BD-Rebuilder

[auzorann]

hello, first post here. thank you for the great program and all the useful posts here.

i do have a question though. i've been using bd-rb to shrink a bluray above 25gb to fit onto a 25gb disk and it seems to work perfectly on my pc. the playback is even great. the problem i'm having is the disk doesn't play in a magnavox bluray player. the player will play a standard size bluray backup perfectly but it doesn't play the movies i've shrank to fit onto a standard size bluray disk.

what's the difference between a regular bluray backup and a backup that's been shrank?

thanks

[Ch3vr0n]

There is no difference except the size. Your player probably just doesnt like the blanks you're using. Whats the brand ?

[auzorann]

There is no difference except the size. Your player probably just doesnt like the blanks you're using. Whats the brand ?

optical quantum. it's can't be the disks because it will play a standard 25gb bluray backup on the same disks. yet when i use bd-rb to shrink a large bluray to fit on a 25gb disk it doesn't work.

[jdobbs]

What software are you using to burn them, and are they formatted properly? Blu-ray needs some special settings. If you're not using ImgBurn -- that's probably the issue. The best bet is to let BD Rebuilder do the burning via ImgBurn.

[auzorann]

What software are you using to burn them, and are they formatted properly? Blu-ray needs some special settings. If you're not using ImgBurn -- that's probably the issue.

yeah i'm using imgburn and i'm burning them exactly the same way i would burn a standard size bluray backup. after the first couple didn't work i went back and check the versions of all the programs that are suggested i have. some of them were newer than what was recommended so i installed the exact versions suggested. it didn't seem to make a difference though.

[jdobbs]

Well it can't be exactly the same -- or they would work exactly the same. I'd guess you are copying/burning ISO files for a backup that doesn't need compression (if you're not, I'd recommend you do).

Are you doing movie-only backups or full backups? I've never had any reports that I can remember of problems of playback with 25GB backups. Some players have problems with DVD-9 full backups, but BD-R should never be an issue.

I do seem to recall someone mentioning an issue once before with the disc-type of the output and having to change something in ImgBurn (I can't remember the details, though) -- does your player see it as a BD-R or BD-ROM when it tries to play it?

[auzorann]

Well it can't be exactly the same -- or they would work exactly the same. Are you doing movie-only backups or full backups?

full backups. yes, i'm burning them both exactly the same way. there's no difference in the method i use to burn a standard backup and a backup made by bd-rb. maybe bd-rb leaves something out that i'm supposed to add manually? all i know is that when i use bd-rb the disk won't work in a standalone player. it will only work on my pc.

[jdobbs]

Look at my added/edited comments. Hopefully whomever had the disc-type issue will speak up and make a recommendation. It still doesn't make much sense, though, as you're saying you're burning both from a folder containing BDMV and CERTIFICATE files.

[auzorann]

Well it can't be exactly the same -- or they would work exactly the same. I'd guess you are copying/burning ISO files for a backup that doesn't need compression (if you're not, I'd recommend you do).

Are you doing movie-only backups or full backups? I've never had any reports that I can remember of problems of playback with 25GB backups. Some players have problems with DVD-9 full backups, but BD-R should never be an issue.

if the movie doesn't need any compression then i just rip it and burn it to a disk and it always works. only after it's compressed using bd-rb do i get problems. do the files that bd-rb creates need to be converted to an ISO before burning? i'm using the file method.

[auzorann]

Look at my added/edited comments. Hopefully whomever had the disc-type issue will speak up and make a recommendation.

honestly, i'm not sure. the player isn't with me now but i will be able to check this evening.

[auzorann]

oh i forgot to mention something that's probably important lol. i can't believe i forgot. the disk will load and it will play anything that's before the menu like trailers. it just won't play the movie. sometimes i can even get the popup menu to load.

[Capsbackup]

Burning the folders or creating an ISO first with ImgBurn and then burning to disc should not matter, as long as UDF 2.50 is selected. ( which ImgBurn does automatically )
If you are pre-processing or post-processing the BD-RB backup, this is most likely the issue.
Unfortunately for you, Magnavox is not one of the most compatible Blu-ray players available, but I would suggest you take one or a few of these already created backup discs to a local retailer and test them on some other players to see if your issue happens on some other mfg's Blu-ray players. ( like Sony, Samsung, LG, etc...) :)

[auzorann]

Burning the folders or creating an ISO first with ImgBurn and then burning to disc should not matter, as long as UDF 2.50 is selected. ( which ImgBurn does automatically )
If you are pre-processing or post-processing the BD-RB backup, this is most likely the issue.
Unfortunately for you, Magnavox is not one of the most compatible Blu-ray players available, but I would suggest you take one or a few of these already created backup discs to a local retailer and test them on some other players to see if your issue happens on some other mfg's Blu-ray players. ( like Sony, Samsung, LG, etc...) :)

you're right. i'll have to do that. thanks.

