Problem with DVD Rebuilder

[kabster]

Hello everyone,


I have an WEIRD strange problem sudden with dvd rebuilder !??

Dvd rebuilder worked on my previous installed windows 7 x64 system just fine (with the exception of a sudden avysinth "couldnot render blah " in the mids of previewing the prepared project to alter bitrate you know)

I have just re-installed an fresh, clean copy of windows 7 x64 (up to date patched)

Now, rebuilder doesnt want to run/launch anymore !!??? It doesnt give me any error at all !! only , in eventvwr i read the following about rebuilder :

Windows error reporting type event id 1001 Class 4 but no clue about the source of the problem !!!

When i create an Microsoft report i get the message "incompatible Application" O_o !!???

Thats odd, because i recall not to have used any Compatiblity settings in my previous system and it worked just fine without any special threatment to rebuilder !?!

Anybody ideas as to why i cant use rebuilder anymore on the same os as before ?


thanks in advance,
kabster,

[jdobbs]

Hi. Your post is related to DVD Rebuilder and you'd posted it in the BD Rebuilder bug thread, so I've move it to a new thread.

I've had 3 reports over the last few months that match what you have described. In all cases the problem was caused by antivirus or anti-spyware software that use "heuristic" methods for decided what should and should not run. I'm not sure about the particulars of your case, but I'd recommend you either disable the antivirus or spyware software, or (if it allows so) put DVD Rebuilder on whatever equivalent of a "white list" your package may provide.

[kabster]

Hi. Your post is related to DVD Rebuilder and you'd posted it in the BD Rebuilder bug thread, so I've move it to a new thread.

I've had 3 reports over the last few months that match what you have described. In all cases the problem was caused by antivirus or anti-spyware software that use "heuristic" methods for decided what should and should not run. I'm not sure about the particulars of your case, but I'd recommend you either disable the antivirus or spyware software, or (if it allows so) put DVD Rebuilder on whatever equivalent of a "white list" your package may provide.


Good day Jddbobs,

WEll thats just weird!! I do indeed use AV + Firewall , but i did used that on my other system too without difficulties!!

Anyway, i have thought of it before reporting this issue and disabled every security measure , also the way it reports any malicious activity is also set to ask (me)!! But despite all this, the application still refuses to launch !!!

I thought of DEP in windows 7 but that didnt help anything either ?!?

Iam baffled !! The only thing i can think of is , that throughout the update proces of several windows 7 security patches something might have blocked the app from running (dunno honest but its an possibility )

But in that case, i have made an acronis backup of my fRESh installed win7 (without any update or anything else just clean instaal)

I always can put that backup back in place , and try rebuilder again on a that Fresh naked win7 system at the end !!

Beside all that, you spoke of re allocating my post to another place..! Do you have an link for me so i can follow up my situation? = Nevermind found the place to be :)

Most important;, Thanks jdbobs for your rather FAST INPUT and great application :thanks:


kabster,

[Groucho2004]

Jddbobs

jdbobs

:rolleyes:

[kabster]

:rolleyes:

Yes groucho.... do you want to say something in particularry :) :confused: lol

[Groucho2004]

Yes groucho.... do you want to say something in particularry :) :confused: lol

Your keyboard seems to be broken.

[kabster]

Your keyboard seems to be broken.


No ... not my KB ... but Rebuilder seems to be broken (ATTENTION iam joking :eek: before i get an stampede of PRO BODY REBUILDERS over myself ) !!!


Anyway, i want to clear some up for other users/people that might struggle with the same issue !!

I have just boot win7 in safe mode, and ofcourse rebuilder seems to work just perfect !!!

So, i figure something is blocking rebuilder from working correct !!!

must be startup service or other background application....

BUt like jdobbs pointed out, my av might be very well the cullprit here... because and dont ask my why this is strange...; when i disable my av i just cant receive or send any emails through outlook 2010 !!!!!

So , i better get rid of that av and delete every trace of that buggy av !!!!!


But comments are still welcome ... untill we have sort out the root of this !!!


cheers,

kab,

[kabster]

Update to my own thread:


Well, it seems to be a securtiy measurement indeed that prevented rebuilder from working properly all of a sudden !!

My Comodo install wos the root of the problem!!

Not the firewall, but more specific the "Pro active Defense" Feature or lack off sort of speak did started this mayhem !!

