Combing on my output from cce

[subair37]

Hi Friends i have done MCCE using CCE SP2 and done a comparison with the source DVD9 ,but what i see is the CCE i done is i can see some interlacing issues horizontal lines comes and goes .Is there any way i can avoid these lines in my future works, Is there any trcks to avoid these lines i mean in AVS script or any other means please shed some light on thses...........

[manono]

Post your script and a small sample, 10 seconds or so of the untouched source, one showing steady movement.

And welcome to the forum.

[subair37]

Hi

Please help me my source when i analyzed using Megui i got it as Hybrid Film mostly interlaced Interlaced ,field order as bottom field first but when i encode using CCE SP2 and after playing on my Panasonic Bluerayplayer i can see horizontal lines comes and goes .How can i get rid of these horizontal lines please Help me ..............This is my avs script.


LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\megui\tools\dgindex\DGDecode.dll")
DGDecode_mpeg2source("D:\Demuxed\Pramani.d2v", cpu=4, info=3)
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\megui\tools\avisynth_plugin\ColorMatrix.dll")
ColorMatrix(hints=true, interlaced=true, threads=0)
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\megui\tools\avisynth_plugin\TIVTC.dll")
tfm(order=0).tdecimate(hybrid=3)
crop( 4, 0, -4, 0)

LanczosResize(720,480) # Lanczos (Sharp)
#denoise
converttoyuy2()
AddAudio()

If i add converttoyuy2()interlaced=true

can i get rid of those lines.Please Help

[Guest]

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[manono]

Post your script and a small sample, 10 seconds or so of the untouched source, one showing steady movement. .....

[Guest]

@subair37

To make a sample, open your VOB in DGIndex. Use the [ and ] buttons to set a range around an area that gives you problems. Then do File/Save project and demux video. You will get an M2V file. Upload it to mediafire.com and post the link here.

[subair37]

@subair37

To make a sample, open your VOB in DGIndex. Use the [ and ] buttons to set a range around an area that gives you problems. Then do File/Save project and demux video. You will get an M2V file. Upload it to mediafire.com and post the link here.

Hi thanks

now my problem is a error i am facing when i am muxing with ac3 audio with 19ms delay which i done everything properly .This is the error i get when i finish muxing.

http://i56.tinypic.com/2hok8yh.png


I had this same error b4 with another project but that time i have to start everything from the begining again.

Can some one explain to me why this error i am getting .Please Help.....

[manono]

What happened to the sample? Why waste our time with questions if you have no intention in fulfilling the requests so we can help?

As for the Muxman problem, open the Celltimes.txt, subtract 25 from the last cell frame number, and try again. Either that or just delete that last number and VobBlanker will later replace it with a new one. Also, didn't you notice the red warning about not loading the subtitles correctly? Load the sub and hit 'Wide', advance the stream counter to 2, load the same sub again and hit 'LB'.

[subair37]

Hi

a one Million thanks , you are superb , I got it fixed the way you said to me , I subtracted 25 from the last frame number in cell times magic it worked.also i did not know about the subtitles problem that also sorted out, you are a genius mate, at the moment i am encoding using CCE SP2 software but i got CCE SP3 software as well , but dont know how to use it like SP2 , Can you help me to learn CCE SP3 what is is the advantage of using sp3 over sp2 will the picture quality be even better or no change or any other benefits.Please Can you shed some light on this ,I do Manual CCE of DVDR i mean DVD9 to DVD5.Please give me some tips about SP3.


Also i use 1+2passes on my current CCE SP2 is that enough or shall i have to go for 1+3 passess.Please advice

[manono]

I don't use SP3. There's a whole thread on it in this forum. And what? No more combing/interlacing? With SP2 I use 1+4. Some use less, others use more.

[subair37]

I don't use SP3. There's a whole thread on it in this forum. And what? No more combing/interlacing? With SP2 I use 1+4. Some use less, others use more.

As you mentioned i am doing the same project again on a 1+4 pass.Is more pass means will that improve picture quality also is there any filters available which i can use in Megui to improve the picture qulity of the project .Please shed some light on these things as i am quiet new on these MCCE

[manono]

Since you refuse to post a sample, then who knows what you have and how best to treat it? I'd bet dollars to donuts, though, that you have a field blended DVD and trying to perform an IVTC is a very poor way to try and fix it. Separate the fields or bob it and check for blends/ghosts/double images. Don't rely on MeGUI's analysis since, for Indian DVDs, it's often wrong.

Doing more passes helps even out the Q-Level curve, to make it more like the settings you made. It also allows you to get closer to the size you wanted. It won't make any noticeable difference in the quality. As for filters, again, a sample will be needed.

[subair37]

Since you refuse to post a sample, then who knows what you have and how best to treat it? I'd bet dollars to donuts, though, that you have a field blended DVD and trying to perform an IVTC is a very poor way to try and fix it. Separate the fields or bob it and check for blends/ghosts/double images. Don't rely on MeGUI's analysis since, for Indian DVDs, it's often wrong.

Doing more passes helps even out the Q-Level curve, to make it more like the settings you made. It also allows you to get closer to the size you wanted. It won't make any noticeable difference in the quality. As for filters, again, a sample will be needed.

Hi Friend

Please find attached the sample as i was having interlacing issues.


http://www.mediafire.com/myfiles.php



All Moserbaer DVDs got these interlacing problems.Can you give me some tips to avoid interlacing issues.

[Guest]

You've copied the link wrong. It does not link to any file.

[subair37]

It was working b4 i try to download it dont know what happened.Can i try megaupload or something else

[Guest]

That link could never have worked. Please do it again and follow their instructions carefully about how to copy the link.

