best pc build for bdrebuilder

[dazmac]

probably been asked before, but just wondered what kind of pc build would be best to have so bdrebuilder runs better/quicker etc

thanks
daz

[steptoe]

Silly answer, but as fast as your pocket can afford as if you intend to run BD-RB or lots of patience per encoding as the average seems to be anywhere from 12-24 hours per project

Personally, I think the new Intel i5 2500k with a minimum of 4GB of memory should be enough, but then again for pure video work the i7 2500k is a better system but nearly double the price and if you don't intend to play games on it spend less on a GFX card but more on memory speed


If you intend to overclock the i5's then you can get a 4Ghz system for less than £500, which includes motherboard, CPU, 4GB memory and GTX460 GFX card. Thats what I am looking at, but intend to use it for all round use and not purely video work

[werd84]

probably been asked before, but just wondered what kind of pc build would be best to have so bdrebuilder runs better/quicker etc

thanks
daz

Silly answer, but as fast as your pocket can afford as if you intend to run BD-RB or lots of patience per encoding as the average seems to be anywhere from 12-24 hours per project

Personally, I think the new Intel i5 2500k with a minimum of 4GB of memory should be enough, but then again for pure video work the i7 2500k is a better system but nearly double the price and if you don't intend to play games on it spend less on a GFX card but more on memory speed


If you intend to overclock the i5's then you can get a 4Ghz system for less than £500, which includes motherboard, CPU, 4GB memory and GTX460 GFX card. Thats what I am looking at, but intend to use it for all round use and not purely video work

I run an AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (2.8 hex core no OC) with 4GB of ram and with the windows 7 64bit. I rip the original to a 2TB Raid0 (2 1TB drives). I also save it back to the same raid0.

On the automatic setting, keeping only 1 HD audio stream, full disc back up BD25, it take about the same amount of time as BD-RB says the source is to run the encode.

Hope this helps

P.S. it only pushes my system 40-50% load, so if I wanted I could run two encodes at once. I tried this a few times and every thing came out fine, even ran a dvd encode with two BD encodes just to put a little more stress on the system :devil:, and all came out well.

[dazmac]

will soley be using the machine for bdrebuilder so realy just need to no best set up for that, does the graphics card not make much difference or is it just the ram and processor that do all the work

daz

[jdobbs]

You will find disc I/O and frame serving to be the limiting factor when you get to very high-end machines. X264 can use 100% of 6 processors -- but the system can't feed frames to it fast enough.

[steptoe]

In that case the GFX card is really of no concern unless you intend to try out CUDA at a later date but that can be added easily

If you have the money and deep pockets, I 'personally' would go for the Intel i7 2600k at 3.4ghz with the Asus P8P67 motherboard and 8GB of DDR3 memory. Or use the Intel i5 2500k and save £100

Then get a couple of SATA hard drives, say 1TB each and maybe a 60GB SSD to run Win7 off

Using two SATA hard drives means that the hard disk isn't thrashing about moves files back and forth. Use one for the source video and the other for the destination, with the SSD running the actual software for the fastest possible speed in accessing the software

8GB may be overkill to some but 8GB is very cheap at the moment less than £100 for pretty fast Corsair memory to squeeze that bit more speed out, and also that overhead will mean things are not struggling

The Intel i7 2600k is capable of being overclocking to 4.5ghz without too much effort with a good 3rd party CPU cooler, and as its 4 core with 4 logical core its classed as having 8 cores where the Intel i5 2500k has 'only' 4 cores. Video work will use all cores possible so reducing the encode times even further


My wishlist is current the same as above but using the Intel i5 2500k 2.6ghz as when overclocked to 4ghz matches the Intel i7 2600k 3.4ghz when thats running at stock speeds, but if you overclock the i7 to 4.5ghz your talking some serious speeds


I'm also looking at the Nvidia GTX460 as its around £120 and one of the better GFX cards, for that price, if you intend to do gaming or video encoding using CUDA at some point in the future, or go really silly and get the Nvidia GTX 570

I still use my GTS8800 which is now about 3 years old and still handles my gaming needs and CUDA encodes but I have 'only' a 19" monitor

