BD-Rebuilder recommended setting for Full disk BD25 Encode

[DVD_fan]

Hi guys,

I wonder if you can recommend setting you use for full disk BD50 to BD25 backup?

I want to encode full disk including menus just cutting out languages I do not need.

I've noticed some of you mention 2 pass encoding but I only seem to get 1 pass (Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 1 of 1) How do you setup BD rebuilder to do a 2 pass encode?

Is there really big difference between High quality and Highest setting for the encoded when it comes to encode quality?

I am sure I will get more questions along the way.
Hopefully you would not mind to help me out.

Thanks!

[jdobbs]

Set the quality to automatic. If you set it to "High" you'll just be encoding with more bitrate than "High" needs -- and you'll take about 2-4x as long to encode something that won't look any better. If automatic selects one-pass, then that's all you need. Two pass will be selected when BD-RB senses that it is necessary by what it sees as a source.

But, if you're determined to do a two-pass, uncheck "Automatic", then click again and choose one of the quality levels (or better yet, leave it where it is). Make sure "ABR" and "CRF" (the one pass modes) are unchecked (you can uncheck with a mouse click). Two pass is the result.

Highest is never really needed... I put it in there for people who just can't resist overkill.

[DVD_fan]

Hi jdobbs,

Thanks a lot for your advice! I think I will tweak Auto setting by adding bias towards quality using options in INI file.

I have another question. I have problem converting EUR BD releases with multiple languages tracks. I am trying to convert Madagascar 2 to BD25 keeping few selected languages. When conversion is finished all languages apart from English HD audio track seem to get mixed and when I change language to English I can hear director’s commentary and other language at the same time and it is also jiggery. Video seems to be ok.

I had initially used BD Rebuilder version 0.36.09 installed not recommended versions of Haali splitter and FFDSHOW. I got them from Videohelp.com
I was able to encode about dozen BD’s until I tried Madagascar 2. After I experienced above mentioned issue I found your original thread here and uninstalled Haali and FFDSHOW. I’ve also changed all setting and Inspect.exe not coming up with any errors. I also downloaded your latest beta 0.37.01
Unfortunately it didn’t help my problem…

This disk has 9 audio tracks including director’s commentary. When I run movie in Arcsoft TMT3 I can see 9 audio tracks. But BD Rebuilder shows 10 and one English stereo plus track looks a bit dodgy and I cannot delete it. (Please see screenshot)

Where disk only have two languages I have no problems. But when disk has multiple languages I run into some strange problems with audio tracks. I did not install any new software apart from re-installing Haali and FFDSHOW for approved versions. I also deleted all folders in program files and rebooted my PC.

I am also having strange issues in other encodes with wrong language traks being deleted. What could cause such issues and how can I fix it?

I am posting my problem here as I am not sure if it is my bug or BD rebuilder’s. Please let me know if it is more suitable for bug report thread and I will move it there.


I am trying to figure out where this problem could come from. I have not installed any additional codecs to my Win7 64bit but this installation is quite old. I am running test encode on my clean installation of Win XP on my laptop to rule out any conflicting software.


Thanks a lot for your great application and support!

I attached log for Madagascar 2 which has problem I described above. Second log is for another movie in which wrong Audio tracks have been deleted and tracks I did not need were kept...


Here is mi inspect.exe status:

- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.37.0.1, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

[jdobbs]

Sorry but you need to try it with the original disc -- those preprocessed sources are often incorrectly assembled.

[DVD_fan]

Me again,

I am trying to run test encode to see if I disk will encode ok.

What setting do I need to change to get fastest possible encode if I did not care foe quality at all?

Which mode is faster Good (very fast) or High speed Option (BD 25)?

I am assuming I also need to check on of the 1 pass options and faster encode for extras?

Thanks!

[jdobbs]

High speed Option (BD 25).

[DVD_fan]

Thanks jdobbs!

I come across couple of other questions...

Coming back to the question before previous... I've noticed trend that I have problem with audio track depending on the studio that made movie and added it on BD.

For example I too often have problems compressing Disney and 20th century BD's when Universal always compressed with no problem...

On Disney movies I get wrong tracks deleted and for some reasons on 20th all tracks stay in despite I have selected some to be deleted. I wonder if to do something with the way they author their BD's? I thinks it could not be explained with bad source...

One small other question: it there a way to see / setup which version of X264 is used? I have 64bit Win 7. Do I need to set BD Rebuilder to use 64Bit version of X264?

[jdobbs]

I've never gotten a wrong audio track, and I've done about every BD there is -- including a lot of Disney.

You shouldn't change the versions out that are included. If you tried to replace X264.EXE with the 64 bit version BD Rebuilder would stop working and you'd get encode errors. The 64 bit version is included in the TOOLS path, and if you select LAVF (from SETUP) it wil be used whenever possible.

[DVD_fan]

I am wondering if it can be due to the fact that I am using EUR releases? They usually have 6 to 10 differnt languages.

It is a bit strange when I add folder to rebuild all langages I don't need disabled with red cross but as soon as encode started all languafes are shown as on and when encoded finished all languages present...