[manono]

Go find your file at MediaFire and hit the 'Share' button to get the link. Copy and Paste that here, not a link to your files (which, for me, links to my own files at MediaFire, and which for others won't link to anything useful).
Can you give me some tips to avoid interlacing issues.
Yes, as soon as we can see the source file.

[subair37]

Go find your file at MediaFire and hit the 'Share' button to get the link. Copy and Paste that here, not a link to your files (which, for me, links to my own files at MediaFire, and which for others won't link to anything useful).

Yes, as soon as we can see the source file.


Hi

Please find the link.


http://www.mediafire.com/?j119q7135fcea74



http://www.mediafire.com/file/j119q7135fcea74/Pramaniinterlaced.demuxed.m2v


http://www.mediafire.com/?j119q7135fcea74


not sure which one so try all of these.Thanks

[Guest]

It's typical blended-field video resulting from a standards conversion. Search for unblending solutions.

http://www.google.com/search?q=unblending+site%3Aforum.doom9.org&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1

http://www.google.com/search?q=blended+fields+site%3Aforum.doom9.org&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1

SRestore is commonly used for footage like this.

[subair37]

It's typical blended-field video resulting from a standards conversion. Search for unblending solutions.

http://www.google.com/search?q=unblending+site%3Aforum.doom9.org&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1

http://www.google.com/search?q=blended+fields+site%3Aforum.doom9.org&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1

SRestore is commonly used for footage like this.

Hi

As i am compleately new to these terms can you please explain to me how to sort this if possible step by step please........

[manono]

Post ... a small sample, 10 seconds or so of the untouched source, one showing steady movement.

I ask for 10 seconds and you give us over 2 minutes? 10 well chosen seconds would have been plenty to see that it is just as neuron2 said and what I speculated it was earlier, field-blended from a poor standards conversion. This is all Moserbaer puts out.

Yadif(Mode=1)#or your favorite bobber
RePAL()#or:
#Srestore()

Yadif and RePAL here:

http://avisynth.org/warpenterprises/

SRestore Here:

http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/Srestore

[subair37]

I ask for 10 seconds and you give us over 2 minutes? 10 well chosen seconds would have been plenty to see that it is just as neuron2 said and what I speculated it was earlier, field-blended from a poor standards conversion. This is all Moserbaer puts out.

Yadif(Mode=1)#or your favorite bobber
RePAL()#or:
#Srestore()

Yadif and RePAL here:

http://avisynth.org/warpenterprises/

SRestore Here:

http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/Srestore


Hi

Thanks bit confused now the Yadiff/Mode=1# these script shall i have to use it at the end of my avs script or what about the collection of filters you give me on that link, how do i find out the correct filter i need shall i have to download the filter and put it in Avisynth plugin folder or Can you please give me a brief step by step instruction on how to do this as i am bit thick i say .Looking forward to your valued help


Hi also is this the script i have to use in my avs script for my problem


NTSC, two pass (enables use of conCycleTP parameter) mkv vfr for hybrid source.
First pass:
mpeg2source("c:\oursource.d2v")
tfm(d2v="c:\oursource.d2v",output="matches.txt")
tdecimate(mode=4,output="metrics.txt")
Second pass (not anime or cartoon):
mpeg2source("c:\oursource.d2v")
tfm(d2v="c:\oursource.d2v",input="matches.txt")
tdecimate(mode=5,hybrid=2,vfrDec=0,input="metrics.txt",tfmIn="matches.txt",mkvOut="mkv-timecodesfile.txt")
Second pass (anime or cartoon):
mpeg2source("c:\oursource.d2v")
tfm(d2v="c:\oursource.d2v",input="matches.txt")
tdecimate(mode=5,hybrid=2,vfrDec=1,input="metrics.txt",tfmIn="matches.txt",mkvOut="mkv-timecodesfile.txt")


replace the word oursource to my filename.d2v also what about the filters , Please please please


i am eager to learn this please teach me.......

[manono]

It's not a hybrid source. It's not VFR. You don't want to use TIVTC as it was never telecined and thus can't be Inverse Telecined (IVTC).

The easiest way to do it is with Yadif and RePAL, although SRestore sometimes gives better quality output and there are other better (but much slower) bobbers than Yadif. Get both filters from that link, read the included docs about how to set them up in your script. Load the script into VDub(Mod), at least for testing purposes if you don't intend to use it for encoding, and report any error messages you can't figure out.

[subair37]

It's not a hybrid source. It's not VFR. You don't want to use TIVTC as it was never telecined and thus can't be Inverse Telecined (IVTC).

The easiest way to do it is with Yadif and RePAL, although SRestore sometimes gives better quality output and there are other better (but much slower) bobbers than Yadif. Get both filters from that link, read the included docs about how to set them up in your script. Load the script into VDub(Mod), at least for testing purposes if you don't intend to use it for encoding, and report any error messages you can't figure out.

Hi

Thanks i have successfully downloaded those 2 filters yadiff and repal unzip them , shall i have to put these two folders or contents of its folders in to Avisynth plugins folder ?

Also interms of scripting is there any additional lines i have to add in my avs script when using these filters .Also how do i make out which filter to choose ?


My source is always Moserbaer which when i analyse in Megui i get the source type as Hybrid and interlaced mostly interlaced field order bottom field first .

But when i use Central DVDs their source type is film type .

So how do i make out which one to use and when.Please teach me.........

