How do you make m-720p

[wisenheimer]

I saw a fellow watching a really gorgeous HD movie on his laptop at the airport the other day. When I inquired, he said it was a blu-ray rip. I said "Doesn't a file like that take up a lot of room?" He said "Not really" and then did a properties check on it. It was between 2.5-3GB (mkv). I was impressed.

I noticed the title had "m-720p" in the title. I went home and Googled it and found out that the "m" stands for "micro" (or so I thought I read).

What kind of software would be used to get a full size blu-ray rip down to that size with that much beauty? Is the "m" a standard, or merely just an adjective to describe something that shrunken?

[deank]

BD Rebuilder (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716) will let you shrink a Blu-ray to about 4GB. If you use the main movie only and create a MKV out of it, you can get ~ 3GB file as one the airport fellow had. :)

[Dark Shikari]

2.5-3GB is pretty standard for a 720p rip done with x264; doesn't seem to be anything "micro" about that to me.

[wisenheimer]

Thanks and thanks.

@Dark Shikari - What program would you use to get that x264 result?

[rack04]

Thanks and thanks.

@Dark Shikari - What program would you use to get that x264 result?

Wild guess. x264?

[wisenheimer]

I thought that x264 was the codec used by other programs? (e.g. Handbrake)

Good one, though, providing I'm wrong.

[Dark Shikari]

I thought that x264 was the codec used by other programs? (e.g. Handbrake)

Good one, though, providing I'm wrong.x264 is a piece of software, an encoder. Various programs, like handbrake, encode using x264.

[wisenheimer]

Thought so. So do you have a program preference for what utilizes x264 best?

[Dark Shikari]

Thought so. So do you have a program preference for what utilizes x264 best?x264, of course ;)

But if you want an idiot-proof GUI, Handbrake does pretty well. Select High Profile, *click*, encode. And maybe lower the quality a bit if you want a smaller filesize.

[crl2007]

I saw a fellow watching a really gorgeous HD movie on his laptop at the airport the other day. When I inquired, he said it was a blu-ray rip. I said "Doesn't a file like that take up a lot of room?" He said "Not really" and then did a properties check on it. It was between 2.5-3GB (mkv). I was impressed.

I noticed the title had "m-720p" in the title. I went home and Googled it and found out that the "m" stands for "micro" (or so I thought I read).

What kind of software would be used to get a full size blu-ray rip down to that size with that much beauty? Is the "m" a standard, or merely just an adjective to describe something that shrunken?

That "m" is the movie name. Pirate groups use these abbreviations. For example: The Machinist 720p - rlsgroup is tm720p-rlsgroup.

[wisenheimer]

@ Dark Shikari Okay... now I'm confused. How do you use x264 to encode without a program to do the encoding? Or can I not handle the truth. :)

@crl2007 - This wasn't the name. The movie was Public Enemies. But it had m720p and then .mkv in the file name.

[Dark Shikari]

@ Dark Shikari Okay... now I'm confused. How do you use x264 to encode without a program to do the encoding?x264 is a program to do the encoding.

[deank]

x264.exe is an encoder program. Actually it is THE BEST and free encoder for H.264/AVC videos.

Various tools provide GUI interface to ease users like you get the benefits of the H.264 (P10), using x264 to encode a video from a file or a frame server like avisynth or virtualdub.

[wisenheimer]

So if x264 is a program that will encode (and the best, at that) then why would anyone use another program at all? Or is that your point?

In other words, why would I want to use handbrake that uses x264 when I can eliminate the middle-man and use x264, directly? Or is x264 a "non-GUI-theres-no-way-a-noob-like-you-can-figure-it-out" type of program? ;)

[deank]

I don't know why would you. Launch x264 (which is a CLI, not a GUI program) and explore its options and use it.

[Dark Shikari]

So if x264 is a program that will encode (and the best, at that) then why would anyone use another program at all?Because commandlines are scary, obviously :p

[wisenheimer]

Ahhhh.... it's command line... Now I get it! Thanks, fellows!!!

I'd better stick to Handbrake. I can't even get my dogs to follow a command!

Thanks, again!

[crl2007]

@ Dark Shikari Okay... now I'm confused. How do you use x264 to encode without a program to do the encoding? Or can I not handle the truth. :)

@crl2007 - This wasn't the name. The movie was Public Enemies. But it had m720p and then .mkv in the file name.

The same, those are abbreviations used by pirates.

