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k-c-ksum
6th January 2010, 17:25
when a movie is spread across multiple small m2ts files will bdrb recognise these as extras by mistake when quicker encode for extras is checked?
jdobbs
7th January 2010, 05:30
when a movie is spread across multiple small m2ts files will bdrb recognise these as extras by mistake when quicker encode for extras is checked?No. BD-RB reads the M2TS files and knows when multiple smaller components are a part of the main feature.

But... BD-RB assumes there is only one main feature, so "Quick Encode for Extras" shouldn't be selected for series discs.
Dark Shikari
7th January 2010, 05:33
Why not determine "extra" status based on the relative length of a video, i.e. the TSs that are much shorter than the longest TS on a disk are extras?

This should fix series disks.
jdobbs
7th January 2010, 18:43
Hmmm.... that might be a good idea.
Sharc
7th January 2010, 19:37
I don't think it would be reliable because the largest extra can be bigger than the smallest segment of the main feature (e.g. Gladiator IIRC)
jdobbs
7th January 2010, 20:04
I don't think it would be reliable because the largest extra can be bigger than the smallest segment of the main feature (e.g. Gladiator IIRC) You're not measuring segments, though, you're measuring total MPLS length -- and that's how it is being done now.
Sharc
7th January 2010, 20:09
Ah, total video length based on mpls. I agree.
k-c-ksum
7th January 2010, 21:55
thanks, i wasnt sure as there is no indication of what is part of the main movie and what isnt, some Disney br's here in europe contain hundreds of m2ts files covering foreign title video segment along with games in half a dozon languages intermixed with the english segments. My next question is can bdrb detect the main movie from the extras then would it be possible to resize them to 720p while keeping the main movie and intro 1080p?
jdobbs
8th January 2010, 00:08
thanks, i wasnt sure as there is no indication of what is part of the main movie and what isnt, some Disney br's here in europe contain hundreds of m2ts files covering foreign title video segment along with games in half a dozon languages intermixed with the english segments. My next question is can bdrb detect the main movie from the extras then would it be possible to resize them to 720p while keeping the main movie and intro 1080p? Probably at some point in the future, but not right now. You'll also find that on a lot of discs the extras are alread 720x480/576. Some authors like to use the same extras on DVD and Blu-ray.
k-c-ksum
9th January 2010, 13:25
some of the main movie files have been over compressed, the parts were there have rendered foreign language video segments have been endoded @ extras bitrate :( What if just copy over the original m2ts file to replace the over compressed ones,l would the structure still be intact or would the file size create issues? there is just enough space left to do this :)

edit - crap that didnt work, what if i remux the original video segment into a mkv container and replace it with the compressed 1 and rebuild?
jdobbs
9th January 2010, 16:19
some of the main movie files have been over compressed, the parts were there have rendered foreign language video segments have been endoded @ extras bitrate :( What if just copy over the original m2ts file to replace the over compressed ones,l would the structure still be intact or would the file size create issues? there is just enough space left to do this :)

edit - crap that didnt work, what if i remux the original video segment into a mkv container and replace it with the compressed 1 and rebuild? I've tested it thouroughly and it has always done the main-move correctly... please provide more information. Specifically what disc and MPLS files are you you referring to? Do you have a log and an INF file that shows the issue?
k-c-ksum
9th January 2010, 17:25
I've tested it thouroughly and it has always done the main-move correctly... please provide more information. Specifically what disc and MPLS files are you you referring to? Do you have a log and an INF file that shows the issue?

Bolt UK version


inf

[Status]
LABEL=BOLT_GBR
VERSION=v0.31.05 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=34299905290
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=33033357312
TARGET_SIZE=24117248000
REDUCTION=.691746219016589
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;enm;
BACKUP_MODE=0
QUICK=1
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=24
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[50246]
AUDIO=110000000
PGS=10000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=680014
RATE=30000
NSIZE=49152
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[50247]
AUDIO=110000000
PGS=10000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=680014
NSIZE=49152
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[50249]
AUDIO=110000000
PGS=10000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=680052
RATE=30000
NSIZE=98304
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[50250]
AUDIO=110000000
PGS=10000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=680069
RATE=30000
NSIZE=61440
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[50251]
AUDIO=110000000
PGS=10000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=680069
NSIZE=92160
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[50252]
AUDIO=110000000
PGS=10000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=680069
NSIZE=67584
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[50242]
AUDIO=110000000
PGS=10000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=53946479
NSIZE=32520192
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[50253]
AUDIO=110000000
PGS=10000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=90002891
NSIZE=37576704
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[50244]
AUDIO=110000000
PGS=10000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=92098353
NSIZE=38289408
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[50241]
AUDIO=110000000
PGS=10000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=102141354
RATE=18805
NSIZE=98439168
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00155]
AUDIO=1
PGS=000000
M2TS_TARGET=108583432
NSIZE=100823040
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00010]
AUDIO=100000
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=129585377
NSIZE=122400768
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[50240]
AUDIO=110000000
PGS=10000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=195425384
NSIZE=74115072
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[50248]
AUDIO=110000000
PGS=10000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=195651947
NSIZE=73961472
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00156]
AUDIO=1
PGS=
M2TS_TARGET=264591162
NSIZE=213368832
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00153]
AUDIO=1
PGS=000000
M2TS_TARGET=328781108
NSIZE=193210368
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00154]
AUDIO=1
PGS=000000
M2TS_TARGET=338886664
NSIZE=288497664
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[50239]
AUDIO=110000000
PGS=10000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=423765554
RATE=21876
NSIZE=410572800
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0
[00157]
AUDIO=1
PGS=000000
M2TS_TARGET=478880457
NSIZE=636057600
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00160]
AUDIO=100000
PGS=000000
M2TS_TARGET=696386310
NSIZE=267319296
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00159]
AUDIO=1
PGS=000000
M2TS_TARGET=708371997
NSIZE=676749312
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00158]
AUDIO=1
PGS=000000
M2TS_TARGET=1023089248
NSIZE=1096298496
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[50245]
AUDIO=110000000
PGS=10000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=8851177103
RATE=20497
NSIZE=8569307136
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[50243]
AUDIO=110000000
PGS=10000000000000
M2TS_TARGET=9920774902
RATE=21097
NSIZE=9609283584
FLINK=-1
MLINK=0