[Guest]

[moving to Avisynth Usage, as it is only vaguely related to MPEG2 encoding now]

[manono]

A typical script might go:

LoadPlugin("C:\Path\To\DGDecode.dll")
LoadCPlugin("C:\Path\To\Yadif.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Path\To\RePAL.dll")
MPEG2Source("C:\Path\To\Movie.d2v")

Yadif(Mode=1)
RePAL()

That's the easier one to set up. SRestore is more difficult. That script is for the sample you provided earlier.

[subair37]

A typical script might go:

LoadPlugin("C:\Path\To\DGDecode.dll")
LoadCPlugin("C:\Path\To\Yadif.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Path\To\RePAL.dll")
MPEG2Source("C:\Path\To\Movie.d2v")

Yadif(Mode=1)
RePAL()

That's the easier one to set up. SRestore is more difficult. That script is for the sample you provided earlier.

Hi Thanks

now the big question is how do i select the yadiff filter where is it in megui i can see yadiff folder which is in tools folder of megui how do i select that can you shed some light on these, also shall i have to ignore the bit of analyse in megui as u said my source is not hybrid but megui analyse says it is hybrid.

This is the script i used for the source i senbd to you.


LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\megui\tools\dgindex\DGDecode.dll")
DGDecode_mpeg2source("C:\Demuxed\Pramani.d2v", cpu=2, info=3)
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\megui\tools\avisynth_plugin\ColorMatrix.dll")
ColorMatrix(hints=true, interlaced=true, threads=0)
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\megui\tools\avisynth_plugin\TIVTC.dll")
tfm(order=0).tdecimate(hybrid=3)
#crop
#resize
#denoise
addborders(0,50,0,50)
lanczos4resize(720,480)
ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)
AddAudio()

[manono]

Hi Friends i have done MCCE using CCE SP2 and done a comparison with the source DVD9 ,but what i see is the CCE i done is i can see some interlacing issues horizontal lines comes and goes .Is there any way i can avoid these lines in my future works, Is there any trcks to avoid these lines i mean in AVS script or any other means please shed some light on thses...........
That's your first post. What does MeGUI have to do with anything? Aren't you making a DVD? Just adapt the script I gave you (fill in the paths for your version of the script), open it in VDub(Mod) to test that it works, and then feed it into CCE,

You don't need the ColorMatrix filter. You don't need the AddAudio line. You don't need the AddBorders line. You don't need the LanczosResize line. Don't use TFM/TDecimate. You can convert to YUY2, but by the time you do that it's no longer interlaced, but progressive, so leave out the interlaced part. There's not much in your script that makes any sense.

[subair37]

That's your first post. What does MeGUI have to do with anything? Aren't you making a DVD? Just adapt the script I gave you (fill in the paths for your version of the script), open it in VDub(Mod) to test that it works, and then feed it into CCE,

You don't need the ColorMatrix filter. You don't need the AddAudio line. You don't need the AddBorders line. You don't need the LanczosResize line. Don't use TFM/TDecimate. You can convert to YUY2, but by the time you do that it's no longer interlaced, but progressive, so leave out the interlaced part. There's not much in your script that makes any sense.


LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\megui\tools\dgindex\DGDecode.dll")
DGDecode_mpeg2source("D:\Demuxed\Janakan.d2v", cpu=4, info=3)
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\megui\tools\avisynth_plugin\ColorMatrix.dll")
ColorMatrix(hints=true, interlaced=true, threads=0)
Load_Stdcall_Plugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\megui\tools\yadif\yadif.dll")
Yadif(order=0)
crop( 2, 0, -2, 0)

LanczosResize(720,480) # Lanczos (Sharp)
#denoise
ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)
AddAudio()


This is the script i used now nad i used source as interlaced and used yadiffbob as filter and bottomfield first as field order.

if i dont have to use lancoseresize 720 480 that mean i dont have to tick crop and resize rite, instead what should i use ?

ConverttoYUY2 i use other wise i get error in CCE

AddAudio i use because otherwise my CCE stuck at 10 or 12 percent.

Can you please shed some light on my script and also tell me how to get repal filter in to megui because i tried and i couldnt make it.Please help.........


Just now played this DVD in my Panasonic BD85 Bluerayplayer cannote believe the quality which is insane i think i can see some shrpness which i think i clould have used this line

LimitedSharpenfaster(streangth=50)

Is this a right line to get the sharpness right also is sharpness means you can notice some small dots like dont know how to explain


tweak(bright=7,sat=10,cont=1.0,hue=3)

Can you also explain to me what this line will do in the script.
One of my mate give me this line , Any good in using my next project ? Please advice ...........

[subair37]

That's your first post. What does MeGUI have to do with anything? Aren't you making a DVD? Just adapt the script I gave you (fill in the paths for your version of the script), open it in VDub(Mod) to test that it works, and then feed it into CCE,

You don't need the ColorMatrix filter. You don't need the AddAudio line. You don't need the AddBorders line. You don't need the LanczosResize line. Don't use TFM/TDecimate. You can convert to YUY2, but by the time you do that it's no longer interlaced, but progressive, so leave out the interlaced part. There's not much in your script that makes any sense.

hi

Can you please give me a reply to the post i mentioned above, also please tell me how to get repal filter in to my megui, only yadiff and yadiffbob listed under drop down menu but no repal can i use yadiff and repal at the same time , how to get repal filter in to my megui or drop these .dll files in to my Avisynth folder please advice.Looking forward to hearing from you soon as i have to start a new project now which i send you the sample b4 going to do with these filters yadiffbob and repal.

