DVD to AVI advanced!

[RobbieG1977]

Hello doom9,

I read over the titles DVD to AVI and those topics are covering what I already know. My problem is this...

I used Magic DVD Ripper to rip my discs to AVI. I have it set to infinite so that the whole disc is one file. What I would love to do is take the TV series DVD's and rip each episode off of them but I don't think that can be done!

If that could be done, please help educate me...

Otherwise I am stuck making the infinite files. What could I do or create to understand which episode I am watching. For example, make a menu of the episodes and combine it with the actual avi file I created?

Please help!

Thanks!

[Inspector.Gadget]

I used Magic DVD Ripper

There's your problem. Use DVD Decrypter in IFO mode (so you can rip individual titles or split one big title by chapters) and your favorite program from the MPEG-4 Encoder GUIs subforum here. Done.

[RobbieG1977]

Ok I installed DVD Decrypter 3.5. I have it set to IFO mode. On the right side of the window I see input and streaming. What do I do now to get each episode from the dvd?

[Ghitulescu]

Well read the help files.

[manono]

If the episodes are in different VTS's, DVD Decrypter will show you only the longest one. Decrypt each to its own folder. If all the episodes are in one long VTS/PGC, then check how many chapters there are against how many episodes you already know there are. For example, if there are 5 episodes and 20 (or 21, the last being a 'dummy' chapter), then each episode contains 4 chapters. Deselect all but the 4 you want for that particular episode and decrypt it to its own folder. Check when done to make sure you did it right.

Forget the 'Input' and 'Stream Processing' Tabs. What you want is the Chapter List just below.

[CWR03]

DVDFab HD Decrypter will also rip an episodic disk and allow you to select one episode at a time.

[RobbieG1977]

I have DVDFab HD Decrypter. Is there a tutorial on how to rip each episode?

When I open the program up I select the main movie tab and I can pinpoint each of the episodes. Now how to do ripe them to AVI file?

[manono]

Now how to do ripe them to AVI file?
By using a different program, one such as AutoGK. The free version of DVDFab HD Decrypter will only decrypt the DVD episodes to the hard drive.

[RobbieG1977]

I have the full version of DVD Fab...

[RobbieG1977]

Right now I have taken my disc 5 of law and order and ripped each disc. But like I said b4, my problem is of getting each episode into an AVI file.

When I open the programs you guys mention I don't see the option of ripping each episode into an AVI file format...

[CWR03]

No, they don't. You have to rip and encode separately.

[yetanotherid]

I use RipIt4Me for ripping which in turn uses DVD Dectrypter to do the work. For episodic DVDs I always rip the whole disc. Then I open the ripped files with DVD Shrink and select "re-author" at the top. DVD shrink will display a list of titles. It's not always obvious which title belongs to each episode but you can check by playing them or by opening the whole disc with a player such as Media Player Classic Home Cinema. Using it to play each episode it'll display the title it's playing.

You'll see what I mean when you open the ripped files with DVD Shrink. The right pane will display a list of titles. Often title one = episode one, title two = episode 2 but you can't rely on it. Sometimes they'll be mixed up or each episode will have more than one title (you only need to select one). When in re-author mode you drag each title/episode from the right pane and drop it into the left pane. You can then select the compression tab to select which audio and subtitle tracks you want to keep.
Don't forget that DVD Shrink is designed to shrink a DVD to fit on a single layer blank and you don't want it to do that so you need to go into DVD Shrink's options and set the target disc size to something large to ensure it just copies the DVD and doesn't try to shrink it. (If you leave the target size at the default of a single layer disc DVD Shrink may re-encode the files).

Once you've dragged each episode to the left pane (and if you play around you'll see there's also a way to edit each title which is handy for chopping off the studio promos at the beginning of each episode if you dislike them as much as I do) use DVD Shrink's backup function to save your re-authored disc to a new location on your hard drive. When it's done you'll have a new folder of files with individual ifo and vob files for each episode. You can then use a program such as AutoGK to encode them to AVI.

