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Xirix
18th February 2011, 18:53
At the moment, using Haali as my directshow renderer with the latest MPC-HC is my only option, none of the others seem to work to my needs, and it's been fine except one thing. (I used to use Overlay Mixer, but since my new graphics card, Overlay won't display video on secondary monitor, and certain .flv files will have a piece missing from them, instead showing my desktop when fullscreened.)

There's some weird small vertical lines that appear in certain videos, I checked the videos with other renderers and they were not there. I first noticed it happening on a few letters in subtitles.

I've included a particulary good example, look at the trees in the middle, there's a lot of these verticals lines. Does anyone know what settings I need to tweak to fix this?, I'm using the latest MPC-HC, and CCCP (Which are practically, or indeed, default settings)

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n59/Xirix/Lines.jpg

madshi
19th February 2011, 09:05
This is a known problem and unlikely to ever be fixed, as the Haali Video Renderer seems to be a pretty much dead project. There haven't been any serious bug fixes or improvements for a looooong time. Have you tried madVR? It's similar in concept to the Haali Video Renderer, and should have much better scaling quality.

Xirix
19th February 2011, 11:22
I have tried madVR briefly, but there were a few things I didn't know how to tweak, for instance I have a double monitor setup, I watch all my stuff on the Secondary larger monitor (Well, it's a Plasma, but that's irrelevant), and a lot of the time when trying to fullscreen, it will do it on both monitors, or spaz out and not do anything.

Also the seekbar at the bottom of MPC-HC changes with madVR for some reason.

Plus as a minor niggle, the OSD that doesn't seem to be disablable that says Windowed/Exclusive etc in the top left whenever you change aspect is kinda annoying, but mostly the first problem. Does madVR have a forum or something that I could get advice on settings?

nevcairiel
19th February 2011, 11:49
You can disable the exclusive mode, then the seekbar doesn't change, and the OSD messages have no reason to appear.

madshi
19th February 2011, 12:17
Yeah, as nevcairiel says, you can disable the exclusive mode in the madVR settings. Then madVR will behave similar to Haali's Video Renderer, which also doesn't have an exclusive mode. If you play around with madVR a bit, you may find the exclusive mode a useful improvement, though. Anyway, there's one thing the current madVR version requires you to do: You need to move MPC-HC to your plasma *BEFORE* you load the video file. If you load the video file first and then move MPC-HC to the plasma, then madVR will be confused and still think you want to display on your primary monitor. That might be the main reason why you ran into trouble with the exclusive mode. In a future version madVR will detect when you move the media player to another monitor, after playback already started, to fix this discomfort.

For madVR help you can post into the madVR thread:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146228

leeperry
19th February 2011, 19:24
the problem in the OP is due to a computing error in HR's scaler HLSL code...the same code from Haali was used in MPC-HC and was fixed there, but KMP stole it and it's got the exact same problem w/ EVR/VMR9. HR isn't developed anymore, finding an alternative VR is your best option...and mVR looks like the perfect candidate :cool:

Xirix
20th February 2011, 11:47
Ah okay, I'll disable exclusive mode and see how I get along with MadVR then, and I'll keep an eye out for that future version with the multi-monitor thing fixed, I'm sure I can tolerate opening files on the Plasma as long as everything else works for now ;)

Out of curiousity, what does exclusive mode do anyway?

Edit : Whoa okay, madvr is making my processor go mad, it's working, but is there a way to make it a bit less of a resource hog?