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netmask
5th January 2011, 01:33
I have a few very old DVD-R's in my collection of family scenes originally transferred from a long defunct VHS player - tapes have gone to God as well...

The discs play ok in my Soniq BluRay/DVD QPB302B player ok. However on any of my computers they lock up the system so I can't copy them. I have tried MagicISO and ISOBuster but to no avail - still locks up requiring a reboot. Any suggestions? As a last option I will play them off in real time and capture them with my hardware MPEG2 device..... but :eek:

setarip_old
5th January 2011, 09:48
Hi!

If you hadn't stated that these are homebrewn discs, I would have bet that they were copy protected, including an autorun file of some type.

I'd suggest you try "ISOPuzzle"...

netmask
5th January 2011, 10:04
Thanks I will give that a go and no just home made VHS tape originally and transferred using probably version1 of Ulead (yuk!) and burnt to Verbatim disks. It's generally the other way around, play on computer and not the DVD player in the living room. I nearly added the line no region coding or protection, I'm a great believer in the opposite of "too much information!" never enough IMO.... It's interesting that the moment the disc goes into the drive everything stops except for the relentless green ribbon across the top of any folder that is open (Windows 7) No access via control alt delete Nada!

Ghitulescu
5th January 2011, 15:40
The best readers are still the LG DVD-burners, try one of them.

2Bdecided
5th January 2011, 16:41
Definitely try different PC drives, and maybe a different OS. Disable autoplay.

netmask
5th January 2011, 21:28
Thanks - I have a LG burner and autoplay is disabled on all my computers! These @#$% discs even lock up my old MAC4. Also ISOPuzzle didn't solve the problem. Alas! methinks I will have to capture in real time unless there is another way...

Ghitulescu
6th January 2011, 07:56
Could you explain better what and when the systems lock up? Step by step ....

netmask
6th January 2011, 08:11
After you insert the disc and go to file explorer and click on anything it freezes. If you run say ISObuster first and then insert the disc the system freezes almost immediately to the extent that you can't even do a control alt delete. It only happens on these 2 discs. Autoplay is off (on all my machines) running AVG and have a very secure system. GRC site reports I don't exist (stealth). These disks were created by Ulead and all have a 3rd folder called ULEADMF containing a couple of bmp files. (I know this because one disk within the collection of 3 plays ok). I have got to the point that I don't think there is a solution other than capture or disabling some aspect of the operating system (common to PC and MAC)???? Thanks for all the suggestions..

Ghitulescu
6th January 2011, 09:35
After you insert the disc and go to file explorer and click on anything it freezes. If you run say ISObuster first and then insert the disc the system freezes almost immediately to the extent that you can't even do a control alt delete. It only happens on these 2 discs. Autoplay is off (on all my machines) running AVG and have a very secure system. GRC site reports I don't exist (stealth). These disks were created by Ulead and all have a 3rd folder called ULEADMF containing a couple of bmp files. (I know this because one disk within the collection of 3 plays ok). I have got to the point that I don't think there is a solution other than capture or disabling some aspect of the operating system (common to PC and MAC)???? Thanks for all the suggestions..

Why do you need to open explorer? Just insert the DVDR and see what happens. If the PC/mac doesn't lock up, fire up a ripper of your choice (even DVD shrink should work as it's unprotected) and see if it locks up at disk/drive access. Instead one can use ImgBurn in reading mode. If it still doesn't lock, try reading the disk.

Maybe your reader/drive is broken, try another one.

netmask
6th January 2011, 10:14
I really have answered all of those questions - whether I open My Computer and look at the drives or don't open any file explorer the computer freezes just by inserting the discs. The drive is less than 6 months old and doesn't do this on any other discs. In the last hour I took the discs to a friends place and they do exactly the same thing on his XP box. They play on his standalone Pioneer player. The point is they once worked and copies had been made. So all I can think is there is some damage not visible under high magnification that is playing havoc with computer systems but not standalone units....

Tried it on my Asus laptop, exactly the same. If you insert the disc into any machine everything is disabled. Start some software, anything you like insert one of the discs and same action.

I've given up this bone! Setting up the Dvico MPEG USB capture device....

Ghitulescu
6th January 2011, 11:42
I really have answered all of those questions

No, you said
1. insert disk then look it up in Explorer, at which point the PC freezes
2. you have isobuster already launched and insert the dvd, at which point again the PC freezes

I suggested howevere
3. fire up windows then insert the DVD. Wait for the drive LED to stabilize (if). Close all explorer windows, let just the bare minimum. I don't know W7, but I assume it access somehow the disk in background.

If it freezes again, you have a drive-disk problem (HW). If it freezes only after a SW access it, then it's a SO/SW problem - it would make sense to change the default ASPI manager to SPTI or use the Nero's default (wnaspi.dll).