Once you've done it a couple of times re-authoring with DVD Shrink is pretty easy. DVD Shrink was originally designed to work directly from the disc (rather than needing to rip the files to your hard drive first) but it doesn't always cope with newer copy protections. However if you running a program such as AnyDVD which removes the copy protection on the fly, you should be able to open the disc directly with DVD Shrink, re-author it and save the re-authored version to your hard drive without having to bother with the step of ripping.

Does anyone know which conversion programs will convert individual titles from a DVD without having to re-author it? I know AutoGK won't, which is why I do re-author them, but will other programs such as Handbrake or Staxrip pick out individual titles to encode?

[CWR03]

My encoding procedure is already more complicated than I like, but it's what I'm accustomed to. I wouldn't want to add the additional work of reauthoring the disk my episode with DVD Shrink, which is why I rip each episode with DVDFab HD Decrypter. The only additional work is renaming the folder between rips. I have yet to find an episodic disk that doesn't list the episodes in the order they would usually play on the DVD, so determining which episode is which is never a problem. Additional audio tracks and unwanted subtitles can also be deselected before ripping.

[yetanotherid]

I have yet to find an episodic disk that doesn't list the episodes in the order they would usually play on the DVD, so determining which episode is which is never a problem. Additional audio tracks and unwanted subtitles can also be deselected before ripping.

Maybe that's because you're ripping the episodes with DVDFab HD Decrypter rather then re-authoring the disc??
I've seen dozens and dozens of discs where the "Title" and the episode number don't match. Often it's easy.... title 1 may be a promo, title 2 may be the FBI warning, then title 3 to 8 may be episodes 1 to 6, but it's not always that straight forward.
Even when re-authoring a DVD containing a single movie there's usually more than one title, but the size of the title is generally the give-away as to which one is the movie.

The re-authoring process probably isn't all that different to what you're doing with DVDFab HD Decrypter (I've never used it) but if you're ripping each episode one at a time then you're re-authoring, just in a different way. With DVD Shrink (assuming it can directly open the disc) I'm probably just doing the same thing manually, except I can choose to keep all the episodes on a single DVD together as a re-authored DVD if I wish, but as separate ifo/vob files for encoding. Or I can re-author each episode individually in it's own folder like you do. It just takes a bit longer.

I assume DVDFab HD Decrypter has kept you sheltered from the fact some episodic DVDs contain all episodes in a single collection of vob files, just like a single movie? You have to re-author those to split them into episodes, whether you do it your way with DVDFab HD Decrypter or my way with DVD Shrink.

[Chetwood]

No you don't. Easiest way is to rip each ep with DVDfab in "main movie" mode. Unlike Shrink's reauthoring this will remove all protections and sync issues so you can easily batch encode each ep with AutoGK. Simply open the disc in DVDFab to see which ep has which title then write your batch accordingly:

DVDfab /MODE "MAINMOVIE" /SRC "v:" /DEST "D:\my favourite show\ep 01" /TITLE "1" /CLOSE
DVDfab /MODE "MAINMOVIE" /SRC "v:" /DEST "D:\my favourite show\ep 02" /TITLE "2" /CLOSE
DVDfab /MODE "MAINMOVIE" /SRC "v:" /DEST "D:\my favourite show\ep 03" /TITLE "3" /CLOSE
DVDfab /MODE "MAINMOVIE" /SRC "v:" /DEST "D:\my favourite show\ep 04" /TITLE "4" /CLOSE

[yetanotherid]

No you don't. Easiest way is to rip each ep with DVDfab in "main movie" mode. Unlike Shrink's reauthoring this will remove all protections and sync issues so you can easily batch encode each ep with AutoGK.

And how's that not doing pretty much exactly what I do with DVD Shrink? How's it not re-authoring the DVD? If you're not ripping the whole disc then you must be re-authoring it in some way.

