/
both d3smax and x264vfw must be either 32bit or 64bit, you can not mix and match!
remainz
8th April 2011, 18:51
when I google x264 64 bit encoder gui
I come up with this thread!
I am perfectly aware of the difference between a gui and a command line but I cannot tell that a program is command line if it doesnt say so, can I!
http://www.videolan.org/developers/x264.html
http://x264.nl/
neither of these say that they are command line only.
How am I to know?
I was very clear, I need a 64bit encoder, as described in my first post. And I was very clear that it was for a 64bit only program.:readfaq:
I also wouldnt be here looking for something so complex if didnt know how to select a sub codec from a menu. 3dsmax does not have any good 64bit codecs, only dv , mjpeg, and uncompressed avi. Only uncompressed can be rendered at high resolutions.
I do not know what interface it uses to access system codec or guis and I will attempt to find out.
megui installed lots of stuff I dont need and never will , which is a mess isnt it?
komisar
8th April 2011, 18:58
remainz, try vfw builds from this post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1490838#post1490838) (direct-linked)
Sharktooth
8th April 2011, 20:37
megui doesnt make any mess. everything gets removed when you uninstall it and all what you call "mess" is stored into megui installation subfolders.
almost all what megui downloads, doesnt require installation (it gets just stored in a folder) and do not mess with your system or registry.
me7
10th April 2011, 09:15
I am perfectly aware of the difference between a gui and a command line but I cannot tell that a program is command line if it doesnt say so, can I!
http://www.videolan.org/developers/x264.html
http://x264.nl/
neither of these say that they are command line only.
How am I to know?
You can expect any "official" build of an open source encoder to be released without GUI unless stated otherwise. The x264 developers focus on the OS independent encoding code and leave the development of GUIs for specific systems to others.
I also wouldnt be here looking for something so complex if didnt know how to select a sub codec from a menu. 3dsmax does not have any good 64bit codecs, only dv , mjpeg, and uncompressed avi. Only uncompressed can be rendered at high resolutions.
Do you want to use x264 to display AVC videos? x264 doesn't support decoding (playback)of video files, it only encodes (compresses) videos to AVC. You might be on the wrong way
megui installed lots of stuff I dont need and never will , which is a mess isnt it?
It just has a plugin folder with tons of tools it uses internally, none of them are installed in a separate folder, moved to your Windows folder or added to the registry.
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