[manono]

This is the script i used now nad i used source as interlaced and used yadiffbob as filter and bottomfield first as field order.
In your script above Yadif isn't being used as a bobber. I already explained how to use it. Or read the included doc.
ConverttoYUY2 i use other wise i get error in CCE
I said that you don't need Interlaced=True because by the time you ConvertToYUY2, your source is no longer interlaced.
AddAudio i use because otherwise my CCE stuck at 10 or 12 percent.
What version of CCE are you using (Help->About)? It's been a very long time since AddAudio was required.
Can you please shed some light on my script and also tell me how to get repal filter in to megui
I don't use MeGUI. Perhaps someone else can help. The usual procedure is to put the DLL in the AviSynth Plugins folder and either use a LoadPlugin line in the script or allow it to load automatically. I always use LoadPlugin myself.
tweak(bright=7,sat=10,cont=1.0,hue=3)

Can you also explain to me what this line will do in the script.
One of my mate give me this line
Read the doc for Tweak. One thing's for sure, though, that you don't want Sat=10. Tweak settings are adjusted for each film. Some don't need it at all.

http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/Tweak

[subair37]

In your script above Yadif isn't being used as a bobber. I already explained how to use it. Or read the included doc.

I said that you don't need Interlaced=True because by the time you ConvertToYUY2, your source is no longer interlaced.

What version of CCE are you using (Help->About)? It's been a very long time since AddAudio was required.

I don't use MeGUI. Perhaps someone else can help. The usual procedure is to put the DLL in the AviSynth Plugins folder and either use a LoadPlugin line in the script or allow it to load automatically. I always use LoadPlugin myself.

Read the doc for Tweak. One thing's for sure, though, that you don't want Sat=10. Tweak settings are adjusted for each film. Some don't need it at all.

http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/Tweak


I used this script now


LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\megui\tools\dgindex\DGDecode.dll")
DGDecode_mpeg2source("D:\Demuxed\Janakan.d2v")
Load_Stdcall_Plugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\megui\tools\yadif\yadif.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\megui\tools\RePal\RePal.dll")
Yadif(Mode=1)
RePal()
crop( 2, 0, -2, 0)

LanczosResize(720,480) # Lanczos (Sharp)
#denoise
ConvertToYUY2
AddAudio()



Says unable to load RePal.dll plugin.

Please help



hi

Thanks for your reply so what i am going to do is drag and drop yadiff and repal plugins in to my avisynth plugins folder .

Regarding my CCE Version i use CCE SP2 Ver 1.00.01.04
SDK version 2.70 built on Aug 9 2007.

i try to find out the document how to install yadiff filter inside yadiff folder but i couldnt find out so can you tell me which document to look for and how to do it please .

Reagrding tweaking the link you supplied is very helpful.

Please clear my doubts and help me please.......

[manono]

The Yadif.html comes included in the yadif ZIP package. To use it as a bobber you set Mode=1.

[Guest]

Says unable to load RePal.dll plugin. Since you are loading it explicitly, you need to copy it to your MEGUI tools directory. Alternately, do not load it explicitly.

[subair37]

Since you are loading it explicitly, you need to copy it to your MEGUI tools directory. Alternately, do not load it explicitly.

i copied all the contents of yadiff and RePal folder in to megui tools avisynth plugins folder but RePal is not listed under the dropdown box.This is the script i made now to do it .Please throw some comments.

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\megui\tools\dgindex\DGDecode.dll")
DGDecode_mpeg2source("D:\Demuxed\Janakan.d2v", cpu=4, info=3)
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\megui\tools\avisynth_plugin\ColorMatrix.dll")
ColorMatrix(hints=true, interlaced=true, threads=0)
Load_Stdcall_Plugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\megui\tools\yadif\yadif.dll")
Yadif(mode=1)
crop( 2, 0, -2, 0)

LanczosResize(720,480) # Lanczos (Sharp)
#denoise
ConvertToYUY2
AddAudio()


I think picture quality looks better with out tweaKING VALUES.

[Guest]

So you're just bobbing now? Does that give you the frame rate you are looking for?

[Alex_ander]

You have forgotten to put RePAL() just after yadif().

[subair37]

So you're just bobbing now? Does that give you the frame rate you are looking for?

Hi

I really dont know the difference between usinf yadiff and usinf yadiffbob i used yadiffbob picture quality is good dont know what is that doing for frame rate ,Can you please tell me the difference between using yadiff and yadiffbob .
Also if source type is Film what should i use yadiff or some thing else .

Regarding RePal i am getting an error i transfered all the contents of RePal folder in to Megui tools avisynthplugins folder cannote load RePal.Please help me to sort that out.

[Alex_ander]

That error usually means an attempt to load the plugin twice: by auto-loading from a special folder + by script command. Try to remove it from plugins folder(s) and only do it in script.

[manono]

If you're making a DVD, what do you need MeGUI for anyway? Make a script, test it in VDub(Mod), and load it directly into CCE, All you're doing is bobbing it and to unblend it you need to bob it followed by either RePAL or SRestore. And, again, you don't need the ColorMatrix filter for this. I'm assuming the movie is still the same one for which you provided the sample earlier.

Yadif in the default Mode=0 is a single rate deinterlacer. You get back the same original framerate (29.97fps). Yadif used as a bobber (Mode=1) gives you back twice the original framerate (59.94fps)

[subair37]

That error usually means an attempt to load the plugin twice: by auto-loading from a special folder + by script command. Try to remove it from plugins folder(s) and only do it in script.

I dont think i can move it because i transfereed all over to the plugins folder i mean all the contents.other wise i have to go and delete the repal.dll only rite.

