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JJB

8th November 2010, 02:43

jdobbs

8th November 2010, 14:41

I have looked forward for this option for sometime but I seem to have a problem with audio sync.

I have tried with pre-processed outputs from BDRB to AVCHD 5 and 9 with sync problems. The video is always outstanding.

I have done several full rips(from AnyDVD HD) and converted to DVD5/9 with the same results. The video is always outstanding.

I have never had a problem using BDRB to BD5/9 or BD25 at all.

I have tried this on 3 different computers with all out of sync.
I have tried DVD5 and 9.

The 2 videos are Toy Story 3 and no Country for Old Men.

Thanks!! It would be helpful if you gave more information -- like logs and INF files. I've done "Toy Story 3" in my testing of the DVD output option and it worked fine. I'll try again.

What do you mean by "pre-processed outputs"? If I understand correctly you mean sources that have already been run through BD Rebuilder?

[edit] Also -- are you in a PAL region and are you using the "PAL output" option in SETUP?

JJB

8th November 2010, 19:24

It would be helpful if you gave more information -- like logs and INF files. I've done "Toy Story 3" in my testing of the DVD output option and it worked fine. I'll try again.

What do you mean by "pre-processed outputs"? If I understand correctly you mean sources that have already been run through BD Rebuilder?

[edit] Also -- are you in a PAL region and are you using the "PAL output" option in SETUP?

Tried converting from original rip and from the BD9 converted by BDRB.

NTSC

The sync issues started about 15min into the film.

No Country for Old Men

[13:57:54] BD Rebuilder v0.36.01 (beta)
- Source: NO_COUNTRY_FOR_OLD_MEN
- Input BD size: 26.69 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:02:10.364]
- Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
- MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
- Mode: DVD-9, 720x480/576, AC3 Audio
- Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[13:58:00] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [13:58:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
- [14:03:10] Reencoding: VID_00006 (1 of 1)
- [14:03:10] Collecting video information
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 175,753 frames
- Bitrate: 8,105 Kbs
- [14:03:10] Reencoding: VID_00006
- [18:32:43] Video Encode complete
- [18:32:43] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
- [18:34:39] Multiplexing M2TS
[18:34:39]PHASE ONE complete
[18:34:39]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [18:34:39] Rebuilding stream 00006 [1 of 1]
- [18:34:39] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
- [18:37:40] Starting MPLEX.
- [18:43:07] Building DVD File Structure.
[18:51:52] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[18:51:52]JOB: NO_COUNTRY_FOR_OLD_MEN finished.

[Options]
MODE=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=2
ALTCRF=20
ALTMETHOD=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
TARGET_SIZE=8032
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=G:\BLU-RAY\11-7-10\NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN\
WORKING_PATH=C:\

[Status]
LABEL=NO_COUNTRY_FOR_OLD_MEN
VERSION=v0.36.01 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=28659640320
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=28659640320
TARGET_SIZE=8422162432
REDUCTION=.293868392553504
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=2
USE_LAVF=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00006]
AUDIO=01
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=8422162432
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

Toy Story
[Status]
LABEL=TOY_STORY_3_D1
VERSION=v0.36.01 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=29391126528
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=29391126528
TARGET_SIZE=4686086144
REDUCTION=.159438806795504
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=1
USE_LAVF=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=47
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00296]
AUDIO=10000
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=39005395
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00320]
M2TS_TARGET=19843596
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00297]
M2TS_TARGET=90980589
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00321]
M2TS_TARGET=15010289
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00298]
M2TS_TARGET=34482619
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00322]
M2TS_TARGET=11611104
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00299]
M2TS_TARGET=333685290
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00323]
M2TS_TARGET=61303849
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00301]
M2TS_TARGET=20335351
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00324]
M2TS_TARGET=36979599
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00302]
M2TS_TARGET=54934541
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00325]
M2TS_TARGET=19143187
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00303]
M2TS_TARGET=36654375
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00326]
M2TS_TARGET=65691441
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00304]
M2TS_TARGET=60004910
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00327]
M2TS_TARGET=25476250
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00305]
M2TS_TARGET=19465473
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00328]
M2TS_TARGET=33764578
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00306]
M2TS_TARGET=1014628117
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00329]
M2TS_TARGET=70783361
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00307]
M2TS_TARGET=169606564
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00330]
M2TS_TARGET=24029392
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00308]
M2TS_TARGET=58258297
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00331]
M2TS_TARGET=93101406
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00309]
M2TS_TARGET=592823627
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00341]
M2TS_TARGET=21620576
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00310]
M2TS_TARGET=47968662
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00332]
M2TS_TARGET=72283116
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00311]
M2TS_TARGET=91872998
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00333]
M2TS_TARGET=66101891
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00312]
M2TS_TARGET=102219449
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00334]
M2TS_TARGET=18384983
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00313]
M2TS_TARGET=31387108
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00335]
M2TS_TARGET=46940091
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00314]
M2TS_TARGET=64853890
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00336]
M2TS_TARGET=52981235
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00315]
M2TS_TARGET=93357080
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00337]
M2TS_TARGET=20008167
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00316]
M2TS_TARGET=208984204
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00338]
M2TS_TARGET=193401834
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00317]
M2TS_TARGET=212664532
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00339]
M2TS_TARGET=73064831
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00318]
M2TS_TARGET=18615187
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00340]
M2TS_TARGET=17624820
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00319]
M2TS_TARGET=87814548
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00477]
M2TS_TARGET=119354472
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00342]
M2TS_TARGET=22979270
AUDIO=10000
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