If I choose to I can use AnyDVD to remove all protections so there's none for DVD Shrink to worry about, and I'm not sure which sync issues you're referring to.

Simply open the disc in DVDFab to see which ep has which title then write your batch accordingly:

If need be I simply open the disc with MPC-HC to see which ep has which title, and I drag and drop the titles to re-author the disc with DVD Shrink instead of writing batches.

We're both probably doing the same thing, just going about it differently.

[CWR03]

Maybe that's because you're ripping the episodes with DVDFab HD Decrypter rather then re-authoring the disc??
I've seen dozens and dozens of discs where the "Title" and the episode number don't match. Often it's easy.... title 1 may be a promo, title 2 may be the FBI warning, then title 3 to 8 may be episodes 1 to 6, but it's not always that straight forward.
Yes, and it's very easy to tell because of the length of the titles. Title 1 may be 20 seconds and title 2 may be a minute, then title 3-6 are 44 minutes. I may be doing the same thing, but it's only a couple clicks per episode.

I assume DVDFab HD Decrypter has kept you sheltered from the fact some episodic DVDs contain all episodes in a single collection of vob files, just like a single movie? You have to re-author those to split them into episodes, whether you do it your way with DVDFab HD Decrypter or my way with DVD Shrink.
I'm not "sheltered," I used to use DVD Decrypter which sometimes wouldn't list the episodes individually in any mode, so I would rip the whole disk and split them before encoding.

I'm not knocking your method, I was simply offering an alternative which by your own description sounds like fewer steps (and doesn't require AnyDVD).

[Chetwood]

Yeah, my reply wasn't as clear to the point as I meant to especially since I was meaning to respond to this:
I assume DVDFab HD Decrypter has kept you sheltered from the fact some episodic DVDs contain all episodes in a single collection of vob files, just like a single movie?
I have yet to see an episodic disc that only references each ep from one file. Usually they are in one big file but due to the authoring also appear as single episodes so unless you use AutoGK straight on the original DVD which can't tell the difference and encodes all eps into one AVI you're on the safe side.

If I choose to I can use AnyDVD to remove all protections so there's none for DVD Shrink to worry about, and I'm not sure which sync issues you're referring to.
Apart from the fact that AnyDVD costs money and ripping with DVDfab is free you still do not necessarily get all protections bypassed with a tool in the background. I realized this some time ago when ripping DVDs like Lost. The resulting DVD is in sync but if I used eps reauthored/extracted with Shrink a later encode with AutoGK would be out of sync.

[yetanotherid]

Actually, my apologies if my replies seemed odd. I thought I was responding to the same poster each time, but obviously Chetwood and CWR03 aren't the same person.

I have yet to see an episodic disc that only references each ep from one file.

Well not one file, there might be six or so successive vob files but they play like a movie from start to finish. Sometimes each episode has it's own set of vob files on the disc, sometimes not.

Apart from the fact that AnyDVD costs money and ripping with DVDfab is free you still do not necessarily get all protections bypassed with a tool in the background. I realized this some time ago when ripping DVDs like Lost. The resulting DVD is in sync but if I used eps reauthored/extracted with Shrink a later encode with AutoGK would be out of sync.

I'll admit I generally rip and re-author without a program like AnyDVD so I can't argue your point with any certainty. I generally do a few DVDs at a time and I've got four DVD drives so I can rip four simultaneously and start re-authoring the first one to finish ripping while I wait for the rest, and running two RAID volumes makes saving the re-authored DVD with DVD Shrink pretty quick. So I just do it that way....

Your Lost example.... if you ripped each episode directly using DVDfab there'd be no sync issue after encoding?
I'm just trying to think why there'd be a difference if the resulting DVD was still in sync either way before it was encoded. I'm not saying it didn't happen just that I don't know why it would.

[CWR03]

"Lost" is one of the few series DVDs that has an advanced copy protection. I don't know which one it is, but the same sync issues occur as with many movies that aren't properly pre-processed before encoding. Yes, DVDFab HD Decrypter will rip it by episode and give you files that will encode in sync.

