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MILLZY
10th November 2010, 19:27
Keep on getting this on the inspect. Don`t know what i have done but cannot get rid. Any help please.



- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW_RAW_AUDIO: Not recommended setting
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.36.0.2, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

jdobbs
10th November 2010, 19:34
Keep on getting this on the inspect. Don`t know what i have done but cannot get rid. Any help please.



- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- FFDSHOW_RAW_AUDIO: Not recommended setting
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.36.0.2, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

From the instructions on the first page of the bug thread:After the install, run "Video Decoder Configuration" for FFDSHOW from the "START/Programs" menu, and make sure MPEG2 decoding is enabled. Do the same using "Audio Decoder Configuration" to ensure "Uncompressed" is set to "All Supported".

MILLZY
10th November 2010, 20:05
Silly me :o. thanks very much for the prompt reply mate.

jdobbs
10th November 2010, 20:34
That's why I'm here... :)

thegame
11th November 2010, 02:41
Thanks MILLZY for asking that question, I was about to ask the same thing, and a BIG Thanks to jdobbs for the answer and the GREAT software.

Capsbackup
12th November 2010, 02:59
I am not sure if this is related, but the timing certainly is. Since I changed my ffdshow raw audio setting to all supported, I am no longer able to hear lpcm audio from a .m2ts blu ray BDMV folder when played with MPC or Windows Media Player. If I demux the lpcm audio with tsMuxeR, it will play and I hear the audio just fine with both players. But when I try to play the .m2ts file directly with MPC, there is no audio heard, and the audio icon in the bottom corner of the players screen shows an "X" instead of the stereo 2 speakers when audio is heard. :confused:

jdobbs
12th November 2010, 03:19
I am not sure if this is related, but the timing certainly is. Since I changed my ffdshow raw audio setting to all supported, I am no longer able to hear lpcm audio from a .m2ts blu ray BDMV folder when played with MPC or Windows Media Player. If I demux the lpcm audio with tsMuxeR, it will play and I hear the audio just fine with both players. But when I try to play the .m2ts file directly with MPC, there is no audio heard, and the audio icon in the bottom corner of the players screen shows an "X" instead of the stereo 2 speakers when audio is heard. :confused: Hmmm.... let me do some testing. You're using the recommended HAALI version, right? That sure sounds like the most likely culprit.

[Edit] Looked at fixes in HAALI and found this:19/12/2009
New Features:
Added a 64-bit version
A shell extension was removed from the splitter. This will be available seprately at a later date.
Added truehd and mlp support for Matroska files and transpor streams

Fixed items:
Fixed lpcm in transport streams support The recommended version (1.9.42.1) was released on Jan 11, 2009.

I guess I need to do some testing and find a newer version that works reliably with all blu-ray audio/video types. Ugghh... I've been through this before and it's really hard to find one that doesn't eventually bite you in the ass later with some obscure usage. I'll start with the latest and work my way back.

I'm assuming the disc you are using is 24 bit, as I'm pretty sure 16 bit works. You can probably disable that FFDSHOW setting if it worked before. The real reason I added this requirement is because some people were getting failure when attempting to reencode LPCM because there was no active DirectShow CODEC for it. Interestingly, all seems to be working without issue when used through the DirectShowSource() AVISYNTH filter. That's how BD-RB reencodes it to Dolby Digital.

jdobbs
12th November 2010, 15:12
@Capsbackup

Try removing HAALI 1.9.42.1 and replacing it with this versio. It will solve your LPCM playback issue. I'm still testing it to be sure it's 100% compatible before posting as the recommended version, but last night I did 5 encodes that included AVC, VC-1, MPEG-2, DTS-HD, True-HD, DTS, AC3, and 16/24 bit LPCM -- and they all completed correctly.

Capsbackup
12th November 2010, 18:11
I will test out this new haali version later and let you know. I have never had a problem on the reencoding with the recommended haali version, so I do understand your concern regarding haali. Just playing back the original Blu-rays .m2ts from the BDMV folder with MPC and Windows Media Player 12? ( the one that comes with Win 7 ) was where there was no audio heard.
I am not sure if the lpcm was 24 bit or 16 bit, but will check that too.
The problem file was the menu .m2ts from Grown Ups, but I did a successful full movie backup to BD-R, so BD-RB is working properly!

