Lighthouses of the Pacific Northwest - Blu-ray Test Footage

[Biggiesized]

If any of you know Stacey Spears in a professional or personal capacity, please send him your thanks. :thanks:

Stacey shot this footage for his newest Blu-ray release, Lighthouses of the Pacific Northwest.

http://upload.hattix.co.uk/files/lighthouse_frontcover.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/Lighthouses-Pacific-Northwest-Blu-ray-Stacey/dp/B0043TY5GO/)

Please visit his website at www.lighthousesof.com for more information.

Source information:
Camera: RED One Digital Cinema Camera
Frame rate: 23.976 fps (progressive)
No. frames: 2852
Resolution: 1920x1080
Color subsampling: 4:2:0
FourCC: IYUV/I420
Container: Raw YUV
Color conversion: ITU-R Recommendation BT.709 (SMPTE 274M)
Original files contact: stacey [at] spearsandmunsil [dot] com
Restrictions of use: Encoder testing only. No right to redistribute the source in any form for the purpose of commercial gain.
Copyright: Copyright Stacey Spears
Date of Recording: 2009
Source: Stacey Spears


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Source Download:
http://rapidshare.com/files/431994422/1920x1080p24_Chapter_01_000102_002953_Video_IYUV.7z.001
http://rapidshare.com/files/431994464/1920x1080p24_Chapter_01_000102_002953_Video_IYUV.7z.002
http://rapidshare.com/files/431994447/1920x1080p24_Chapter_01_000102_002953_Video_IYUV.7z.003
http://rapidshare.com/files/431994455/1920x1080p24_Chapter_01_000102_002953_Video_IYUV.7z.004
http://rapidshare.com/files/431994470/1920x1080p24_Chapter_01_000102_002953_Video_IYUV.7z.005
http://rapidshare.com/files/431994468/1920x1080p24_Chapter_01_000102_002953_Video_IYUV.7z.006
http://rapidshare.com/files/431993279/1920x1080p24_Chapter_01_000102_002953_Video_IYUV.7z.007

Files are split into 500,000,000 byte chunks.

md5 checksum:
bda76236651479744bd2beb3a1e65e85

[kieranrk]

With all due respect rapidshare links are totally useless. Please could you use a better file hoster like mediafire or torrent file or similar.

[Biggiesized]

Why are they useless? My university connection times out if I try to upload it anywhere else.

I could create a torrent, but that would require me to have my computer run 24/7.

[kieranrk]

Why are they useless? My university connection times out if I try to upload it anywhere else.


I can't even download the thing. It says no servers are available. On the rare occasions when it does work speeds are glacial. This happens for pretty much everybody.

If you want I can let you upload it to an FTP server. (will probably have to ask someone on a fast link to make it into a torrent or something)

[bnshrdr]

Why are they useless? My university connection times out if I try to upload it anywhere else.

I could create a torrent, but that would require me to have my computer run 24/7.

Not once at least one other person seeds it once they download it. I'm sure someone around here would volunteer.

[Dark Shikari]

Why are they useless?Because Rapidshare caps you to one download per day if you're lucky enough to get a download at all?

[Audionut]

I've got an FTP server capable of 250mbits if you want.

Or if you create a torrent I'll grab it and help seed from the same server.

PM me for ftp details if you wish.

[Biggiesized]

Someone PM'd me with FTP details. I will put it up there. Give me about an hour.

EDIT: Uploading now, but FTP transfers are much slower for me than uploading to Rapidshare.

[Biggiesized]

Because Rapidshare caps you to one download per day if you're lucky enough to get a download at all?
Hrmm... I only get timed caps of about 20 minutes before I can download again.

[Biggiesized]

My FTP upload keeps timing out and resetting itself after 2 hours straight of trying. Someone has already downloaded the entire sequence. Would that person mind hosting it on their own FTP server or possibly uploading it to TheFluff's?

Here is his contact information: http://forum.doom9.org/member.php?u=59238

[TheRyuu]

Hrmm... I only get timed caps of about 20 minutes before I can download again.

