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consultant
15th January 2010, 17:16
I'm transcoding some DVDs to x264 to save HDD space. I'm using Handbrake with the High Profile, cRF 18, and Deinterlace=Fast. It looks good except during motion the outlines of things have jaggies where the source doesn't. Do I just need to set the cRF to 17.5 or 17 or should I change another setting like turn decomb on or something?
nm
15th January 2010, 17:33
What DVDs are you encoding? PAL or NTSC, movies or something else. What happens if you don't deinterlace?
consultant
15th January 2010, 17:44
Disney Aladdin - NTSC. I will play with settings but it is so time consuming. I was hoping someone would have some suggestions to cut down on the trial & error process.
Dark Shikari
15th January 2010, 17:47
Screenshot? Activity log? And wouldn't this be more relevant to the Handbrake forum?
consultant
15th January 2010, 17:51
I'm using both Handbrake and RipBot. I used Handbrake first simple because it can encode a folder of VOBs. Even though I only ripped the main movie, it still had it break the files up to make burning spare copy of the DVD easier. I just joined the VOBs and am going to see how RipBot does. I'm unclear though if on most DVDs the video is interlaced and need to be deinterlaced or not? I just figure it couldn't hurt.
Dark Shikari
15th January 2010, 17:54
I'm using both Handbrake and RipBot. I used Handbrake first simple because it can encode a folder of VOBs. Even though I only ripped the main movie, it still had it break the files up to make burning spare copy of the DVD easier. I just joined the VOBs and am going to see how RipBot does. I'm unclear though if on most DVDs the video is interlaced and need to be deinterlaced or not? I just figure it couldn't hurt.Read this (http://www.mod16.org/hurfdurf/?p=12).
LoRd_MuldeR
15th January 2010, 18:30
I'm unclear though if on most DVDs the video is interlaced and need to be deinterlaced or not? I just figure it couldn't hurt.
Wrong! Deinterlacing can hurt. And it does hurt in case you try to deinterlace video that already is progressive! In that case there's nothing to deinterlace, so applying a deinterlacer on progressive content will kill details for no benefit! Most (PAL) DVD's are progressive. That or they are telecined (NTSC). The latter needs an IVTC (Inverse Telecine) filter - not a deinterlacer! Deinterlacing is only possible/helpful for "true" interlaced video. And even then there are great differences between "good" (sophisticated) deinterlacers and "ungly" (fast/simple) ones. Indeed "jaggies" are a commonly seen artifact caused by deinterlacers of the "fast and ungly" kind. If you want really good deinterlacing, you better go the Avisynth route and use one of those fancy deinterlace scripts (see the Avisynth section for details).
Atak_Snajpera
15th January 2010, 18:34
I just joined the VOBs and am going to see how RipBot does. I'm unclear though if on most DVDs the video is interlaced and need to be deinterlaced or not? I just figure it couldn't hurt.
In my PAL world movies are encoded as progressive 25fps so you don't have to use deinterlacing at all. However in NTSC world everything is more complicated :( Movies are stored in 29.97 fps. They use telecine method ( 3 frames are progressive and 2 are interlaced) If you want to get true 23.976 make sure you select Inverse Telecine in ripbot264.
creamyhorror
16th January 2010, 06:12
Handbrake has Decomb and Detelecine, which will handle any interlacing, so I don't think you should be using Deinterlace. (You are using 0.9.4 or later, right?)
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