MPC-HC. can't drag video around by the screen in recent alpha builds..

[bledd]

Open MPC-HC

Press 3 (to reset the view)
Press Ctrl + 0 (to remove the surrounding, but keep the controls)

You can't drag the video around by the middle of the screen any more, you have to use the Controls or Time section to do it.

Can you please re-implement the ability to drag via the screen, or make it an optional selection in the playback menu.

Thanks,

bledd

-This is with nightly build 1.5.1.2935 and a few before it.

1.5.0.2827 (main release) doesn't have this feature/issue

[mr.duck]

To fix, go in options and go to keys. Play/pause will have mouse left click assigned to it. Delete that and just use spacebar or another mouse button for play/pause.

It works better this way anyway. At least, you will adjust if you don't like it after that.

[bledd]

Before, when not in full screen, you could drag it around. When in full screen it would pause if you clicked.

Now, it pauses 100% of the time..

Tried what you said, and it breaks the fullscreen pause

[mr.duck]

That's right. Use another key or button I said.

[Ger]

I assigned middle click to play/pause a while ago, as suggested in the MPC-HC thread a while ago (AFAIR by Mercury_22). I'm starting to get used to it now, and I think it's a keeper for me. If a touch pad is used it's easier to use the space bar anyway, so that's not really a problem either.

The added bonus with not using left click for play/pause is that double clicking to enter/exit full screen now doesn't accidentally trigger pause/play as well, and dragging the video frame works in all GUI modes.

[bobdynlan]

I assigned middle click to play/pause a while ago, as suggested in the MPC-HC thread a while ago (AFAIR by Mercury_22). I'm starting to get used to it now, and I think it's a keeper for me. If a touch pad is used it's easier to use the space bar anyway, so that's not really a problem either. You should not get used to that, standard behaviour should be left double-click to play/pause and middle click to full-screen (most track-pads use two-finger press to emulate middle click).

SMPlayer stands out with is dumb default assignment for middle click of Mute/Unmute.

[Ger]

Why? Who uses that? Most media players I've tried use double click for full screen, including web based Flash stuff etc.

[bobdynlan]

Leave out web based players, those will never use anything but left click. Middle click in any browser defaults to Auto Scroll.

"Most media players" you've tried must be some linux ports :) You can still find Linux GUIs that have troubles with mouse wheels. So media player developers did not jump on using them. On Windows, it always works. So Kmplayer used it, the more recent Potplayer used it, there must be more. And speaking of the mouse-wheel usage, Zoom Player beats them all with it's multi-mode... ages ago.

[Ger]

I still don't see it. The players you mentioned I tried once or twice, but didn't stick with them for one reason or another. Why would those relatively small players be able to establish a de-facto standard over Microsoft and the other big guns?

I have much more experience with WMP, VLC, WinAmp, DVBViewer, ProgDVB, MPC, MPC-HC and web browsers (still relevant when establishing a habit) than with either of the players you mentioned. Only one of those have Linux roots AFAIK. All use double click for full screen (unless i reassigned it at some point and forgot about it, which I doubt).

I also imagine WMP, WinAmp and VLC are the most popular players for the average Windows users, not that I know for sure, solely based on what I've seen on other peoples computers. Maybe some Apple stuff as well.

EDIT: BTW, I read your Google Translate poetry in ticket #1162 (http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/mpc-hc/ticket/1162). You're a real multi-talent. Developer, Graphics/UI designer, and now poet. I'm impressed. I have no intention of trying to understand the original meaning of anything in that ticket though. ;)

[bledd]

I'm not trying to create a rift here gents, just pointing out something that worked before for years in MPC and is now broken

Obviously the developers have control over it, adding it as an option somewhere would be great.

[Ger]

No worries, there's no rift. Just a disagreement on what's more common. Just because we are used to different things I guess. Not that it matters anyway as we can all use our own preferences.

If you read any sarcasm or anything like that into what I said to bobdynlan it was never meant like that, I was just acknowledging a funny remark he'd made. We just disagree on one specific issue. IIRC we are in full agreement on other hotkey issues. I honestly am very impressed by him. He managed to transform the MPC-HC GUI in a way few thought possible without a complete rewrite. I find myself missing those builds, but I had to move on from r2599 eventually. Hopefully they will be back one day, or better yet, the new default for MPC-HC.

I also understand your point that it's not exactly as it was before, but like mr. duck said, if you assign (and can get used to) another button than single LMB for play/pause you can drag in even more GUI configurations than before.

[mr.duck]

Why? Who uses that? Most media players I've tried use double click for full screen, including web based Flash stuff etc.

I agree with you. I am using middle click for pause now and mouse side button (X1 in MPC-HC) for mute. Double left click to fullscreen it.

It is more consistent and 'correct' since they made this change/update. Now it's been forced on us, I think it is better because you can double click to get out of fullscreen and not trigger a play pause.

[Mercury_22]

@bledd this has been discussed in MPC-HC main thread and AFAIR Tetsuo has promised to make some changes to some default keys but nothing has been done !
And since I see that are may other using "MDOWN" for Play/Pause maybe it's time for him to do something as he promised
Discussing which keys should be used by default is a never ending story of various user opinions.
I'm open to changing them but such a thing cannot be done without good preperation, as suddenly keys that worked for 6 years will fail for upgrading users (possibly millions of them)

So what to do:
Create a list of proposed default key changes, for each change explain in detail why the new key is the best possible solution ever.

PS. I will not accept "everyone else uses that key" as the main argument, but i will take it as a 2nd one.

PPS: please also take this chance to ask for things that currently cannot be assigned/changed

[bledd]

as he promised

Chill out mate, unless you've got paid support you shouldn't get arsey :D

[anyone23]

To fix, go in options and go to keys. Play/pause will have mouse left click assigned to it. Delete that and just use spacebar or another mouse button for play/pause.

It works better this way anyway. At least, you will adjust if you don't like it after that.

How do you do that?

Play/Pause is not assigned to mouse left click, but still it pauses the video. :confused:

Currently my MPC-HC is absolutely useless. It's either just a small window in the middle of my screen and I can't move it or the player is in fullscreen mode.

I just don't understand the Keys-Menu because it's so confusing. :confused:

[mr.duck]

Play/Pause is not assigned to mouse left click, but still it pauses the video. :confused:

Scroll to the right in that keys options window. It will have mouse left click assigned.