[subair37]

If you're making a DVD, what do you need MeGUI for anyway? Make a script, test it in VDub(Mod), and load it directly into CCE, All you're doing is bobbing it and to unblend it you need to bob it followed by either RePAL or SRestore. And, again, you don't need the ColorMatrix filter for this. I'm assuming the movie is still the same one for which you provided the sample earlier.

Yadif in the default Mode=0 is a single rate deinterlacer. You get back the same original framerate (29.97fps). Yadif used as a bobber (Mode=1) gives you back twice the original framerate (59.94fps)

I use Megui mainly for making a d2v file from the mainmovie of the Videots folder then load the d2v file play with the settings like yadiff adjust the script make an .avs file load it in to CCE.
That is why i use Megui for my first process.

[Alex_ander]

yadif is only here for making double framerate before RePAL (which decimates 59.94 to 24.975 in the end). If you already have RePAL in auto-load folder you won't get error 'can't load plugin' if you write RePAL() command.

[subair37]

yadif is only here for making double framerate before RePAL (which decimates 59.94 to 24.975 in the end). If you already have RePAL in auto-load folder you won't get error 'can't load plugin' if you write RePAL() command.

I tried get in to autoload folder but cannote get there, please explain to me how to get Repal in autoload folder i tried but failed.please help i know it should be in Megui tools folder i paste the folder over there but cannote get it under drop down

I find out something now if i use yadiff mode=1 then the frame rate is doubled 54.97 where as if i use yadiffwith bob mode=0 then i get the right frame rate 29.97.

[Alex_ander]

Apart from Megui (I don't know if/how it loads plugins) that folder is here:
c:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\

I'd first try to add the RePAL() line after yadif(). If you get an error 'There's no function named RePAL()', that would mean it is not auto-loaded (then simply put the .dll into plugins folder). If you don't get that error, then it already works.

[subair37]

Apart from Megui (I don't know if/how it loads plugins) that folder is here:
c:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\

I'd first try to add the RePAL() line after yadif(). If you get an error 'There's no function named RePAL()', that would mean it is not auto-loaded (then simply put the .dll into plugins folder). If you don't get that error, then it already works.

This time it worked i drop repal.dll in to avisynth plugin folder put RePal() after Yadiff(Mode=1).

I got the frame rate as 24.9750249 In CCE settings i select frame rate 24.Is this right or shall i have to select 25 ?

[manono]

Select 25fps in CCE. Then when done, apply DGPulldown with the custom setting 24.975->29.97.
I use Megui mainly for making a d2v file from the mainmovie of the Videots folder then load the d2v file play with the settings like yadiff adjust the script make an .avs file load it in to CCE.
That is why i use Megui for my first process.
You have DGIndex. Make your own D2V project file. Make a few 'template' scripts to make the job easier in the future. You'll only have to adjust the names and filtering.

[subair37]

Select 25fps in CCE. Then when done, apply DGPulldown with the custom setting 24.975->29.97.

You have DGIndex. Make your own D2V project file. Make a few 'template' scripts to make the job easier in the future. You'll only have to adjust the names and filtering.

Can you please advice me what do i select for a film type source i will be doing my another project which is a Central Malayalam DVD is always film type and frame rate is 29.97 think their dvds are progressive.Can you please advice me the settings for that.

[manono]

No one will advise anything without a sample. Make it smaller this time - much smaller. Just be sure there's steady movement.

[subair37]

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\megui\tools\dgindex\DGDecode.dll")
DGDecode_mpeg2source("D:\Demuxed\Nayakan.d2v", cpu=4, info=3)
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\megui\tools\avisynth_plugin\ColorMatrix.dll")
ColorMatrix(hints=true, interlaced=true, threads=0)
Load_Stdcall_Plugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\megui\tools\yadif\yadif.dll")
Yadif(Mode=1)
RePal()
crop( 2, 0, -2, 0)

LanczosResize(720,480) # Lanczos (Sharp)
#denoise
ConvertToYUY2
AddAudio()
tweak(sat=1.25,cont=1.5,hue=3)


This is the script i used for encoding , but unfortunately got problem this time , gone very slow in speed b4 all the encoding i was doing at speed 1.28 but this one gone very slow to 0.25 dont know why is this becaue i use tweak in script , i used to finish encoding in about 4 to 6 hours with 3 to 4 pass but now show as 25 hours so i closed it down an error window pop up saying time code different in 2 nd pass.Is this any thing wrong with my script this is the same script i used to encode all the time apart from tweak values .My pc is Dual Core Pentium 4 GB RAM it is a laptop.Please Help...........

What is this cpu=4 info=3 stands for ?

Please Please.............Help...........

[manono]

...this is the same script i used to encode all the time apart from tweak values
How can that be true if this is the first time you've ever used an unblender (RePAL). RePAL is slowing you down. Your computer is old, obsolete, and slow. Many people when using cpu intensive scripts first make a lossless AVI followed by using that AVI in an AviSynth script with AVISource to feed it into CCE. Some use HuffYUV (larger sizes, faster decoding), others use Lagarith (smaller sizes, slower decoding), others use something else. I use Lagarith.

http://www.videohelp.com/tools?toolsearch=lossless&Submit=Search&convert=&s=&orderby=Name&hits=50

And your script still sucks. I've told you several times that when going from DVD9 to DVD5 you don't need the ColorMatrix filter. Your crop and resize creates a slight aspect error, assuming the aspect ratio of the DVD is correct, always a big assumption where Indian DVDs are concerned. Your Cont value in Tweak completely blows out the whites before then clipping them back to 235. Unless there's blocking in the source (I see none) you don't need the CPU=4 setting which will just make this source softer than it already is. If there is blocking I'd much prefer to use DeBlock_QED. I'd do it like this:

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\megui\tools\dgindex\DGDecode.dll")
DGDecode_mpeg2source("D:\Demuxed\Nayakan.d2v")
Load_Stdcall_Plugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\megui\tools\yadif\yadif.dll")
Yadif(Mode=1)
RePal()
Crop(2,58,-2,-60)
Tweak(Sat=1.15,Bright=2,Cont=0.93,Coring=False)
AddBorders(2,58,2,60)
ConvertToYUY2()
AddAudio()

This is just my opinion, worth about what you paid for it.
What is this cpu=4 info=3 stands for ?
You're using things and you don't know what they do? Read the DGDecodeManual.html.