This picture is after filder was added before rebuild:
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/1579/rb1x.jpg (http://img703.imageshack.us/i/rb1x.jpg/)



This picture is after rebuild strted:
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/4854/rb2a.jpg (http://img405.imageshack.us/i/rb2a.jpg/)

What could be causing this?

[jdobbs]

The only way I can see you getting something other than what you select is if you start, stop, change the settings and restart. When doing that the original settings will be restored at restart.

Also, when doing batch the selections are whatever was set at the moment you added it to the batch queue. If you change it after that, it will be reloaded to the saved settings when that particular batch job starts. That looks like what is happening in your example -- and that's how it is supposed to work.

[DVD_fan]

Thanks jdobbs,

Not sure that would explain it in my scenario…
I was just encoding this one disk in this example and I am pretty sure I did not change anything after job was added…

If I set BD Rebuilder to no compression by setting custom size to 48000MB I can strip off unwanted languages from the same disk…
I think I’ll try stripping off languages with BD Rebuilder first and then compressing output to BD25…

Not sure if it something with my Win7 system, source or something else.

I’ll try and run test encode on clean Win XP in my test laptop…

[DMagic1]

I've noticed something. If I select High speed Option (BD 25) and have "ABR" and "CRF" (the one pass modes) unchecked. I expect to get a two passes which BDRebuilder seems to do but the first pass completes almost instantly.
Surely, high speed or not it didnt do a pass on a 2 hour movie instantly? Am I missing something here? All the other options two pass works as expected.

Also will the Very Fast option give basically the same results(maybe slightly better) as the High Speed BD25 option?

[jdobbs]

I am wondering if it can be due to the fact that I am using EUR releases? They usually have 6 to 10 differnt languages.

It is a bit strange when I add folder to rebuild all langages I don't need disabled with red cross but as soon as encode started all languafes are shown as on and when encoded finished all languages present...

This picture is after filder was added before rebuild:
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/1579/rb1x.jpg (http://img703.imageshack.us/i/rb1x.jpg/)



This picture is after rebuild strted:
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/4854/rb2a.jpg (http://img405.imageshack.us/i/rb2a.jpg/)

What could be causing this? That's because you are running in Batch mode -- and the audio is reset to what you had selected at the point you added the job to the batch queue. It has to do that -- otherwise the job would always revert to what you have defaulted in the SETUP dialog rather than any changes made.

[DVD_fan]

Thanks jdobbs,

It seems it has something to do with batch mode.

Here is what happens:
I have setup preferences to just keep 3 selected languages. I add just one movie => In the stream window it shows language tracks. Proper tracks kept and tracks I do not need disabled. I add this movie to the batch => Start batch. When I start batch program switches to log window=>I switch back to Stream window and all tracks are enabled.

If I just start encoding from Stream window and not adding it to batch everything is ok all languages I need are kept and the ones I do not need are disabled.

I do not change any setting or manually disabling any languages. There is just one movie I play with in batch mode or stream…

Not sure why this happens but I get problem when compressing some movies in batch mode.

[jdobbs]

Thanks jdobbs,

It seems it has something to do with batch mode.

Here is what happens:
I have setup preferences to just keep 3 selected languages. I add just one movie => In the stream window it shows language tracks. Proper tracks kept and tracks I do not need disabled. I add this movie to the batch => Start batch. When I start batch program switches to log window=>I switch back to Stream window and all tracks are enabled.

If I just start encoding from Stream window and not adding it to batch everything is ok all languages I need are kept and the ones I do not need are disabled.

I do not change any setting or manually disabling any languages. There is just one movie I play with in batch mode or stream…

Not sure why this happens but I get problem when compressing some movies in batch mode. I don't get it??? I just ran it though about 10 times... setting and unsetting... and every time it keeps exactly what I had selected when I added it to the batch queue.

[DVD_fan]

It dosen't happen on all movies just on some of them where there 5 or more dufferent languages. (Cloudy with a chance of meatballs, Mirrors, Minority report)

[jdobbs]

It dosen't happen on all movies just on some of them where there 5 or more dufferent languages. (Cloudy with a chance of meatballs, Mirrors, Minority report) I finally found one where I can repeat it ("Toy Story 3"). I should be able to find it and fix it now.

[DVD_fan]

Thanks jdobbs!
I thought it could not be just my system or disks as I was getting this problem on too many disks...

[jdobbs]

Thanks jdobbs!
I thought it could not be just my system or disks as I was getting this problem on too many disks... I fixed it.

[DVD_fan]

Thanks jdobbs,

Is updated version on first page of Bug report thread now?
I've noticed that version didn’t change.

[jdobbs]

Thanks jdobbs,

Is updated version on first page of Bug report thread now?
I've noticed that version didn’t change. The version changes with every release. The latest was released on Jan 16th and is 0.37.03. Make sure you browser isn't caching and showing you an old page.

The fix will be in v0.37.04. I always group together several changes/fixes before releasing a new version.

I should have said "I've fixed it for the next release."