Yea, so each download is going to go slow as shit plus 20 minutes in between each download = too much :effort: to try and download it.

Rapidshare has sucked, sucks now, and probably always will suck.

[Przemek_Sperling]

I could create a torrent, but that would require me to have my computer run 24/7.

Not really, you can always use BurnBit http://burnbit.com

[Przemek_Sperling]

I think that Wuala (www.wuala.com) is the best for such sharing. Just download and install Wuala, use coupons from http://www.retailmenot.com/view/wuala.com to make it larger (all these "I-LIKE- work. and don't you worry, there are always some kind of coupons), upload the file and make it public. As easy as abc.

[jpsdr]

Having an account on rapidshare, i'll try to download it. When done, if your proposition of FTP stays kieranrk, i'll PM you.

[jpsdr]

Wonderfull ! The last weeks my internet connection sucked, but not this morning !
I've finished downloaded the files.

[Blue_MiSfit]

Very cool. I look forward to seeing this and doing some proper full-up testing.

[Biggiesized]

Not really, you can always use BurnBit http://burnbit.com

Can you explain how this Burnbit works? It seems like it turns their hosting into a 3rd party torrent seeder in addition to everyone else acting as a normal seeder.

I think that Wuala (www.wuala.com) is the best for such sharing. Just download and install Wuala, use coupons from http://www.retailmenot.com/view/wuala.com to make it larger (all these "I-LIKE- work. and don't you worry, there are always some kind of coupons), upload the file and make it public. As easy as abc.

Unfortunately, the file is too large to be uploaded even with the coupons. They only give you an additional 1 GB free storage. The file in a zip or 7-zip archive is at least 3 GB.

[shon3i]

Very cool. I look forward to seeing this and doing some proper full-up testing.
Yep, but nothing new that we already not know. x264 still have problem with fades, black levels, banding etc (30mbps@veryslow).

[Biggiesized]

Let me know when you guys get the file up on an FTP server. I'll add the link to the first post.

[kolak]

Yea, so each download is going to go slow as shit plus 20 minutes in between each download = too much :effort: to try and download it.

Rapidshare has sucked, sucks now, and probably always will suck.

No- just there is no such a thing like FREE these days- whatever it's :)


Andrew

[AlekseiV]

Lighthouses test footage.torrent (https://sovietpride.su/stf/Lighthouses test footage.torrent)
Should work.

[kolak]

Lighthouses test footage.torrent (https://sovietpride.su/stf/Lighthouses test footage.torrent)
Should work.

Let people with fast upload speed download it first.


Andrew

[AlekseiV]

I have a 100mbit server backing the torrent.

[jpsdr]

Now that i have the files, what do i do with them ?
I thought they were old format splitted rar, but it's not. I think they should be re-united, but how ?

[sneaker_ger]

Use a program that supports 7z (http://www.7-zip.org/).

[AlekseiV]

If you have the .7z.### files, WinRAR can open them if you merge them.
copy /B 1920x1080p24_Chapter_01_000102_002953_Video_IYUV.7z.00* archive.7z
(on windows)

7zip can open them without needing a merge. WinRAR can open the .7z (in the torrent) just fine.

[sneaker_ger]

Mediafire: (uses LZMA2 so you might need to update your 7zip/WinRAR)
http://www.mediafire.com/?9t8k9le98wqst

[kolak]

Mediafire: (uses LZMA2 so you might need to update your 7zip/WinRAR)
http://www.mediafire.com/?9t8k9le98wqst

Very slow- rapidshare at least is fast- once you get to he download link :)

Andrew

[sneaker_ger]

Rapidshare links are already in the start post.

