DVDshrink, data cyclic redundancy error.

[Koby]

Several movies pop up with "data cyclic redundancy error" when trying to rip with DVDshrink. Some other movies, just don't even pull up the files at all. Then there is some where it pulls up a huge list under "main movies" but none of them work or will rip.

I don't know what to do to get them to rip.

I've tried DVD Decrypter, but it just keeps popping up an I/O error saying "unrecovered read error".

I've even tried DVD43 in conjuction with DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink, with no luck.

What solution would you recommend that will actually work?

[AMED]

make sure the disc is clean and try again, if it's very scratched the disc may be gone.

[setarip_old]

@Koby

Hi!

Although each of the programs you've mentioned continue to prove to be useful/usable with many DVDs, they are fairly old and as a consequence, there are many DVDs these programs CANNOT properly process.

Try (freeware version) DVDFabHD Decrypter (Yes, it works with standard DVDs)

[Koby]

I tried DVDFabHD, and all it did was sit there saying opening video, but it never did.

[setarip_old]

What are the SPECIFIC problematic DVD titles and region numbers?

[Koby]

Well the title I was trying the other day was Zombie Land... region 1.

[odditory]

If there's some kind of new or nonstandard structural protection with Zombieland then your best bet might be AnyDVDHD.

If the issue isn't related to some new copy protection / DRM / nonstandard formatting of the commercial disc and its a matter of trying to get damaged sectors read then I'd be using DVD Decrypter and saving to an ISO on harddisk because it happens to be good at hammering away at unreadable sectors. If and when DVD Decrypter finishes ripping then I'd mount the ISO with VirtualCloneDrive and then re-rip with AnyDVDHD because it happens to be very good at repairing structure damage- it's been literally a "last resort" tool in many worst case scenarios where the DVD rip would've otherwise been a write-off.

[Ghitulescu]

You might have a broken DVD drive. Change it!

[Koby]

You might have a broken DVD drive. Change it!
There is nothing wrong with my drive. It burns and rips fine. It's just particular movies that these programs are having problems with, and I'm looking for a way to either fix the programs, or find a program that will work to rip them.

[AMED]

so there could be nothing wrong with the actual disc?

[Ghitulescu]

No copy protection I know locks ALL THE FILES on a DVD, and such a disk won't work anywhere ... See your OT -> "Some other movies, just don't even pull up the files at all."

[setarip_old]

@Ghitulescu

I don't know if they're still using it, but our "good friends" at SONY, as well as some others (Miramax, LionsGate, if I remember correctly) used to place an Autorun file on their releases that, if allowed to run unabated, would generate a "no disc in drive" error message.

1) Such a file in no way affects playback on a standalone unit

2) Holding down the "Shift" key while loading such a disc proved to be a simple solution for circumventing the Autorun

[Koby]

@Ghitulescu

I don't know if they're still using it, but our "good friends" at SONY, as well as some others (Miramax, LionsGate, if I remember correctly) used to place an Autorun file on their releases that, if allowed to run unabated, would generate a "no disc in drive" error message.

1) Such a file in no way affects playback on a standalone unit

2) Holding down the "Shift" key while loading such a disc proved to be a simple solution for circumventing the Autorun
Except, I don't get that error. It pulls up the dvd on DVDshrink in those cases.. but it has no video files to select for ripping.
It would still play if I tried watching it with Power DVD though.

[setarip_old]

@Koby

I wasn't suggesting that you were getting that error.

Look carefully at my post - It's addressed to "Ghitulescu, as a response to his previous post.

I'd suggest you try cleaning your discs and run a DVD/CD cleaning disc on your DVD Reader/Burner. Maxell makes one that sells for about $10US...

[Ghitulescu]

@Ghitulescu

I don't know if they're still using it, but our "good friends" at SONY, as well as some others (Miramax, LionsGate, if I remember correctly) used to place an Autorun file on their releases that, if allowed to run unabated, would generate a "no disc in drive" error message.

