BluRay -> ~8-12GB MKV

[Walthur]

Hi!
I want to rip & re-encode my 1080p BluRays to MKV, and want to achieve a filesize of around 8-12 GB.

In my search I've been directed to this site and various guides a few times, this seems to be the place to ask.

I've been following this guide: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=136505

I have ripped it to disk, demuxed the video and audio, converted the audio to ac3, remuxed into TS.

My trouble is the re-encoding of the video.

I have downloaded Haali's splitter, and several mpeg4/h264 decoders, but I can't seem to hook them up in GraphEdit, by default it chooses some Microsoft splitters and decoders that don't work. I tried to build the graph manually, but it says "the pins don't match" or something.

If I use MeGUI's AviSynth script creator, it seems to choose the MS splitter and decoder as well, which end up not working.

I even have that cyberlink software mentioned in the guide, it came with my BR drive, but I can't hook up that decoder either.



If someone can help me with that, I would be very grateful!

I have another question, when encoding to MKV MeGUI always creates 2 jobs..the first job usually takes a few seconds when I encode little segments of uncompressed video.

However when I try to encode this movie (with the MS splitter and decoder) it shows no progress bar, it kept going for 45 minutes with no indication of anything happening. What is happening here, and how long does this normally take?

[setarip_old]

Hi! I want to rip & re-encode my 1080p BluRays to MKV, and want to achieve a filesize of around 8-12 GB."multiAVCHD" will do all of that for you ;>}

[Walthur]

I guess that's what I get for relying on 2 year old info? m(

Thansk, I will have a look at that!

[saint-francis]

The reason MeGUI isn't reporting any progress (I'm assuming) is that the profile you have selected is pretty slow and the process will take an eon. Just rip the movie with anydvd, use the HD Stream Extractor from MeGUI and load the resulting .mkv into the script creator. Once you are done cropping and resizing, if that's you preference, select a sane x264 profile. Personally I use CRF which is only one pass. This will target a quality as opposed to a file size.

What kind of processing power do you have behind this whole operation?

[Walthur]

No no, when encoding to h264 in mkv it always does two jobs, the first one doesnt display progress, or an ETA estimate. the second one is the actual encoding happening and that one displays progress and time estimates - only here I haven't gotten to the actual encoding cause the first job takes forever.

I have a 3.6Ghz Quadcore, but the work is being done on a C2D with 2.8 GHz.

I haven't used that HD stream extractor, giving it a try now. estimates about 12 minutes, if its not doing any real transcoding, the time might be plausible. Will see if this yields a working MKV that I can re-encode.

Thanks!

[7ekno]

Firstly, have a look in the HDConvertToX first post thread on how to set your system up so everything works in Windows 7 (you have to bypass MS filters, there is linked thread in the first post to a guide to "setup for HDConvertToX") ...

Once system is setup appropriately, there are many tools to do what you want including: BluRip, HDConvertToX, StaxRip, Ripbot264, multiAVCHD, etc

Many of these tools are now "all-in-one", meaning that if you have AnyDVD or DVDFab Passkey running, you can point most of these tools at the BDMV directory (or the biggest M2TS file) and they all will bring up a selection of items to include in the rip (like video track, audio tracks, subtitle tracks, chapter information) and do the entire conversion for you (of course they all have subtle differences, but they are all a good place to start!) ...

7ek

[Walthur]

Thank you! That did it...finally the MS decoder is dead, and the encoding in progress. Anydvdhd, k-lite, megui..gotta remember those :)

[Walthur]

Ok so....I encoded with some basic settings, automated 2 pass, 8000 kbits, medium preset. Resulting MKV is only ~408MB in size and full of artifacts...:S

[Ghitulescu]

HDconverttoX downconverts the movie. Use something like BD-RB, multiavchd ....

[Walthur]

I used MeGUI, not HDconverttoX - 8000kbits average bitrate should have resulted in a file somewhere around 6.5 GB (just for the video) :/

[setarip_old]

@Walthur

You initially said: I want to rip & re-encode my 1080p BluRays to MKV, and want to achieve a filesize of around 8-12 GB.

I responded: "multiAVCHD" will do all of that for you ;>}

You then said: I guess that's what I get for relying on 2 year old info? m(

Thansk, I will have a look at that!

So, is there a reason that you've not tried "multiAVCHD", yet?

[Walthur]

So, is there a reason that you've not tried "multiAVCHD", yet?

I'm actually asking on behalf of a friend, so theres quite a lag bewteen me asking here, you answering (thank you though!) and us trying it out together - I do not actually have a BR drive, so I can't test any of this myself very well.

By the time we got around to trying the first time, there were already more suggestions on how to get it to work, and since the tutorial for multiavchd seemed awfully long, I thought we'd try fixing our broken workflow before we tried a whole other program.

Also, I have used MeGUI for encoding often before, so I thought that at least that part (once we got there) wouldn't give us so much trouble.

[setarip_old]

I'm actually asking on behalf of a friend, so theres quite a lag bewteen me asking here, you answering (thank you though!) and us trying it out together - I do not actually have a BR drive, so I can't test any of this myself very well. If, in fact, that's actually the case, I'd suggest you only post here (about this topic) when you are at your friend's computer...

BTW - Using "multiAVCHD" to make compressed .MKVs from Blu-ray .M2TS movie-only file is basically (Plus a few "Okays") as simple as:

1) Load the .M2TS file
2) Select "Transcode"
3) Set desired filesize
4) Choose .MKV for output
5) Click on "Start"

[Walthur]

We live almost 300 miles apart, so we do this online whenever we have the time. We got a little invested in fixing the heap of crap we had installed to work instead of trying another program, even though you suggested it first.
I already downloaded the program, but haven't installed it yet. I can't seem to access the page and the tutorial, but if it's actually simple we shall try it at once :)

[Walthur]

OK, I tried it with an MKV I have encoded, and multiavchd uses it alright - but my friend gets a message saying "If you see this, encoding may not work"...I directed him to install everything as I told him, he configured it with the filter preference tweaker, what's going on?

[setarip_old]

You said: I want to rip & re-encode my 1080p BluRays to MKV

I said: BTW - Using "multiAVCHD" to make compressed .MKVs from Blu-ray .M2TS movie-only file is basically (Plus a few "Okays") as simple as:

1) Load the .M2TS file


You said: I tried it with an MKV I have encoded

(Also, I have no idea about how you created the .MKV file)

Try again, with an .M2TS file decrypted from a legitimate, commercial Blu-ray disc, as I originally suggested...

(BTW - I have no idea what you mean by the "filter preference tweaker")

[Walthur]

Since I have no bluray drive, I tried it out with the closest thing I had at hand ( I still needed to take a look at the interface) - an MKV I encoded from uncompressed RGB footage.
My friend used it on a legit m2ts file - and where the video preview should be in the app, it says "If you see this message, transcoding might now work" and it doesn't.
The bitrate suggestion tool isn't able to calculate any examples, and he tried with 10.000 kbits (to achieve ~8 GB) but the resulting file was starting to turn out larger than the 35GB .m2ts.

We wanted to turn to the tutorial on the creator's website, but I haven't been able to access it since yesterday :/

Edit: I don't recall the exact name, but it lets you select what decoders / splitters to use for what format by default, instead of the MS ones. (ffdshow in this case)