[yetanotherid]

I'd still like to know how a DVD can be ripped, the ripped files play in sync but the encode is out of sync. How does copy protection do that? I'm not saying it can't as i don't know, but I'd like to understand how it can.

[CWR03]

I don't think it's the copy protection that causes audio desync but the improper stripping of it that introduces an audio delay when the file is re-encoded.

[yetanotherid]

That's what I don't understand. Why would the demuxing of the audio when decoding cause (or not) an audio desync depending on how the DVD was originally ripped?

[manono]

That's what I don't understand. Why would the demuxing of the audio when decoding cause (or not) an audio desync depending on how the DVD was originally ripped?
Because the unreferenced cells are still in there if it isn't properly decrypted. When playing the DVD it's instructed to skip over them and it plays in synch. When demuxing you get them included and because they don't have any audio included in them, you add a bunch of these things before the 'real' video begins (or even sometimes in the middle of the video), and it throws the audio synch out of whack.

[yetanotherid]

Because the unreferenced cells are still in there if it isn't properly decrypted. When playing the DVD it's instructed to skip over them and it plays in synch. When demuxing you get them included and because they don't have any audio included in them, you add a bunch of these things before the 'real' video begins (or even sometimes in the middle of the video), and it throws the audio synch out of whack.

That makes sense. It probably explains why I've not experienced the problem. I generally use RipIt4Me rather than DVD Decrypter directly, and it has a function to scan for and remove unreferenced video before I open the ripped files with DVD Shrink to re-author them.
Next time I convert some DVDs I'll try AnyDVD while using DVDShrink directly on the disc to see what happens.

[Chetwood]

Dead on manono. Problem is that also the subs are out of sync sometimes even with an offset different from audio.

[manono]

I generally use RipIt4Me rather than DVD Decrypter directly,
Although you might not have realized it, that's a very good policy. It's often useful to run the VOBs through FixVTS (which RipIt4Me uses to get rid of the unreferenced cells) even if you've decrypted using DVDFab HD Decrypter.

[RobbieG1977]

Ok so what is the best way to go about getting each epi off a CD?

I have read three different ways and none them seem to have helped my amateur knowledge of ripping DVD's...

[manono]

If the episodes are in different VTS's, DVD Decrypter will show you only the longest one. Decrypt each to its own folder. If all the episodes are in one long VTS/PGC, then check how many chapters there are against how many episodes you already know there are. For example, if there are 5 episodes and 20 (or 21, the last being a 'dummy' chapter), then each episode contains 4 chapters. Deselect all but the 4 you want for that particular episode and decrypt it to its own folder. Check when done to make sure you did it right.

Forget the 'Input' and 'Stream Processing' Tabs. What you want is the Chapter List just below.
Was that one of the things you tried? Have you told us if your episodes are each in a different VTS, in different titles within the same VTS, or all in a single title within the same VTS?

Maybe post a pic from VobBlanker. Open the DVD in VobBlanker. If they're in different VTS's, the main screen will be OK. If they're all in the same VTS, double-click on it so that it appears in the lower panel. Post a pic of that.

[CWR03]

Ok so what is the best way to go about getting each epi off a CD?
Are you asking again how to rip episodes separately directly from DVD into an AVI file? There are no programs that do that in one step.

[RobbieG1977]

Here is what I gathered from you guys!

Use DVDFab to rip the DVD to an ISO file....

DVDFab HD Decrypter will also rip an episodic disk and allow you to select one episode at a time.

From there, people are telling me several different ways to do it.

