Premiere Pro Direct Stream Copy of MPEG?

[Undead Sega]

As the title suggests, in recent years with NLEs, one is able to import an MPEG file into an editor and edit with it with absolutely no problem.

However when it comes to exporting, there is no option to export as an MPEG itself, you have different options of compression and even lossless or uncompressed choices, but there are many who (edits without the appliance of filters) wants a pure untouch stream of their edit in the timeline. This would also make it useful for some Avisynth users who wants this so they can use more efficient and powerful filters from Avisynth itself so they can work without any post-processing done already.

I was wondering if this is possible yet by any chance? Or if there is any filter or plugin for something like Premiere Pro that is able to do this (the closest thing I use often is DebugMode Frameserver which is very handy as sometimes Premiere Pro doesnt have a wider choice to export and it can save time from generating files all the time whereas all you want is to process it directly from the timeline) very much in the manner of VideoReDo :D

[poisondeathray]

If you mean "smart rendering" like videoredo does (i.e. pass through of untouched segments & cuts editing - only transitions, effects need rendering) , then you need the mainconcept premiere plugin (it's separate)

For import you an use avs import plugin (works in CS4 and below, buggy for CS5) , but as soon as you use avisynth, everything is uncompressed, so you need rendering anyway (i.e. no smart rendering or direct stream copy - same as in vdub when you use avisynth)

[Undead Sega]

Thanks very much for that, I managed to get myself to have a go of it but I am having problems trying to get this 'Smart Rendering' with Premiere Pro CS3. I have tried everything I cant seem to get any export to do 'Smart Rendering' all the options are wanting me to re-encode, even creating a project with MPEG Pro HD as the renderer, I dont even know if 'Smart Rendering' is even an option or like a tick box in here. I'm very confused about all of this.

[poisondeathray]

Hi - I don't use that plugin myself, but I know for a fact that other people have used it successfully with CS3

It had problems on CS4 smart rending, but they eventually fixed it after a long time

You might want to contact Mainconcept for support

[Undead Sega]

I see, what plugin do you use by any chance?

And yes, I've read that there was problems with CS4 but that's been patched up I believe with one of their newer revisions, everything's now moved to MainConcept Codec Suite which is the 'sucessor' to MPEG Pro HD but it only supports CS5, with that being only 64bit.

[poisondeathray]

I see, what plugin do you use by any chance?


I usually don't premiere for this scenario, and if I do use premiere, I usually do editing plus other stuff (color correction etc... so I have to render anyways which makes smart rendering moot)

For simple cuts type editing, I've used videoredo for a few years and happy with it


And yes, I've read that there was problems with CS4 but that's been patched up I believe with one of their newer revisions, everything's now moved to MainConcept Codec Suite which is the 'sucessor' to MPEG Pro HD but it only supports CS5, with that being only 64bit.

Yes it has, I've heard of other people using it successfully (smart rendering for CS3 & CS4) , that's why I suggested it earlier.

The CS5 plugin version apparently has AVC smart rendering soon to be implemented as well - I may buy that one if they ever get it working (the videoredo beta doesn't work on everything AVC and is still buggy)