Capsbackup
13th November 2010, 01:01
@Capsbackup

Try removing HAALI 1.9.42.1 and replacing it with this version (http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/MatroskaSplitter14082010.exe). It will solve your LPCM playback issue. I'm still testing it to be sure it's 100% compatible before posting as the recommended version, but last night I did 5 encodes that included AVC, VC-1, MPEG-2, DTS-HD, True-HD, DTS, AC3, and 16/24 bit LPCM -- and they all completed correctly.

This version of haali does solve the problem! :)
MPC audio now works again. Thanks jdobbs.
MediaInfo reports the audio as PCM, 2 channel, 1536Kbps, 48Khz, 16 bits.
I will test BD-RB with this version of haali and follow up with any negative results.
(Of course Inspect reports wrong version)

jdobbs
13th November 2010, 02:03
This version of haali does solve the problem! :)
MPC audio now works again. Thanks jdobbs.
MediaInfo reports the audio as PCM, 2 channel, 1536Kbps, 48Khz, 16 bits.
I will test BD-RB with this version of haali and follow up with any negative results.
(Of course Inspect reports wrong version) I've been doing discs all day and haven't had a problem yet.

jdobbs
16th November 2010, 15:48
This version of haali does solve the problem! :)
MPC audio now works again. Thanks jdobbs.
MediaInfo reports the audio as PCM, 2 channel, 1536Kbps, 48Khz, 16 bits.
I will test BD-RB with this version of haali and follow up with any negative results.
(Of course Inspect reports wrong version) I'd recommend you revert back to the recommended version again. The one that was linked seems to be causing random X264 crashes on my system with 720x480 MPEG-2 streams. It could be there for other types too... See why I hesitate so much to change the HAALI version?

Capsbackup
16th November 2010, 16:03
OK I will revert back. Thank you for the update, I appreciate your find and letting me know... to avoid problems. :)

jdobbs
16th November 2010, 16:29
OK I will revert back. Thank you for the update, I appreciate your find and letting me know... to avoid problems. :) If you continue to have issues with RAW audio playback, just disable it again. I'm removing that check from INSPECT for the next release.

Capsbackup
16th November 2010, 19:24
If you continue to have issues with RAW audio playback, just disable it again. I'm removing that check from INSPECT for the next release.

I have reverted back to the recommended haali version. Also, I tried with disabled RAW audio with ffdshow and all supported, but cannot get either Windows Media Player ( Win 7 ) nor MPC to play/hear the audio of the original m2ts that has PCM audio. Oh well, a small price to pay for a reliable haali with BD-RB! :p

jdobbs
16th November 2010, 20:25
I have reverted back to the recommended haali version. Also, I tried with disabled RAW audio with ffdshow and all supported, but cannot get either Windows Media Player ( Win 7 ) nor MPC to play/hear the audio of the original m2ts that has PCM audio. Oh well, a small price to pay for a reliable haali with BD-RB! :p I've always had RAW audio set to "All Supported" and still do. I just thought it was working for you without (implying there as another CODEC handling it). What I wonder is what the DirectShowSource() filter uses for playback if not this one? Hmmm....

Anyway, it won't hurt to have it on. It's only the HAALI version that seems to be having issues.

Capsbackup
16th November 2010, 22:34
BD-RB reencodes with no problems, so that is my main concern. :)
I can't figure out why the .m2ts does not play back the audio with the two different media players. The demuxed thru tsMuxeR PCM does play back properly thru both players though!
TMT3 plays back the .m2ts as a media file just fine.
So it must be haali??

MickJT
29th November 2010, 13:42
Is it just me? Inspect.exe says nothing about FFDSHOW_RAW_AUDIO here. Not listed at all. Latest version as of this date.

jdobbs
29th November 2010, 15:04
I removed it.