[subair37]

How can that be true if this is the first time you've ever used an unblender (RePAL). RePAL is slowing you down. Your computer is old, obsolete, and slow. Many people when using cpu intensive scripts first make a lossless AVI followed by using that AVI in an AviSynth script with AVISource to feed it into CCE. Some use HuffYUV (larger sizes, faster decoding), others use Lagarith (smaller sizes, slower decoding), others use something else. I use Lagarith.

http://www.videohelp.com/tools?toolsearch=lossless&Submit=Search&convert=&s=&orderby=Name&hits=50

And your script still sucks. I've told you several times that when going from DVD9 to DVD5 you don't need the ColorMatrix filter. Your crop and resize creates a slight aspect error, assuming the aspect ratio of the DVD is correct, always a big assumption where Indian DVDs are concerned. Your Cont value in Tweak completely blows out the whites before then clipping them back to 235. Unless there's blocking in the source (I see none) you don't need the CPU=4 setting which will just make this source softer than it already is. If there is blocking I'd much prefer to use DeBlock_QED. I'd do it like this:

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\megui\tools\dgindex\DGDecode.dll")
DGDecode_mpeg2source("D:\Demuxed\Nayakan.d2v")
Load_Stdcall_Plugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\megui\tools\yadif\yadif.dll")
Yadif(Mode=1)
RePal()
Crop(2,58,-2,-60)
Tweak(Sat=1.15,Bright=2,Cont=0.93,Coring=False)
AddBorders(2,58,2,60)
ConvertToYUY2()
AddAudio()

This is just my opinion, worth about what you paid for it.

You're using things and you don't know what they do? Read the DGDecodeManual.html.


Hi Thanks Mate

Your script is fantastic i previewd it very good picture quality Hatts off , Can i keep this script as a template for my other future projects.Brillinat u are Genius.

[subair37]

A trick I used to get a 2 pass encode to work with v1.0.3.1 was do a VBR Analysis Pass with the setting you like... close SP3 and save settings... restart your PC... after the reboot, start SP3 and open your saved project... change VBR Analysis Pass to Multipass VBR and the click on the "Bit allocation..." button... may take a few sec... once the allocation screen loads click on the "Encode" button... may take a few sec for the encoding to start.

Really no need for this with 1.0.4.1 but worked pretty well on most encodings with 1.0.3.1


I copied this thread from CCE SP3 forum.Can some one advice me can i try sp3 with my avs script and try these settings as mentioned earlier.What is the advantage of using SP3 over SP2 ?Please advice...........

[manono]

This thread has been moved to the AviSynth Forum. For CCE advice, either ask in the SP3 thread in the MPEG-2 Encoding Forum or start a new thread there.

[subair37]

No one will advise anything without a sample. Make it smaller this time - much smaller. Just be sure there's steady movement.

Hi

Can you please advice me is this a progressive source ,what type of filter i use to get the best possible results ,what tweak values i have to give .....Please help.........


http://www.mediafire.com/?uafwlozxtjnta2f

http://www.mediafire.com/file/uafwlozxtjnta2f/In%20Ghost%20House.demuxed.m2v


I am only using CCE SP2 as SP3 i dont think i can make it.Please help me on this..................

[Guest]

Can you please advice me is this a progressive source At some point you'll need to figure out how to analyze sources on your own. Please see here for a process for doing that. See questions 1 and 2.

http://neuron2.net/faq.html

I'd be happy to help you to understand that process and apply it.

what type of filter i use to get the best possible results According to forum rule 12, you should not ask for what's best, because best is subjective. How can we know what is best for you? If you see some problem(s) in the video, then please state them and ask what can be used to help fix those problems.

[manono]

As neuron2 says, a lot of this is subjective. There are a lot of blended frames in there, about which nothing can be done. Nor is it entirely progressive. I'd do it like this (after making the D2V using 'Honor Pulldown Flags'):

TFM(D2V="C:\Path\To\Movie.d2v").TDecimate()
Crop(2,56,0,-56)
Tweak(Bright=3,Cont=0.94,Coring=False)
AddBorders(2,56,0,56)

Someone else would handle it differently.

[subair37]

At some point you'll need to figure out how to analyze sources on your own. Please see here for a process for doing that. See questions 1 and 2.

http://neuron2.net/faq.html

I'd be happy to help you to understand that process and apply it.

According to forum rule 12, you should not ask for what's best, because best is subjective. How can we know what is best for you? If you see some problem(s) in the video, then please state them and ask what can be used to help fix those problems.


Hi

Thanks , how do i get virtual dub never used b4 , where can i get virtual dub.Please help

[Guest]

You can find it with a Google search.