[Options]
MODE=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=1
ALTCRF=20
ALTMETHOD=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=G:\TOY_STORY_3_D1\
WORKING_PATH=C:\

I hope these are the correct files as I have tried these 2 movies several times with the same result.

I suspect I just have something ticked wrong as I have not had a problem with BDRB since day 1 that was not self inflicted.

I am now trying Toy Story again from the original Blu-Ray.
The BD9 from the original played perfectly.

Thanks

jdobbs

8th November 2010, 23:01

Tried converting from original rip and from the BD9 converted by BDRB.

NTSC

The sync issues started about 15min into the film.

...

I hope these are the correct files as I have tried these 2 movies several times with the same result.

I suspect I just have something ticked wrong as I have not had a problem with BDRB since day 1 that was not self inflicted.

I am now trying Toy Story again from the original Blu-Ray.
The BD9 from the original played perfectly.

Thanks There really is no relationship between BD-5/9 and DVD. The work is done in a completely different set of modules. It uses a completely different encoder and muxer.

It's really weird, though, that you seem to be doing the exact same disc as me -- and it's working fine here.

Capsbackup

9th November 2010, 00:13

jdobbs

9th November 2010, 00:25

Sorry, I first reported this in the bug reports thread, but I have moved it to here. :o

I am running Toy Story 3 to alternate output DVD, and noticed the percent complete is currently at 176.44% and rising! :confused:
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4172/ts3bdrb3601.jpg

I will report back with my finished results. ;)

EDIT:
Finished at 4.07GB, plays back perfectly with PowerDVD on my PC, audio is in sync!
Another great feature jdobbs! :)
I will burn and test on my S360 just for conclusion.

Plays back perfectly on S360 and old and rarely used DVP-NS575P.Same for me. I'm obviously calculating overall completion wrong (it's doing the goofy reporting for me too). I just looked at it and it seems right -- but I'm pretty confident there's no such thing as having completed 176% of the work to be done... ;)

jdobbs

9th November 2010, 00:49

@JJB

"Toy Story 3" completed in perfect sync (from an original rip) for me. I'm running now with your INI replacing mine. Next I'll see what happens from a BD-RB preprocessed source. But, honestly, I'm not very confident either of these will change anything. I'm not sure where to go from there? Have you tried playback on a standalone DVD player? Some PCs don't do well with VOB playback.

JJB

9th November 2010, 02:23

Capsbackup

9th November 2010, 02:33

jdobbs, I must apologize for a quick bug report when it was on my end.
Sorry for the bad report.
Case Closed.
Baliff, please escort everyone from the Court Room.

Corporal punishment to be determined at sentencing by the judge, the honorable jdobbs! :p

JJB

9th November 2010, 03:01

I await the trashing!! :o

Ch3vr0n

9th November 2010, 03:09

I sentence you to 15yrs of community service in the house of jdobbs as his cleaning maid :p

JJB

9th November 2010, 03:16

I sentence you to 15yrs of community service in the house of jdobbs as his cleaning maid :p

I guess I could try but I dont know how to clean 11001100 11100 11100 1100010 11100 1000 :rolleyes:

jdobbs

9th November 2010, 04:34

jdobbs, I must apologize for a quick bug report when it was on my end.