You could also use MeGUI. It has many profiles from which to choose.

[wisenheimer]

I can go with that. This was a random stranger. I am not sure of the source of his material.

Here's a question:

mp4/m4v is a container that can hold h264, correct? And mkv is a container that can hold h264, too, correct? Can the file, then, be taken from one container and just placed in another. I know that m4v cannot hold the same number/types of elements (subtitles, digital audio, etc) as an mkv. I am talking about the video and audio files, specifically. It would be really nice to have these mkvs for my HTPC, where I want the subtitles and Dolby Digital 5.1, but be able to drag the h264 video out of them and put them in a m4v container for my iPod when subtitles and digital is irrelevant.

[Dark Shikari]

I can go with that. This was a random stranger. I am not sure of the source of his material.

Here's a question:

mp4/m4v is a container that can hold h264, correct? And mkv is a container that can hold h264, too, correct? Can the file, then, be taken from one container and just placed in another. I know that m4v cannot hold the same number/types of elements (subtitles, digital audio, etc) as an mkv. I am talking about the video and audio files, specifically. It would be really nice to have these mkvs for my HTPC, where I want the subtitles and Dolby Digital 5.1, but be able to drag the h264 video out of them and put them in a m4v container for my iPod when subtitles and digital is irrelevant.Sure you can remux, but iPods are not going to play 720p High Profile video.

[wisenheimer]

I'm down with that... most of my stuff, at this point, is SD.

Sorry to keep firing off questions (gotta learn somehow, right?) What would I use to "remux"?

[Dark Shikari]

I'm down with that... most of my stuff, at this point, is SD.But is it iPod-compatible Baseline Profile? Probably not.

(Unless by "iPod" you mean "iPod Touch 3G", and you're willing to bypass iTunes.)

[Guest]

Moved to Newbies as the original forum was off topic and the questions are becoming decidedly noobish.

[wisenheimer]

I am not sure what that means. My iPod is a 5th gen. Up to this point I have been using the ipod preset of handbrake to make videos for it, specifically.

But for converting my DVDs to mkv for storage purposes, I have created and saved my own profile: MKV, loose anmorphic, * x 480 aspect ratio, no cropping, no video filters, H264 codec, constant quality 60.78%. I then add the audio tracks and subtitles, manually. For Audio, I leave the first track is the default ACC, then I add AC3 passthru as the second track. For subtitles, I add them manually (can't be saved in a profile anyway, right) as best as I can. I do not understand subtitles very well. 'Chapters' and 'Advanced' tabs I ignore.

[wisenheimer]

Moved to Newbies as the original forum was off topic and the questions are becoming decidedly noobish.

Guess my "non-GUI-theres-no-way-a-noob-like-you-can-figure-it-out" comment wasn't too off base then, huh?

[rack04]

Open Notepad and copy and paste the following:

@SET x264_PATH=C:\Program Files\x264\x264.exe
@SET Working_Directory=C:\Personal\Videos

@Echo off
"%x264_PATH%" --fullhelp >"%Working_Directory%\x264-fullhelp.txt

Edit x264_PATH and Working_Directory and save as x264_fullhelp.bat. Run x264_fullhelp.bat and it will output a text file called x264-fullhelp saved to where ever you set the Working_Directory. Read and become familiar with the commands and generate your own encoding profile.

[Dark Shikari]

Fullhelp is really unnecessary for a new user. The regular help, which is small enough to fit in the command window without scrolling off (just x264--help), should be sufficient.

[wisenheimer]

One thing I've learned, in life really, is that you never know how little you know.... until you learn more. Then, in retrospect, you realize you knew jack.

I wasn't sure whether or not to take offense at Neuron2's comment. I thought I was beginning to catch on. What you two just wrote makes me feel like he moved me to the Martian section. :) I see the words, but even the overarching concept is lost on me. Sorry.

I really have come to have a new respect for the folks on this forum, not just for their vast knowledge, but their willingness to help a know-nothing when there's really nothing in it for them but, perhaps, frustration.

[Guest]

I wasn't sure whether or not to take offense at Neuron2's comment. I thought I was beginning to catch on. What you two just wrote makes me feel like he moved me to the Martian section. :) I see the words, but even the overarching concept is lost on me. Sorry. Stay on topic or you can get a rule 3 strike. I will be happy to discuss this with you in PM if you wish.

[wisenheimer]

double post, sorry