backup dvd playback

[ronb49]

i have just started to backup my dvd collection so i can put the original away for safekeeping. my problem is when i backup just the movie, it plays funny on my dvd player. some will start in the middle of the movie and just go to the end. i have two dvd players a pansonic 5 disk player and a sony recorder/player. i have been using dvdfab hd and dvdfab passkey. anybody have any sugestions? when i play them on my computer using vlc, power dvd, windows player they work fine.

thanks

[yetanotherid]

You're backing the DVDs up to DVD format or are you converting them to some other format? Your DVD player isn't DivX/AVI capable?

Given you have three players which have the same problem with the discs, maybe try another program. I use RipIt4Me. It's old but works fine for 99% of the DVDs I backup. It requires DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink to be installed as it uses those programs to do the ripping work. You'll find them all via Google.

If the program you're using rips the original DVDs to your hard drive before burning the backup and you still have those files, you could try re-authoring them with DVD Shrink and burning the backups it creates to DVD.

[Ghitulescu]

i have just started to backup my dvd collection so i can put the original away for safekeeping. my problem is when i backup just the movie, it plays funny on my dvd player. some will start in the middle of the movie and just go to the end. i have two dvd players a pansonic 5 disk player and a sony recorder/player. i have been using dvdfab hd and dvdfab passkey. anybody have any sugestions? when i play them on my computer using vlc, power dvd, windows player they work fine.
How did you rip the DVDs?

You're backing the DVDs up to DVD format or are you converting them to some other format?

Given you have three players which have the same problem with the discs, maybe try another program. I use RipIt4Me. It's old but works fine for 99% of the DVDs I backup. It requires DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink to be installed as it uses those programs to do the ripping work. You'll find them all via Google.

If the program you're using rips the original DVDs to your hard drive before burning the backup and you still have those files, you could try re-authoring them with DVD Shrink and burning the backups it creates to DVD.
Backup means backup. A lot of people improperly use this term for backup+conversion to divx/xvid/h.264.

I also use ripit4me, never had any insurmontable problem, even with Disney (they need to be worked out after). I also use much older rippers with the same results - I want only the movie, not the menus and extras. For full DVDs, no, they cannot face many new protected DVDs.

However, your solution with dvd shink is a good one, it usually checks the DVD too, so one will know from the beginning whether there's a problem or not.

[yetanotherid]

Backup means backup. A lot of people improperly use this term for backup+conversion to divx/xvid/h.264.

I guess it depends on your viewpoint.
In my case, an AVI is a useful copy but not really a backup, while for me a backup means converting to anamorphic x264 to keep the file sizes down and to have a more useful/versatile copy. In fact once I've converted a video to anamorphic x264, the original DVD goes into storage and it effectively becomes the backup.

What happens if you have to re-encode the DVD (shrink it) to fit the movie on a blank disc? Is it more of a backup than an x264 re-encode which allows you to burn two movies to the same blank disc?

[Ghitulescu]

Redefining words to suit your needs is a nice thing. But think it vice-versa-lly: how about your bank account being "backuped" into a smaller "size" because this is how your bank defines "backup"?

Leaving the joke apart, backup means a 1:1 copy, it doesn't count the next operations (ZIP/RAR, multiple disks etc.), as long as the "restore" function provides you with the intact data. It's a term with a definite meaning.

For what you and the OP think that's a backup, maybe the correct term would be "working copy".

[yetanotherid]

Leaving the joke apart, backup means a 1:1 copy, it doesn't count the next operations (ZIP/RAR, multiple disks etc.), as long as the "restore" function provides you with the intact data. It's a term with a definite meaning.

I don't want a 1:1 backup of a DVD. Why would I want a 1:1 backup of an archaic format when I can create a more usable copy and keep the original archaic format to server as a backup should I ever need to replace the more usable copy again?

For what you and the OP think that's a backup, maybe the correct term would be "working copy".

No, if it's okay with you I'll consider it an anamorphic x264 copy as a backup and your view as living in the dark ages.

[yetanotherid]

Or to put it another way for those who think the disc is a wonderful idea.....

I never buy a DVD and view it as the original because I never want to buy a DVD. I look at the DVD as the source, which I keep as a backup, and the anamorphic x264 cropped/de-interlaced encode as my original copy.... which I can replace if need be because I kept the archaic backup source I originally purchased and from which my copy was made.

[Ghitulescu]

Because your supercallifragillisticexpialidocius x264 backup originates from an arhaic master. Recording a phone conversation in 7.1 channels DTS MA won't make it high definition.
I'd prefer the dark age :)

[yetanotherid]

Because your supercallifragillisticexpialidocius x264 backup originates from an arhaic master. Recording a phone conversation in 7.1 channels DTS MA won't make it high definition.
I'd prefer the dark age :)

I don't recall claiming it would. Did I say something to give you that impression or are you resorting to putting words in my mouth in order to offer a counter-argument.

[ronb49]

i have been using DVDShrink and if i reauther just the movie it won't playback correctly on some disks. some of my older movies that i have backed up just the main movie play fine. i have also used DVDFab and RIPITFORME with the same problem.

[Ghitulescu]

There might be residuals of a copyprotection, like eg small cells at the beginning or ending of the PGC. You may want to get rid of these. But without any info it's hard to tell

[Wantangobi]

A re-encoded movie is still a backup. It's just not a duplicate. I used to backup my old VHS tapes on another VHS tape. The backup was of poorer quality, but was still a backup. I did the same with my cds on audio cassettes. 1-1 backups for consumers were pretty much impossible until recently(like 15 years :p).