[auzorann]

i've been comparing the files of a bluray before and after compressing with bd-rb and the only difference i can see is file size. i've been trying to figure out where the problem could be. if i rip a 25gb bluray straight from the disk to my hard drive and burn it with imgburn it works perfectly. if i have a bluray that's more than 25gb and i compress it using bd-rb it and burn it using imgburn it doesn't work. it could be a compatibility issue but why would it play a burned standard 25gb bluray?

[jdobbs]

i've been comparing the files of a bluray before and after compressing with bd-rb and the only difference i can see is file size. i've been trying to figure out where the problem could be. if i rip a 25gb bluray straight from the disk to my hard drive and burn it with imgburn it works perfectly. if i have a bluray that's more than 25gb and i compress it using bd-rb it and burn it using imgburn it doesn't work. it could be a compatibility issue but why would it play a burned standard 25gb bluray? Unfortunately yours seems to be the only report of that problem. There are only two things I can think that would make a difference. First would be whether the output type is BD-R or BD-ROM (on mine it is BD-R). Second would be if it isn't being written as UDF 2.5... but I think you've said you do that.

The CERTIFICATE folde is present on the output, correct?

[auzorann]

Unfortunately yours seems to be the only report of that problem. There are only two things I can think that would make a difference. First would be whether the output type is BD-R or BD-ROM (on mine it is BD-R). Second would be if it isn't being written as UDF 2.5... but I think you've said you do that.

The CERTIFICATE folde is present on the output, correct?

yeah the certificate folder is there. i'm new to this stuff but all the files seem to be there.

how would i know if the output type is set to bd-r? is that a setting in bd-rb or imgburn?

[auzorann]

i just learned about inspect.exe. i ran it and it said ffdshow vc-1 was set incorrectly. i changed ffdshow vc-1 to wmv9 and now it says ok. i'm not sure if this would have made any difference but i thought i should mention it.

[jdobbs]

i just learned about inspect.exe. i ran it and it said ffdshow vc-1 was set incorrectly. i changed ffdshow vc-1 to wmv9 and now it says ok. i'm not sure if this would have made any difference but i thought i should mention it. Yes it could make a difference but I'm not sure how in the problem you are describing.

[laserfan]

oh i forgot to mention something that's probably important lol. i can't believe i forgot. the disk will load and it will play anything that's before the menu like trailers. it just won't play the movie. sometimes i can even get the popup menu to load.
Maybe this is way off-base, but it sounds suspiciously like a problem that existed in mrr19121970's Clown_BD BD Copier, which he fixed in v0.39. Here's what he said: (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1459102#post1459102)

"clearly some players (Arcsoft TMT5 included) strongly object to MPLS instead of mpls. The PS3 and PowerDVD are obviously more forgiving. "

Some standalone players were problematic as well. Not sure if BD-RB uses .MPLS at all so apologize in advance if this has no bearing...

[Capsbackup]

I have checked some original Blu-ray rips from AnyDVD HD, and they are lower case just as BD-RB backups are. :cool:

[Reaper Man]

oh i forgot to mention something that's probably important lol. i can't believe i forgot. the disk will load and it will play anything that's before the menu like trailers. it just won't play the movie. sometimes i can even get the popup menu to load.

It seems that I have run into the same problem recently. I don't pre-process nor post-processing...
Anydvd rip: BD-Rebuild: Image Burn ...
I also use Optical Quantum..(I don't think they are bad disks).
I have a Seiki BD660 and an LG BD 550.

Related?...I've tried making AVCHD burns(Memorex DVD-9)..but get a loading, then blank screen for my efforts.
Lg tries to load as AVCD and the Seiki says its BDMV..?


To auzorann:, I had success in playing such a disk by jumping to Chapters Selection" and then watching the movie.

If I have time in the next few weeks, I'll mess about trying again.

[auzorann]

It seems that I have run into the same problem recently. I don't pre-process nor post-processing...
Anydvd rip: BD-Rebuild: Image Burn ...
I also use Optical Quantum..(I don't think they are bad disks).
I have a Seiki BD660 and an LG BD 550.

Related?...I've tried making AVCHD burns(Memorex DVD-9)..but get a loading, then blank screen for my efforts.
Lg tries to load as AVCD and the Seiki says its BDMV..?


To auzorann:, I had success in playing such a disk by jumping to Chapters Selection" and then watching the movie.

If I have time in the next few weeks, I'll mess about trying again.

hey man i've since fixed the problem. i can't remember which one it was but i reinstalled either avisynth, haali media splitter or ffdshow. just make sure you reinstall with the correct version listed on this site.

since doing this i haven't had a bad burn yet. except for friday the 13th (2009). i can't copy that one no matter what for some reason lol.

[setarip_old]

Originally: after the first couple didn't work i went back and check the versions of all the programs that are suggested i have. some of them were newer than what was recommended so i installed the exact versions suggested. it didn't seem to make a difference though.

Now: hey man i've since fixed the problem. i can't remember which one it was but i reinstalled either avisynth, haali media splitter or ffdshow. just make sure you reinstall with the correct version listed on this site.

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