FairUse
AutoGK
MPC-HC

No you don't. Easiest way is to rip each ep with DVDfab in "main movie" mode. Unlike Shrink's reauthoring this will remove all protections and sync issues so you can easily batch encode each ep with AutoGK. Simply open the disc in DVDFab to see which ep has which title then write your batch accordingly:

DVDfab /MODE "MAINMOVIE" /SRC "v:" /DEST "D:\my favourite show\ep 01" /TITLE "1" /CLOSE
DVDfab /MODE "MAINMOVIE" /SRC "v:" /DEST "D:\my favourite show\ep 02" /TITLE "2" /CLOSE
DVDfab /MODE "MAINMOVIE" /SRC "v:" /DEST "D:\my favourite show\ep 03" /TITLE "3" /CLOSE
DVDfab /MODE "MAINMOVIE" /SRC "v:" /DEST "D:\my favourite show\ep 04" /TITLE "4" /CLOSE

How do I rip each episode? Just select it and rip it? After I rip the DVD I get lost...

[CWR03]

No one said to use DVDFab to rip to an ISO file. That doesn't solve the problem you're having, it just copies the entire disk to your drive without the copy protections. Use "Main Movie" mode, rip each episode individually (With DVDFab you will have to rename the folder between each episode ripped), then open and encode them individually to AVI with whatever tool you like.

[Ghitulescu]

There are some hundreds answers to your question in this forum, the issue of ripping episodic DVDs has been explained many times and considered to be solved. What seems not to be solved is bypassing the newest protections. Once these are gone, the procedure is the same.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=32812&highlight=dvd+ripping
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=42501&highlight=dvd+ripping
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=48546&highlight=dvd+ripping
Note the dates of the replies, nothing has changed since.
And try yourself to get updated with the basic procedures and why not with the manuals/help files these software come with. And use search.

[RobbieG1977]

Ok I think I have ripped the IFO file using dvd decrypter....Now I need to install autogk. Where do I get the file? I downloaded this file (http://universal-downloader.en.softonic.com/44000/44292/ud_200/SoftonicDownloader_for_autogk.exe?AWSAccessKeyId=0HXVA1YMG3HX1XDSGT02&Expires=1300352624&Signature=MTp%2BVg0BVLAGh1b0MwqBKyXzjrw%3D&file=/SoftonicDownloader_for_autogk.exe) but I don't think its the right one. When I try and run it, Windows Vista says program can't run. Any ideas?

[manono]

If you mean you used DVD Decrypter in IFO Mode to get just the movie, then you did it right. If you mean something else, then do it again in IFO Mode to get just the movie you want to feed into AutoGK. One place to get AutoGK is here:

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/AutoGK

[yetanotherid]

Ok so what is the best way to go about getting each epi off a CD?

I have read three different ways and none them seem to have helped my amateur knowledge of ripping DVD's...

I wrote a detailed explanation of how I do it in post #12. Others have explained the ways they do it. Which methods are you having problems with?

[RobbieG1977]

I tried DVD Decrypter and creating the files through IFO mode. I just haven't been able to find autoGK until the last poster posted it for me.

Will keep you informed as to whether I was successful.

As for DVDFab, I went under main move and selected the title I wanted to RIP. I hit next and start. It ripped the whole movie, not the episode I had selected....

[Ghitulescu]

Since I don't care about AVI & Co, I can only say to you how I would proceed. First I would rip the DVD to my HDD (since I don't care about menus & stuff, I use old tools, you should use AnyDVD). If you use AnyDVD then use DVDdecrypter too (it has a special mode to collaborate with AnyDVD, search the net). Then I would use dvdshrink to get each episode in a new file. Should I have synch problem, them I'll "clean" the rip. From the separate episodes (IFO+VOB), you can continue as you like.

Any step you don't understand - > use search, it has been done before.

[CWR03]

As for DVDFab, I went under main move and selected the title I wanted to RIP. I hit next and start. It ripped the whole movie, not the episode I had selected....
Did you use the latest version of DVDFab HD Decrypter?

What is the name of the TV series you are trying to rip?

[RobbieG1977]

Hey CWR03,

Yea I have the latest version of DVDFab. I am not at my computer so I can't recall the version....

I am trying to rip Law and Order SVU.