That Defense net feature has caused problems before with applications such as nero9 not working correct (hang/freez/lockups etc... )

That """feature"""" does more harm than any good in my opinion !! So people dont disable it by menu, but disable it in prefferences / options of commode or it wont be disabled completely at all !!

Iam glad i coud help

CASE SOLVED :goodpost:

[jdobbs]

Update to my own thread:


Well, it seems to be a securtiy measurement indeed that prevented rebuilder from working properly all of a sudden !!

My Comodo install wos the root of the problem!!

Not the firewall, but more specific the "Pro active Defense" Feature or lack off sort of speak did started this mayhem !!

That Defense net feature has caused problems before with applications such as nero9 not working correct (hang/freez/lockups etc... )

That """feature"""" does more harm than any good in my opinion !! So people dont disable it by menu, but disable it in prefferences / options of commode or it wont be disabled completely at all !!

Iam glad i coud help

CASE SOLVED :goodpost:Thanks for posting the result of your find. I have to agree, these antivirus and antispam package have become a real pain. I'm not sure they are any better than the viruses they are supposed to prevent.

[kabster]

Thanks for posting the result of your find. I have to agree, these antivirus and antispam package have become a real pain. I'm not sure they are any better than the viruses they are supposed to prevent.


Yes indeed.. Also, the registry is poluted with al sort of garbage left overs when you try and i do say TRY to """uninstall""" !!!

Most of the time you need to backtrace those registry keys to do a clean sweep and still you wont find everything ... so poluted or deep rooted are some of those comercial applications !!!

Anyway, i have reconfigurated my Comodo Firewall aswell to FIX my OUTLOOK 2010 too (i mentioned earlier) ..

Everything is working just splendid again now :o



P.S: question about DBrebuilder.... Is it capabel to do a BDmovie + menu + selective audio / subs language conversion now days ?

I might consider to purchase an blu-ray drive for my pc :thanks:


take care jdobbs,



cheers

[jdobbs]

Yes. It does a full backup (or movie-only) and you can select what audio/subs you'd like to keep.

[kabster]

Yes. It does a full backup (or movie-only) and you can select what audio/subs you'd like to keep.

Iam glad to hear this.

And what about the menu's ? Is it possible to preserve those too jdobbs ?

It seems this application is looking very promising indeed & ... AGAIN... Jdobbs strikes ... well..... AGAIN hehe :)


Thank you very much jdobbs for your input regarding my inquiry's :goodpost:




cheers ,
kab,








This thread is second only to "Our moderator rules" thread, in my opinion of course. :)
Thanks kabster, for the Croissade. ;)
(Though it seems kabster usually speaks this way, kinda.)


Come again... :confused: !!!??? :o

[jdobbs]

@kabster

A full backup includes all menus and extras, movie-only includes only the feature. BD Rebuilder does both.

[kabster]

@kabster

A full backup includes all menus and extras, movie-only includes only the feature. BD Rebuilder does both.


Good to know jdobbs ;)

As soon i own a blu-ray burner , i will be more then happy to beta test your creation jdobbs :D


So, am i right when i say 1 BD-DL can be reduced to a 1 BD-SL disk using BD-rebuilder jdobbs?

If yes, then its all i need to know to invest in a blu-ray burner and some (needles to say) unfortunately still expensive BD-R's or for starters an BD-RE to do some testing woud be more economic woudnt you say.


Again, my upmost appreciation jdobbs for your quick and to the point responses :goodpost:


take care,

cheers
kab,

[jdobbs]

Good to know jdobbs ;)

As soon i own a blu-ray burner , i will be more then happy to beta test your creation jdobbs :D


So, am i right when i say 1 BD-DL can be reduced to a 1 BD-SL disk using BD-rebuilder jdobbs?

If yes, then its all i need to know to invest in a blu-ray burner and some (needles to say) unfortunately still expensive BD-R's or for starters an BD-RE to do some testing woud be more economic woudnt you say.


Again, my upmost appreciation jdobbs for your quick and to the point responses :goodpost:


take care,

cheers
kab, Yes it reduces BD-50 formats down to BD-25. It also reduces movie-only Blu-ray to AVCHD BD-5 and BD-9 (HD blu-ray on DVD+R). Full backups to BD-5/9 can be done also, but some players won't play them.

By the way, BD-25 (BD-R SL) discs really aren't that expensive anymore. You can get them for a little over $1 ea online.