[subair37]

Can some one explain to me how to load the script on to viurtual dub please

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\megui\tools\dgindex\DGDecode.dll")
DGDecode_mpeg2source("D:\Demuxed\Ghost House.d2v")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\megui\tools\avisynth_plugin\TIVTC.dll")
tfm(order=1).tdecimate()
crop( 2, 56, 0, -56)

#resize
#denoise
Tweak(Bright=3,Cont=0.94,Coring=False)
AddBorders(2,56,0,56)
ConvertToYUY2
AddAudio()


This is the script i used to feed in to CCE, when i analysed in Megui i get source type as Film field orer as Topfield first and TIVTC .so i decided to go ahead with it because i done know how to create script and load on virtual dub i tried it but it says error.if some one can explain to me step by step please.........

[Alex_ander]

Just drag'n'drop .avs onto it (don't try 'run script', that's for VDub's internal ones).

[manono]

Can some one explain to me how to load the script on to viurtual dub please
File->Open Video File. Or drag and drop. If you get an error message and you don't know what it means, post it here.

[subair37]

File->Open Video File. Or drag and drop. If you get an error message and you don't know what it means, post it here.

Drag and drop the script means the avs script you create with the d2v file and the d2v file u create with DGindex all in Megui , I use Megui to create d2v file and load d2v file in Megui to create the avs script , so that is the same script you wanna me to drag and drop virtual dub right please advice.............

Hi

I open my avs script in virtual dub now please tell me step by step what is the next process.I am sort of stuck here now.......

[Guest]

I open my avs script in virtual dub now please tell me step by step what is the next process.I am sort of stuck here now....... Please read and follow my FAQ instructions and if something is confusing tell me what it is. I'll try to set you straight and also improve the FAQ to make it less confusing. Thank you.

[subair37]

Please read and follow my FAQ instructions and if something is confusing tell me what it is. I'll try to set you straight and also improve the FAQ to make it less confusing. Thank you.

Hi thanks

shall i have to add this also in my avs script

MPEG2Source("Ghosrhouse.d2v")
AssumeTFF()
SeparateFields()

after open the script in virtual dub what is meant by step through the fields in high motion means ?

Where is this aabbcc apear , or where i have to look for it ?

Please help

[Guest]

shall i have to add this also in my avs script

MPEG2Source("Ghosrhouse.d2v")
AssumeTFF()
SeparateFields() Yes, but you may have to use AssumeBFF() instead. See question 2 for that.

after open the script in virtual dub what is meant by step through the fields in high motion means ? Just open the AVS script with File/Open video file... Your video will appear as half height because you have separated the fields. To step just use the normal VirtualDub way to step forward by frames, except it will be by fields now. Pick an area of the clip where there is a lot of motion.

Where is this aabbcc apear , or where i have to look for it ? The letters are just labels for what a field looks like. Suppose the section you look at is a car driving from right to left. Say you have it at one position, call that 'a'. Now you step forward by one in VirtualDub. If the car moved toward the left, then you have a new picture. Call it 'b'. So you have ab so far. If the car did not move after stepping by one then you have aa. So, for pure interlaced video, you would have the car moving on every step:

abcdefg...

For progressive you will see pairs:

aabbccddee

For 3:2 pulldown (hard or soft), you will see:

aaabbcccddeeeff...

You can see why it is called 3:2.

Sometimes anime has a lot of duplicate frames prior to pulldown. In those cases you have to know the above and also use your experience.

[manono]

And don't just add that to your script, but also remove all other lines/filtering. No IVTC or anything else. Make a script with just 4 lines, the DGDecode line, the MPEG2Source line, the AssumeBFF and the SeparateFields.

[Guest]

Yes, thanks for clarifying that. :)

[subair37]

Yes, but you may have to use AssumeBFF() instead. See question 2 for that.

Just open the AVS script with File/Open video file... Your video will appear as half height because you have separated the fields. To step just use the normal VirtualDub way to step forward by frames, except it will be by fields now. Pick an area of the clip where there is a lot of motion.

The letters are just labels for what a field looks like. Suppose the section you look at is a car driving from right to left. Say you have it at one position, call that 'a'. Now you step forward by one in VirtualDub. If the car moved toward the left, then you have a new picture. Call it 'b'. So you have ab so far. If the car did not move after stepping by one then you have aa. So, for pure interlaced video, you would have the car moving on every step:

abcdefg...

For progressive you will see pairs:

aabbccddee

For 3:2 pulldown (hard or soft), you will see:

aaabbcccddeeeff...

You can see why it is called 3:2.

Sometimes anime has a lot of duplicate frames prior to pulldown. In those cases you have to know the above and also use your experience.

not very sure but can see both moving in every frame can say progressive but when i select this in megui progressive i was getting horizontal lines to clear that i have to chose megui analyse one film top field first and ivtc.so please shed some light on this.

[manono]

Look, this isn't rocket science. All it requires is some reading and a bit of common sense. Forget MeGUI! Take these four lines:

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\megui\tools\dgindex\DGDecode.dll")
DGDecode_mpeg2source("D:\Demuxed\Nayakan.d2v")#Edit the name for different movies
AssumeTFF()
SeparateFields()

Save them in a text file, but with the extension as '.avs' rather than '.txt'. Open it in VDub(Mod), scroll to a place with motion, and start advancing a frame at a time. Then follow neuron2's posts and his FAQ to figure out what you have and how best to treat it.

[Guest]

not very sure but can see both moving in every frame can say progressive. You have to be sure! Is it so hard to write down what you see? Write a for the first step. Then step one. If nothing moved, then write a again. If something moved write b. As you step write the next letter if things moved for that step, otherwise write the same letter again. If you end up with abcdefg... then it is interlaced. So,if you separated fields in your script and then stepped in VirtualDub and see a new picture (movement) in EVERY step, then it is interlaced, not progressive.