1) Such a file in no way affects playback on a standalone unit

2) Holding down the "Shift" key while loading such a disc proved to be a simple solution for circumventing the Autorun
I am aware of these tricks, however none of my computer has the autorun enabled. I thought most people do the same...my mistake.
For item 2) this worked up to a certain version of windows, I have no idea which, because Bill Gates changed this in response to media content providers.
While I am aware, in general, of these tricks, I have no personal experience with such disks, I'll have a look on my newest Sony disks, could one indicate me a list of hard to rip DVDs RC2 (Germany), I like this challenge :)
Anyway, CRC errors are either CP symptoms or bad shape DVD disk/DVD drive

[Koby]

I'm now trying Old Dogs... and when I try in DVDshrink the program freezes and the RAM usage goes off the charts to the point I have to hit ctrl+alt+delete to bring up Task Manager and end the DVDshrink process.

I then tried DVDdecryptor.. which ended up doing the exact same thing.

I then put in another dvd "Whiteout" and it rips fine.

After looking at it, the problems I'm having only happen on certain company DVD's. For example, Buena Vista and Paramount DVD's I cannot seem to rip as they all end up having some kind of problem with these ripping programs.

[setarip_old]

I guess you don't read very carefully.

As I said in my first post to this thread:

Although each of the programs you've mentioned continue to prove to be useful/usable with many DVDs, they are fairly old and as a consequence, there are many DVDs these programs CANNOT properly process.

Try (freeware version) DVDFabHD Decrypter (Yes, it works with standard DVDs)

[Ghitulescu]

Actually, if you want the main movie only, and not a fully backup, you may have luck even with your old tools, if you know how. Since I don't care about menus, trailers, biographies and other "interesting" items and stuff, I never have a "non-ripable" problem with any movie I've tried. Sony included, but not a Bueno Vista, yet, I think.

Some if not most CP schemes make use of unreadable sectors. If your originals are scratched, this would make the extraction even more difficult, as DVDFab & Co. might think that a "scratched" sector is a CP one, so you'll end with a defective rip.

Change your reader (some drives interpolate in the background without letting you know it), clean/polish your disks, use a better decrypter (dvdfab & co), use isobuster/isopuzzle + a dvd image mounter and extract it from there. In no particular order :p

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@Koby:
Please understand that there's no universal solution, ie one that works with every movie. Look in the corresponding subforum and see methods for each film.

[Koby]

I guess you don't read very carefully.

As I said in my first post to this thread:

Although each of the programs you've mentioned continue to prove to be useful/usable with many DVDs, they are fairly old and as a consequence, there are many DVDs these programs CANNOT properly process.

Try (freeware version) DVDFabHD Decrypter (Yes, it works with standard DVDs)
Apparently you are the one that can't read as I replied to you.

I tried DVDFabHD, and all it did was sit there saying opening video, but it never did.

@ Ghitulescu, well I usually re-encode the movies to h264 .mp4 for playback on a PC. So I usually only rip the main movie from the discs.

Sony discs have no problem usually.. so I found it odd Zombieland wouldn't work. Almost every disc I've had a problem with was Paramount and Buena Vista. I Googled up info about it, and apparently these two companies are both delving into ways to prevent ripping and protect the movies.

[setarip_old]

@Koby

I was referring to the following, which is part of your Post #16 in this thread:when I try in DVDshrink the program freezes and the RAM usage goes off the charts to the point I have to hit ctrl+alt+delete to bring up Task Manager and end the DVDshrink process.

I then tried DVDdecryptor.. which ended up doing the exact same thing.

[Koby]

@Koby

I was referring to the following, which is part of your Post #16 in this thread:

Like I said...

DVDFabHD will not even open any video I tried.. it just sit there saying opening video, but it never did.
So apparently of all the programs it's the worst solution. >_<

[Ghitulescu]

Ok, if you want our help, then please list these items:

1. the DVDs you try to rip, including the names and the versions (maybe the EAN code)
2. your DVD/BD drive model
3. your OS including SP
4. your ripping software, including versions
5. methodology: what steps and in which order did you followed?

Then you'll have at least one idea.