Working with W64 files

[EuropeanMan]

I just extracted a stream from my BluRay disc using RipBot (available on this forum)...I thought I was extracting the DTSMA track, but the product I see is a .w64 FILE, which I googled to be a Sony wave 64 file PCM audio.

Can this be used in my MKV container alongside my video? I know DTS/ES can be used in MKV containers...but don't know about this particular track.

What other uses do I have for PCM audio? What can I extract from this file itself (as opposed to extracting DTS core from the DTSMA file)? Is PCM audio superior to DTS?

IF I can indeed use this w64 track in MKVMerge, will my movie then be playable on PS3/PopCorn etc?

More:
.w64 file is 5.56GiB from RipBot
.dts file is 2.37GiB from TsMuxer (I then used eac3to gui to extract the DTSCore, which is now 1.81GiB)

I'll assume that there is no DTS-ES core? Or how do I go about finding that? I'll assume then because of the larger size of the .w64, that it is lossless?

[tebasuna51]

DTS-MA (2.37GB), TrueHD, FLAC, ... lossless compression, identical data but less size than uncompresed audio: WAV, W64 or PCM (all 5.56GB)

W64 is like a WAV with a new header to avoid the 4GB limit of WAV

DTS, AC3, AAC, ... lossy compresion, less size than lossless

W64 must be used to mux with tsMuxeR (don't accept WAV files >4GB)
To mux with MkvMerge you need a WAV file, even if is >4GB.
You can change the headers between W64 and WAV with:
eac3to x.w64 x.wav (or vice versa)

The core of a DTS-HD can be a standard DTS 5.1 or a DTS-ES 5.1 (with a Back channel muxed in Surround channels), eac3to say you if the core is standard DTS or DTS-ES.

[EuropeanMan]

^ YOU have been SO HELPFUL...I learned so much just now!

I have another question. What GUI do you recommend to work with eac3to? Or must I do everything from CommandPrompt (which is not a problem for me)?
Next. I talked to a friend of mine on messenger and he said that you could encode DTS-ES from the DTS-MA via eac3to. I found it quite odd thinking that the CORE that I analysed is just regular DTS.

I have TSMuxer...so last question. IF I encode my movie (x264 @ 10K bitrate), I of course will get an MKV file. You are saying that I can use this video file, AND the .w64 (irrespective of size) AND my subtitles AND my chapter file, and I will get a workable .MKV (or should I do mp4 container) that will play in Popcorn/PS3?

Thanks again in advance.

[tebasuna51]

What GUI do you recommend to work with eac3to? Or must I do everything from CommandPrompt (which is not a problem for me)?
I make UsEac3to (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145574&highlight=UsEac3to) to test/use eac3to without some inconveniences of command promt (program and file paths, line edition, ...).

Other option is HdBrStreamExtractor.

I talked to a friend of mine on messenger and he said that you could encode DTS-ES from the DTS-MA via eac3to. I found it quite odd thinking that the CORE that I analysed is just regular DTS.
With only eac3to, is not possible.

I have TSMuxer...so last question. IF I encode my movie (x264 @ 10K bitrate), I of course will get an MKV file. You are saying that I can use this video file, AND the .w64 (irrespective of size) AND my subtitles AND my chapter file, and I will get a workable .MKV (or should I do mp4 container) that will play in Popcorn/PS3?.

There are many question involved.

First one. Can you send audio PCM 5.1/7.1 by HDMI to your receiver from PopCorn/PS3, or you have only a SPDIF conexion?

[EuropeanMan]

I have HDMI...and I've played the audio from my PC and it plays fine on TV speaker system.

But what I do NOT have is a PS3/Popcorn player...so I don't even KNOW if it's possible that the MKV container with my PCM5.1 audio will play on those systems.

(sorry for delay in responding..dad is in hospital)

[tebasuna51]

Standard TV speaker system is only stereo.

I don't have a receiver with HDMI input then I can't test player output PCM 5.1.
There are players than can play your mkv (MkvMerge and .WAV audio).
For PS3 you need a .m2ts container (tsMuxeR and .W64 audio)