[sneaker_ger]

x264 1788 32bit from x264.nl

x264 --fps 24000/1001 --level 4.1 --preset slow --tune film --slices 4 --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --bitrate 28000
--pass 1 --weightp 1 --keyint 24 --open-gop bluray --nal-hrd vbr --b-pyramid strict
-o lighthouse_br_28000.mkv 1920x1080p24_Chapter_01_000102_002953_Video_IYUV.yuv --demuxer raw --input-csp i420

x264 --fps 24000/1001 --level 4.1 --preset slow --tune film --slices 4 --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --bitrate 28000
--pass 2 --weightp 1 --keyint 24 --open-gop bluray --nal-hrd vbr --b-pyramid strict
-o lighthouse_br_28000.mkv 1920x1080p24_Chapter_01_000102_002953_Video_IYUV.yuv --demuxer raw --input-csp i420

http://www.abload.de/img/0009_sourceopva.png
http://www.abload.de/img/0009_slowhpkz.png

http://www.abload.de/img/1434_sourcejs4o.png
http://www.abload.de/img/1434_slowws71.png

http://www.abload.de/img/1756_sourcezsi8.png
http://www.abload.de/img/1756_slowbqyp.png



http://rapidshare.com/files/432252669/lighthouse_br_28000_slow.mkv
http://www.mediafire.com/?rimg4ekqqr77q

[Stacey Spears]

Yep, but nothing new that we already not know. x264 still have problem with fades, black levels, banding etc (30mbps@veryslow).

The point of providng the source was to have some additional test content to help improve fades and gradients.

[Stacey Spears]

Use a program that supports 7z.

I like IZArc myself.

[sneaker_ger]

x264 1788 32bit from x264.nl

Settings are the same as before, except preset veryslow instead of slow (and bframes kept at 3).
x264 --fps 24000/1001 --level 4.1 --preset veryslow --bframes 3 --tune film --slices 4 --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --bitrate 28000 --pass 1 --weightp 1 --keyint 24 --open-gop bluray --nal-hrd vbr --b-pyramid strict -o lighthouse_br_28000_veryslow.mkv 1920x1080p24_Chapter_01_000102_002953_Video_IYUV.yuv --demuxer raw --input-csp i420
x264 --fps 24000/1001 --level 4.1 --preset veryslow --bframes 3 --tune film --slices 4 --vbv-maxrate 40000 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --bitrate 28000 --pass 2 --weightp 1 --keyint 24 --open-gop bluray --nal-hrd vbr --b-pyramid strict -o lighthouse_br_28000_veryslow.mkv 1920x1080p24_Chapter_01_000102_002953_Video_IYUV.yuv --demuxer raw --input-csp i420
http://www.abload.de/img/0009_sourceopva.png
http://www.abload.de/img/0009_slowhpkz.png
http://www.abload.de/img/0009_veryslowmei7.png

http://www.abload.de/img/1434_sourcejs4o.png
http://www.abload.de/img/1434_slowws71.png
http://www.abload.de/img/1434_veryslowhdkh.png

http://www.abload.de/img/1756_sourcezsi8.png
http://www.abload.de/img/1756_slowbqyp.png
http://www.abload.de/img/1756_veryslowrcws.png


http://rapidshare.com/files/432315400/lighthouse_br_28000_veryslow.mkv
http://www.mediafire.com/?bi64kc8tnbpqa

Looking forward to see some non-x264-encodes.

[Stacey Spears]

I would target 20avg and 30pk. This is a common rate for a high profile title from Disney. They like to include more than one lossless audio track.

[poisondeathray]

Very slow- rapidshare at least is fast- once you get to he download link :)




you're joking right ?

with mediafire, you can use download accellerators (multiple simultaneous connections to 1 file) , or use multiple simulataneous connections for different files as well - and best of all it's free

for rapidshare it's slower, and you have to wait bewteen downloads if there's even a download slot available

[poisondeathray]

The point of providng the source was to have some additional test content to help improve fades and gradients.

Thanks for making this test content available

[Biggiesized]

I would target 20avg and 30pk. This is a common rate for a high profile title from Disney. They like to include more than one lossless audio track.
I wish this were true for Ponyo's release. The Japanese track got the short end of the stick.

[Blue_MiSfit]

Yes, thanks very much for this content. I'll seed it with my last breath :)

Derek

[sneaker_ger]

I would target 20avg and 30pk. This is a common rate for a high profile title from Disney. They like to include more than one lossless audio track.

If we all can agree on specific bitrates I will redo the encodes, unless someone else beats me to it. But I'd like to see some non-x264-encodes first.