[mouw]

my present machine: Single purpose Blu-Ray Rip/Encode/Burn
i7-920 OC-> 3.8ghz on Asus P6T-Deluxe mb w/6gb DDR3 - Seagate 1.5TB 7200rpm - Vista 64bit
Movie Only- 25GB - Highest Quality =~ 8-10hrs
Win RAM performance meter shows only using 2gb of the 6gb memory
4 cores + 4HT cores all at 100% on 2nd PASS (CPU=60C w/NH-U12P SE2 fan)
CPU temp was 90C w/Intel Stock Fan
bought 12gb DDR3 -- but still only uses 2gb
?? anyway to get X264 to use more RAM ??
from what JDOBBS says above about Disk I/O ==
maybe putting BD-Rebuilder / Source / Temp-workspace all on a SSD (128GB min)
would speed things UP --but by how much?
if i were to set up VM drives from RAM---what would be best use?

[HWK]

my present machine: Single purpose Blu-Ray Rip/Encode/Burn
i7-920 OC-> 3.8ghz on Asus P6T-Deluxe mb w/6gb DDR3 - Seagate 1.5TB 7200rpm - Vista 64bit
Movie Only- 25GB - Highest Quality =~ 8-10hrs
Win RAM performance meter shows only using 2gb of the 6gb memory
4 cores + 4HT cores all at 100% on 2nd PASS (CPU=60C w/NH-U12P SE2 fan)
CPU temp was 90C w/Intel Stock Fan
bought 12gb DDR3 -- but still only uses 2gb
?? anyway to get X264 to use more RAM ??
from what JDOBBS says above about Disk I/O ==
maybe putting BD-Rebuilder / Source / Temp-workspace all on a SSD (128GB min)
would speed things UP --but by how much?
if i were to set up VM drives from RAM---what would be best use?

Hmm. Seems slow to me. Mine does in six hours or less with three pass option selected. Here are my config
I have Intel Core i7 860 (2.93GHZ) Highest clock rate possible is 3.1ghz because of turbo. No overclock done on my part.
I always select full movie on Ultra high quality setting.
My OS is Windows 7
My ram is 12GB. But total usage never reach even 3 gb with all service and process running.
Reference movie avatar, But of all the movies I have doen it never gone above six hours limit.
Also I haven't turn off any services which take up harddrive resources. Such as indexing service.
Harddrive is 7200Rpm and it is not ssd based.
One Harddrive is used for source and destination.

[jdobbs]

my present machine: Single purpose Blu-Ray Rip/Encode/Burn
i7-920 OC-> 3.8ghz on Asus P6T-Deluxe mb w/6gb DDR3 - Seagate 1.5TB 7200rpm - Vista 64bit
Movie Only- 25GB - Highest Quality =~ 8-10hrs
Win RAM performance meter shows only using 2gb of the 6gb memory
4 cores + 4HT cores all at 100% on 2nd PASS (CPU=60C w/NH-U12P SE2 fan)
CPU temp was 90C w/Intel Stock Fan
bought 12gb DDR3 -- but still only uses 2gb
?? anyway to get X264 to use more RAM ??
from what JDOBBS says above about Disk I/O ==
maybe putting BD-Rebuilder / Source / Temp-workspace all on a SSD (128GB min)
would speed things UP --but by how much?
if i were to set up VM drives from RAM---what would be best use? I'd recommend using "High Quality (Default)" rather than "Highest Quality" -- you're paying a very high price in terms of time for no visible difference in quality (especially when outputting to Movie-Only/25GB). Frankly, "Good" will give you an excellent picture in that scenario. Try it. I'm betting you won't be able to tell the difference.

[Groucho2004]

?? anyway to get X264 to use more RAM ??

I'm sure the developers can build in a couple of memory leaks. You'll be pleased to see the increased memory usage. :cool:

[six13]

my system is a custom build with a i7 950 GHZ quad core, 8 GB DDR3 2 SATA 2 HDD. I uses DVD-RB 98.2 free version with HCenc 25 at Best setting and I encode at 300 fps. I don't use CCE SP anymore since it isn't written to take advantage of 4 core processors SSE4 instructions.

Jdobbs told me to set the drives as C drive for source and work then my D drive for the output. I know many people don't have source/work on the same drive but this is what jdobbs recomended in a previous posting years ago.

encoding video really comes down to processor power.