[Chetwood]

After opening the DVD in DVDFab select main movie on the left pane which will list all eps in the right pane. You can identify each ep by it's run time as well as verify this using the preview window. Whatever ep is selected will be ripped and not the whole disc.

[pc_speak]

For this you need 'FixVTS 1.603' and 'pgcdemux 1.2.0.5'

I ripped an episodic DVD: the main movie only.
This is what I got.

VIDEO_TS.BUP 6,144
VIDEO_TS.IFO 6,144
VTS_01_0.BUP 75,776
VTS_01_0.IFO 75,776
VTS_01_1.VOB 1,073,739,776
VTS_01_2.VOB 1,073,739,776
VTS_01_3.VOB 1,073,739,776
VTS_01_4.VOB 1,073,739,776
VTS_01_5.VOB 1,073,739,776
VTS_01_6.VOB 278,349,824

Edit:-
:eek: :)
OOPS! Forgot to mention, I then deleted the VIDEO_TS.BUP & VIDEO_TS.IFO files.

As previously mentioned by others I then ran FixVTS.
Dragged and dropped VTS_01_1.VOB on the window.
Checked 'In place (no backup!)'.
Clicked on 'Full DVD' and waited until FixVTS had done it's job.

Then I ran this batch file I created, maybe 12 months ago. 'demux_episodes.cmd'
I used it for M*A*S*H series 1-9. 27 disks. (VOBs for disk 27 listed above.)

You need to change the batch file to match your requirements.
Where the batch file reads VTS_01_1_..... may need to be changed to VTS_02_1_..... or VTS_03_1_.....

Also as previously mentioned, there are a number of reasons why the episode count does
not match the number of PGCs. Copyright warnings etc.
In this case you might add 1 to the count and start the count at 2.
If there are 6 episodes with a warning first, type 7 when asked.

In the batch file first change:
for /L %%b in (1,1,%count%) do (
to
for /L %%b in (2,1,%count%) do (

If all goes well you'll end up with a sub folder called Complete with the episodes in it.

This is all a bit 'suck it and see' and just my tuppence worth to this thread.

Thanks to you all for your time. ;)

@echo off
if exist Complete\*.* (del /q Complete\*.*) else md Complete
for %%a in ("*.ifo") do set ifo=%%a
set /p count=How many episodes are there to demux?

set /p demux=Demux video and audio to separate files (1) or a single VOB (2). (1,2)?
echo. && echo Demuxing %count% episodes. This will take some time. Please wait....
if %demux%==2 goto 2

:1
for /L %%b in (1,1,%count%) do (
echo episode_%%b.
pgcdemux.exe -vid %%b -m2v -aud -nosub -nocellt -nolog %ifo% Complete
ren "Complete\VideoFile.m2v" "episode_%%b.m2v"
ren "Complete\AudioFile_*.ac3" "episode_%%b_*.ac3"
)
goto msg01

:2
for /L %%b in (001,1,%count%) do (
echo episode_%%b.
pgcdemux.exe -vid %%b -customvob bnva -nom2v -noaud -nosub -nocellt -nolog %ifo% Complete
ren "Complete\VTS_01_1_00%%b.VOB" "episode_%%b.vob"
)
goto msg01


:msg01
echo. && echo Demux of %count% episodes complete.
echo Press any key to exit... && pause>nul

:end

[Chetwood]

You can't make it any more complicated and time consuming?

[CWR03]

Well, I see the problem, but I don't know how to fix it for you.

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/9726/dvdfabwindow.jpg

Do you see the one very large file and the several smaller ones that happen to be the same length as a typical TV show episode? If you can't follow the incredibly simple instructions already provided to you to rip each episode individually by actually selecting them, there's simply no hope for you.

[manono]

Yeah, the title 5 is what you get when you select 'Play All' or something similar in the menu. You want the individual episodes which you'll decrypt separately, each to its own folder. As CRW03 says, it should be pretty easy to figure out which they are.