I re-ripped both TS3 and OCFOM and both were fantastic as a DVD. Seems I had a drive that was failing that they were ripped to.

I also did Kung Fu Hustle and Silverado with no problems.

I did KFH in english and all Kung Fu pop's and smacks were in sync as was Silverado.

Sorry for the bad report.

Most likely something to do with Voodoo Chilli

Thank You Sir.

Case Closed.
Baliff, please escort everyone from the Court Room. That's great news. I was worried about that one...

On the positive side -- while looking for this one I found and fixed another bug that could make the audio silent or fail to encode when ALTERNATE OUTPUT was used at the same time the BD settings were set for "Keep HD Audio" and "BD-25".

Capsbackup

9th November 2010, 16:09

That's great news. I was worried about that one...

On the positive side -- while looking for this one I found and fixed another bug that could make the audio silent or fail to encode when ALTERNATE OUTPUT was used at the same time the BD settings were set for "Keep HD Audio" and "BD-25".

That is good news. It's always nice when a little fun and humor and a positive development all takes place! :)

JJB

23rd November 2010, 02:57

I am a set and forget one click animal however I got frisky after some adult beverages and entered SHOW_ENCODER=1 on a conversion from BD5/9/25 to DVD and ended up with a small source mismatch between pass 1 and 2. Sometimes a Large mismatch.

Google is no help because all results is gibberish to a 1 clicker with 20 programs could be the problem.

I did play back of some of the crap that the kids' or grandkids watch and noticed a pixel problem sometimes.

A convert with Henc during DVD-Rebuilder Pro shows no mismatch.

I have tried on 3 computers with the same result about the mismatch.

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss69/jimmyjoebob1/2ndPass_Big.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss69/jimmyjoebob1/2ndpasswithothererror.jpg

[Options]
HC_PROFILE=BEST
SHOW_ENCODER=1
MODE=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=1
ALTCRF=20
ALTMETHOD=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23450
TARGET_SIZE=4469
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
VERSION=0.36.0.4
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=G:\BLU-RAY\11-7-10\THIN_RED_LINE\

*PROFILE BEST
*INFILE G:\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS
*OUTFILE G:\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.m2v
*BITRATE 5383
*MAXBITRATE 9000
*WAIT 0
*ASPECT 16:9
*PROGRESSIVE
*PULLDOWN
*CHAPTER 11
0
16912
26080
38233
54785
73630
86241
99398
113313
126845
136740
*NOSEQ_ENDCODE

jdobbs

23rd November 2010, 14:40

I am a set and forget one click animal however I got frisky after some adult beverages and entered SHOW_ENCODER=1 on a conversion from BD5/9/25 to DVD and ended up with a small source mismatch between pass 1 and 2. Sometimes a Large mismatch.

Google is no help because all results is gibberish to a 1 clicker with 20 programs could be the problem.

I did play back of some of the crap that the kids' or grandkids watch and noticed a pixel problem sometimes.

A convert with Henc during DVD-Rebuilder Pro shows no mismatch.

I have tried on 3 computers with the same result about the mismatch. BD Rebuilder uses the exact same AVS and/or source file for each of the two passes. In fact, since HCENCODE does both passes from a single command line, BD-RB is actually just sitting and waiting for completion, so it's probably something internal to HCEncode. I'd recommend you replace HC Encoder with an earlier version and see if the same thing happens. I've never seen that warning myself.

Just an FYI, BD Rebuilder and DVD Rebuilder's inner workings have very little in common. One uses DGDECODE and the other uses DirectShowSource() so comparing the two really isn't applicable. They also use two different versions of HCENCODE (unless it has been manually replaced in DVD-RB).

JJB

23rd November 2010, 17:05

BD Rebuilder uses the exact same AVS and/or source file for each of the two passes. In fact, since HCENCODE does both passes from a single command line, BD-RB is actually just sitting and waiting for completion, so it's probably something internal to HCEncode. I'd recommend you replace HC Encoder with an earlier version and see if the same thing happens. I've never seen that warning myself.

Just and FYI, BD Rebuilder and DVD Rebuilder's inner workings have very little in common. One uses DGDECODE and the other uses DirectShowSource().

I tried it with version 0.23 with the same results.
I also re-installed AviSynth from the 1st page as the googled results mentioned the problem might be that.

The DVD is quite watchable and none of the kids have complained as the pixels only happens once or twice that I have seen and is very fast.

Just a heads up in case it would create a hidden problem that would also need fixing.

Thanks!