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k-c-ksum
7th October 2010, 15:34
looks like its possible to back up 3D blurays. The 3DBD Buster app has a few options, What would it take for BDrebuilder to incorporate the 1920x1080 side by side format. Atm i would create the SBS version then mux the ts into bluray format with TSmuxer then run it through Bdrebuilder, would be cool to do the whole thing in rebuilder, well Movie only :)
HWK
7th October 2010, 22:03
3DBD Buster basically make two stream one for each eye. Encoding them is easy part. However Putting the back is not easy at all.
TsMuxer was not made by Jdobbs. But BD-Rebuilder uses it to rebuild BD disc. Therefore TsMuxer must add support for it and not to mention you have to update all files related to title.
This doesn't apply if Jdobbs go with his own muxer, which he has planned. I guess time will tell.
jdobbs
7th October 2010, 23:46
Maybe I'm behind the power curve in terms of 3D processing... but I don't think I get the point of side-by-side... what player supports it and how does it play back as 3D?
I guess I'll have to do a little reading-up...
[Edit] Ok, that was simple enough... but how do you tell your television that the source is side-by-side so it can convert it to sequential? Does it have a special setting? Does it recognize it somehow?
k-c-ksum
8th October 2010, 17:02
Maybe I'm behind the power curve in terms of 3D processing... but I don't think I get the point of side-by-side... what player supports it and how does it play back as 3D?
I guess I'll have to do a little reading-up...
[Edit] Ok, that was simple enough... but how do you tell your television that the source is side-by-side so it can convert it to sequential? Does it have a special setting? Does it recognize it somehow?
there are are a few side by side options, the 3840x1080 option is no use for standalone playback, obviously, but the 1920x1080 side by side is. This method has both images encoded together, each squashed to 960x1080. On a non 3d hd display all you get is a 1920x1080 image containing the 2 images side by side on a 3d tv though each half gets streched back to 1920.
SKy and Canal plus are using this method on theer 3D sat tv channels as it means they dont have to replace there hardware as the sat reciever see's the stream as any other, its the TV that does the work. Which also means any bluray player can be used as there is only 1 stream. The only down side is a loss of resolution as each eye is only getting a 960x1080 image (streched to 1920x1080) instead of a full 1920x1080 image as on the original disc. Still looks impressive though :)
It will be tv specific but there will be a side by side input option, as some people are playing back content via the tv's usb media playback also
Im going the 120hz projector route :)
setarip_old
8th October 2010, 18:52
Do all of the 3D-capable TVs require (relatively costly) glasses for viewing 3D video (whether from disc or broadcast)?
HWK
8th October 2010, 18:59
Do all of the 3D-capable TVs require (relatively costly) glasses for viewing 3D video (whether from disc or broadcast)?
Yes, you do need glasses. But actual word for this glass is shutter. Without them each eye will see both right and left images. However you need to show each image to respective eye only.
Ch3vr0n
8th October 2010, 19:41
You're partially wrong HWK, yes you need glasses but NO not all of them are active shutter glasses. There also is the passive filter glasses.
setarip_old
8th October 2010, 19:43
@jdobbs
For exploring further on your PC, download the "Stereoscopic Player" by Peter Wimmer at:
http://www.3dtv.at/Index_en.aspx
Stereoscopic Player is a full-featured 3D movie player.
•Play stereoscopic movie files and 3D-DVDs
•Watch stereoscopic webcast as well as live images from your camera or TV card
•Stereoscopic Player supportes a wide range of 3D hardware, including anaglyph glasses, shutterglasses, autostereoscopic displays and projection systems
•Stereoscopic Player supports all major 3D video formats
3D Videos
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If you need some sample movies, take a look at this sites:
* 3dtv.at sample movies
http://www.3dtv.at/Movies
* Stereo movie page of Werner Bloos
http://www.wbloos.de/hobbys/stereoskopie/3d-video.html
* Gali-3D stereo video page
http://www.gali-3d.com/gallery/video-gallery-en.php
* Stereopia
http://www.stereopia.com/english/gallery/3d.html
k-c-ksum
8th October 2010, 21:08
Do all of the 3D-capable TVs require (relatively costly) glasses for viewing 3D video (whether from disc or broadcast)?
LG do a passive only 3dtv, which is a relativley cheap route in 3d Viewing. Ideal for mass viewing for sporting events shown @ pubs etc as the glasses required are the dirt cheap polorized one's and work really well with side by side 3D.
With Side by Side encoding you wont need to buy an extra 3d bluray for that second 3dtv in the bedroom/study etc :)
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