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mrwhitethc
19th January 2010, 00:45
Hey guys, been doing a lot of these lately so I can watch them on my bluray player since it only likes NTSC dvd's. Anyway I've been able to do most of them with the DGPulldown trick but this one has me stumped.

Here's the sample:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/7x9cz4

It has a few, maybe 12 frames interlaced and then about 12 frames progressive. Anyone ever seen this before?

Thanks in advance.

Guest
19th January 2010, 02:01
It's the hard telecined equivalent of DGPulldown, i.e., film rate is pulled down to PAL using field duplication twice per second.

Try this:

assumebff()
telecide()
decimate(25)

mrwhitethc
19th January 2010, 03:29
Thanks Neuron2,

Question, for some reason when I use telecide() I get a flickering green bar at the bottom of the screen. However if I use this:

TFM(d2v="pal.d2v")
Tdecimate(rate=25)
crop( 12, 4, -12, 0)
Spline36Resize(720,480)

It works, and gives me the same framecount/length in VirtualDub no green line. So I encode this, which is at 24fps, not 23.976fps, and then us DGPulldown in 24fps -> 29.976 mode and then mux in the original ac3 no stretching needed, is that correct?

manono
19th January 2010, 04:14
Question, for some reason when I use telecide() I get a flickering green bar at the bottom of the screen.

I don't. Perhaps it has to do with your crop/resize and their place in the script. Plus, your crop and resize mess up the aspect ratio. Try this:

assumebff()#make sure when using the whole movie, it's also really BFF
telecide()
decimate(25)
crop( 10, 4, -12, 0)
Spline36Resize(704,480)
AddBorders(8,0,8,0)

When you use this:

TFM(d2v="pal.d2v")
Tdecimate(rate=25)

don't you get 20fps? If you want to use TIVTC, try this:

TFM(d2v="pal.d2v")
TDecimate(Mode=0,Cycle=25,CycleR=1)

Also, that source has horribly crushed blacks and blown whites which I would try and fix. Your use of DGPulldown and not stretching the audio is correct.

mrwhitethc
19th January 2010, 04:45
Thanks for the aspect ratio tip manono, weird if I use:

TFM(d2v="pal.d2v")
Tdecimate(rate=25)

with the clip I posted it is 20fps but if I use it with the whole film it's 24fps. No sure how to go about fixing the color problems. The greenbar could be something with my windows 7 install, I won't be able to get to an xp machine until tomorrow.