[Blue_MiSfit]

Wow, this is really fantastic quality :)

I'm lighting a fire under my Q6600 tonight with some testing! Interestingly, a CRF 18 encode (using BluRay restrictions and 30mbps VBV) is so far averaging only 8.4mbps :devil:

I'll throw this at Rhozet tomorrow and see how its MPEG-2 encoder (Mainconcept) does with this, and maybe some HC, just for fun. Hopefully we can see some tests form CC-HDe or another "pro" encoder as well!

Derek

[Lyris]

I wish this were true for Ponyo's release. The Japanese track got the short end of the stick.
Do you actually have a sound system, soundproofed room, and set of ears that let you hear any audio compression artefacts though?

[Blue_MiSfit]

This is a fade torture test :D

Awesome

[shon3i]

I'm lighting a fire under my Q6600 tonight with some testing! Interestingly, a CRF 18 encode (using BluRay restrictions and 30mbps VBV) is so far averaging only 8.4mbps I want to suggest to use this video, it's more complex for fades and grain.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1459036#post1459036

Anyway did someone want to make rules for test? My opinion:

1. Strict Blu-Ray compilance (so weightp should be disabled as developers suggest)
2. 25mbps
3. Post average speed during encode, i know it's useless, but i will share my results, it's interest to see what speeds can be get for "same" quality.

[Biggiesized]

Do you actually have a sound system, soundproofed room, and set of ears that let you hear any audio compression artefacts though?
All I have are my Sennheiser HD 600 headphones.

I think the claim of indiscernible transparency can be argued when we're measuring lossless versus full DTS (1509) or Dolby Digital Plus. However, an audio spectrogram shows significant differences between Dolby Digital (640) and lossless.

The Japanese release had DTS-HD MA. The U.S. release featured Dolby TrueHD for the English dub and plain Jane DD for Japanese audio.

But I digress...

[sneaker_ger]

Anyway did someone want to make rules for test? My opinion:

1. Strict Blu-Ray compilance (so weightp should be disabled as developers suggest)
2. 25mbps
3. Post average speed during encode, i know it's useless, but i will share my results, it's interest to see what speeds can be get for "same" quality.

1. Completely? I've yet to see any backed up complains about weightp 1, so I'd like to disagree.
2. I'm fine with anything from 20 to 30 Mbit
3. Why not? But we have to make sure we use the same formula. Example:
first pass: encoded 2852 frames, 17.96 fps
second pass: encoded 2852 frames, 6.29 fps
overall fps: 4,65

But I digress...

Indeed, two pages arguing about the best one click hoster is enough off topic for the rest of this thread.

[Dark Shikari]

Weightp on Blu-rays is probably fine now that Mediatek have fixed their firmware.

[Lyris]

With BD the situation is a little different than DVD, since "Average Joes" have been introduced to firmware updates (studios did a good job of explaining updates with little leaflets packed into the titles). But even still, when you're going into replication, if it doesn't work with everything, it's probably not fine.

Do you know how many players were affected? MTK's BD solution was pretty new - I know the Oppo players used it, were there any others?

[sneaker_ger]

LG and Phillips

[kolak]

1. Completely? I've yet to see any backed up complains about weightp 1, so I'd like to disagree.
2. I'm fine with anything from 20 to 30 Mbit
3. Why not? But we have to make sure we use the same formula. Example:
first pass: encoded 2852 frames, 17.96 fps
second pass: encoded 2852 frames, 6.29 fps
overall fps: 4,65



Indeed, two pages arguing about the best one click hoster is enough off topic for the rest of this thread.

Where is 4.65 does come from?

It should be 12.13 as an average speed.

Andrew

[sneaker_ger]

Average is useless:
example:
first pass: 19 fps
second pass: 1 fps
average: 10 fps
overall: 1.05 fps (or 2.1 for each pass)

first pass: 10 fps
second pass: 10 fps
average: 10 fps
overall: 5 fps (or 10 for each pass)

The average of both encodes is the same, but the second encode is almost 5 times faster. The greater the speed difference between the passes, the more useless the average is.