[kabster]

Yes it reduces BD-50 formats down to BD-25. It also reduces movie-only Blu-ray to AVCHD BD-5 and BD-9 (HD blu-ray on DVD+R). Full backups to BD-5/9 can be done also, but some players won't play them.

By the way, BD-25 (BD-R SL) discs really aren't that expensive anymore. You can get them for a little over $1 ea online.


Just great :D. It seems you have allot of possibilities whit this new format/standard disc.

I dont think i ever will do an Blu-ray to DVD conversion , certainly not dvd 5 .. I realize the litle space you have to work with will drastically reduce the quality even its only the movie iam working with.

No, my goal is to work whit the blu-ray format both ways.

And yes, BD-SL isnt that expensive anymore .... However, thats the case if you:

1. Buy them in spindle of 10 or more
2. Avoid Verbatim , TDK which is still double if not triple the price of other brands !!! But then again you get what you pay for.
3. and lets not forget you have to pay per 0.X write speed too i have noticed :eek:
4. AVOID BD-R DL (50GB) !! And to think the companies want to crank this up to 4 layers = 100Gb lol!!



So in a nutshel, the prices of BD-R's are realy relative atm !!

Also, is it safe to say the Quality in terms of write quality (PIE/PIF) etc are equaly the same from all sorts of brands ?

Because, i have read in some places blu-ray discs are more reliable then dvd standards in terms of burning and storage purpose.



Thank you very much for everything Jdobbs ,

Take care,

kab,

[Ch3vr0n]

Avoid Verbatim ? Are you nuts. Its one of the best, ifnot THE best brands arround.

[kabster]

Avoid Verbatim ? Are you nuts. Its one of the best, ifnot THE best brands arround.


Chevron,

No offense but! DO I NEED TO SPIT EVERYTHING OUT FOR YOU !?

Ofcourse is verbatim one of the best quality products out there if not the best.
NO QUESTION ABOUT IT !

If you read between the lines, i was judging the prices from some media !!

Furthermore, i ONLY use VErbatims dvd+r these days..

Wot i MEANT to say whit "Aviod Verbatim" is , that VERBATIM is VERY HIGH PRICED compared to other brands. Other brands that might very welll have the same DURABLE QUALITY for BD-R disks nowdays (who knows) for like half or even 1/3 the price Verbatims and TDK are .

Lets not forget, test have pointed out that whit the new Blu-ray standard the quality from al sorts of brands are EQUALY the SAME these day's whereas whit DVD+R the quality from certain brands STILL are very VERY DOUBTFULL.

And yes, i still want to warn people for TDK BRAND & AVOID TDK for blu-ray and DVD+R aswell !!!

Have had VERY VERY BAD QUALITY results whit TDK DVD9+R media and DVD5+R :scared:

And i have burned those TDK disks on 2 very well respected burners

1. Samsung SH-203N
2. Asus 241BST (refurbished liteon)

You woudnt believe if i showed you the scan results from those garbage TDK's (label say: life on record !! :confused:)

cheers,

[Ghitulescu]

Beware however, the newest Verbatims are no longer MIJ, no longer MIT, but MII or MIC. Mitsubishi started too to sell the name only.

As long as one doesn't burn 16-24x, but finds a good writing strategy, practically every brand yields acceptable to good results. The difference lies in how well they withstand the time.

[jdobbs]

Beware however, the newest Verbatims are no longer MIJ, no longer MIT, but MII or MIC. Mitsubishi started too to sell the name only.

As long as one doesn't burn 16-24x, but finds a good writing strategy, practically every brand yields acceptable to good results. The difference lies in how well they withstand the time.That's been my experience too.

[kabster]

The difference lies in how well they withstand the time.

errr.... iam afraid you are RIGHT ON about that !!!

I check my burns on an regular base, and i have found a 6-8 month old disc burned at 8-12x from which the quality started to degrade :mad:

The weird part is, the label from my verbatim spindels say MIT though !!!

However, the lasers from certain dvd players might be worned out too !!

Or some dvd players play nice one time and the next min it starts to stutter at that very same spot/timeframe !!

TRT test showed an strait nice curve in cdspeed :confused: !!

The pie/pif quality tests are well whitin tolerated error margin !!

So, i think as long you can do an Perfect TRT scan from a disc the quality should be fine too i figure!



kab,