Tell us the letter sequence you see in a motion scene. I can't really make it any simpler than that so try to follow it and tell us what result you get or where you get stuck.

Ditto manono: forget MEGUI for analyzing your video.

[subair37]

You have to be sure! Is it so hard to write down what you see? Write a for the first step. Then step one. If nothing moved, then write a again. If something moved write b. As you step write the next letter if things moved for that step, otherwise write the same letter again. If you end up with abcdefg... then it is interlaced. So,if you separated fields in your script and then stepped in VirtualDub and see a new picture (movement) in EVERY step, then it is interlaced, not progressive.

Tell us the letter sequence you see in a motion scene. I can't really make it any simpler than that so try to follow it and tell us what result you get or where you get stuck.

Ditto manono: forget MEGUI for analyzing your video.


Hi

Thanks the letter sequence i get is aabbccdd

i was getting movement in the second window when i click on the frame thing that what i have to look for na

if moved next letter

if not same letter again

Please clarify....................

Can say this progressive but i dont agree because in megui when i select progressive i was getting horizontallines.To get rid of that lines i need to put it back to Film and field order top field first and tivtc as deinterlacer so this is bit confusing as i say unless there is some other explanation...............

[Guest]

Thanks the letter sequence i get is aabbccdd That looks progressive.

i was getting movement in the second window when i click on the frame thing that what i have to look for na

if moved next letter

if not same letter again

Please clarify.................... I wish I could but your statements above are unintelligible to me.

Can say this progressive but i dont agree because in megui when i select progressive i was getting horizontallines. Which clip is it? Did you post a link to it? The last time you posted links you gave two, so which is this clip that you are talking about?

Let's establish what you have first and then worry about what MEGUI is doing with it.

[subair37]

That looks progressive.

I wish I could but your statements above are unintelligible to me.

You could have a field shift or you've messed things up in the script. Which clip is it? Did you post a link to it? The last time you posted links you gave two, so which is this clip that you are talking about?

Let's establish what you have first and then worry about what MEGUI is doing with it.


Yep the last clipping i gave you , which is what i am talking about in Megui when i select progressive i was getting horizontal lines checked few places by moving the curson.
But for a fact that i know all Central DVDs are Progressive and Moserbaer ones are interlaced , very easy to find out but still with Central Progressive one in Megui after progressive getting lines Confusing ?

[manono]

But for a fact that i know all Central DVDs are Progressive and Moserbaer ones are interlaced , very easy to find out but still with Central Progressive one in Megui after progressive getting lines Confusing ?
No, not so confusing. Sometimes what you know for a fact isn't quite a fact at all. The last sample wasn't 100% progressive. Open the D2V in Notepad and look at the very bottom where it will tell you the film percentage. Unless it says 100% FILM, it's not purely progressive and may have some interlacing. I already gave you a script to handle your so-called 'progressive' DVD. Even if it is progressive, unless you make the D2V with the Field Operation set for Forced Film, you'll still see the interlacing.

You've already been advised to stop using MeGUI to analyze these things and learn to do it yourself.

[Guest]

manono is right. The DGIndex Info dialog can give you additional clues.

You can't analyze (with field stepping) one small part of the clip and assume it applies to the whole movie. When you saw the combing, you should have noted that part and then gone back and stepped through that area. You would have seen that it has the signature of interlacing or you see blending.

I can't look at your clips because mediafire.com appears to be down right now.

[Guest]

OK, I looked at the In Ghost... clip. Use AssumeBFF().

The pattern is clearly aaabbcccddeee... which means it is 3:2 pulldown. Why did you say it is aabbccdd...?

[subair37]

OK, I looked at the In Ghost... clip. Use AssumeBFF().

The pattern is clearly aaabbcccddeee... which means it is 3:2 pulldown. Why did you say it is aabbccdd...?

when i click on that button it is like a play button it started playing not stoping unless u click on the stop button and stop .picture on the next window not changing.so how u going to do with the step by step .1st button from left is stop button 2nd is play button 3rd is also like a play button so i am clicking the right button.Please help..........

[Guest]

For single step, it's the sixth button from the left: >>

[subair37]

For single step, it's the sixth button from the left: >>

Can you please exlain to me how i analyse step by step

say if i click 2nd button from the left > that one how do i consider as one step cauze when i click on it it starts playing picture on the 2nd window not changing ok fine but shall i have to click the stop button and stop it or how do i go on to the 2nd step and 3rd step and so on.Please explain...........

One more help Can i do my 720p upscale with avs script or use megui and encode video but how do i get rid of audio delay especially when i select dts audio stream.

Final product after m2ts using ts muxer give me file size over 4.3GB how can i get it in a DVD-R disk Please help...........

[Guest]

Can you please exlain to me how i analyse step by step

say if i click 2nd button from the left > Did you read what I posted? The button to use is the sixth one from the left >>.

(Forget what I told you earlier in the PM, I misread your question.)

One more help Can i do my 720p upscale with avs script or use megui and encode video but how do i get rid of audio delay especially when i select dts audio stream.

Final product after m2ts using ts muxer give me file size over 4.3GB how can i get it in a DVD-R disk Please help........... That's off topic for this thread.

[subair37]

How can we change the out put size on the screen using avs script , the last one upscale using avs script i got it only like a box size in the middle of the 50 inch plasma screen.Please help..............

[manono]

Did you encode it as 4:3 rather than as 16:9? If you did, the AviSynth script you used has nothing to do with it, but you might post the complete script just in case. And upscaling is a waste of time, especially for lousy Indian DVDs and especially if you don't know what you're doing.