log
[16:35:53] BD Rebuilder v0.31.05 (beta)
- Source: BOLT_GBR
- Input BD size: 31.94 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:13:26.522]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[16:35:57] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:35:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50246]
- [16:35:58] Reencoding: VID_50246 (1 of 24)
- [16:35:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50247]
- [16:36:00] Reencoding: VID_50247 (2 of 24)
- [16:36:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50249]
- [16:36:01] Reencoding: VID_50249 (3 of 24)
- [16:36:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50250]
- [16:36:04] Reencoding: VID_50250 (4 of 24)
- [16:36:06] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50251]
- [16:36:06] Reencoding: VID_50251 (5 of 24)
- [16:36:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50252]
- [16:36:07] Reencoding: VID_50252 (6 of 24)
- [16:36:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50242]
- [16:36:10] Reencoding: VID_50242 (7 of 24)
- [16:36:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50253]
- [16:36:27] Reencoding: VID_50253 (8 of 24)
- [16:36:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50244]
- [16:36:50] Reencoding: VID_50244 (9 of 24)
- [16:37:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50241]
- [16:37:15] Reencoding: VID_50241 (10 of 24)
- [16:39:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00155]
- [16:40:02] Reencoding: VID_00155 (11 of 24)
- [16:41:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
- [16:41:13] Reencoding: VID_00010 (12 of 24)
- [16:41:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50240]
- [16:41:55] Reencoding: VID_50240 (13 of 24)
- [16:42:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50248]
- [16:42:44] Reencoding: VID_50248 (14 of 24)
- [16:43:24] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00156]
- [16:43:35] Reencoding: VID_00156 (15 of 24)
- [16:44:46] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00153]
- [16:44:59] Reencoding: VID_00153 (16 of 24)
- [16:48:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00154]
- [16:48:23] Reencoding: VID_00154 (17 of 24)
- [16:51:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50239]
- [16:52:08] Reencoding: VID_50239 (18 of 24)
- [17:02:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00157]
- [17:02:34] Reencoding: VID_00157 (19 of 24)
- [17:08:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00160]
- [17:08:30] Reencoding: VID_00160 (20 of 24)
- [17:11:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00159]
- [17:11:56] Reencoding: VID_00159 (21 of 24)
- [17:19:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00158]
- [17:20:21] Reencoding: VID_00158 (22 of 24)
- [17:31:32] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50245]
- [17:38:41] Reencoding: VID_50245 (23 of 24)
- [21:26:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_50243]
- [21:33:35] Reencoding: VID_50243 (24 of 24)


50240
50241
50242
50244
are the segments that have been compressed to much.


i have now demuxed the original segments and placed them im mkv files and put these in the workfiles folder,replacing the compressed ones, how can i rebuild the disk again as there is no option to rebuild again.
cheerz
k-c-ksum
10th January 2010, 11:25
anyway to rebuild again with re-encoding again?
jdobbs
10th January 2010, 14:36
anyway to rebuild again with re-encoding again?

Do you mean "without"? If you want to rebuild without reencoding (on a full disc backup) just hit "Backup" and say "yes" to resume. If you want to reencode, say "no" to resume.
k-c-ksum
10th January 2010, 17:48
Do you mean "without"? If you want to rebuild without reencoding (on a full disc backup) just hit "Backup" and say "yes" to resume. If you want to reencode, say "no" to resume.

it says the working folder is not empty. Didnt want to click yes incase it started from scratch.
jdobbs
10th January 2010, 18:12
it says the working folder is not empty. Didnt want to click yes incase it started from scratch. That means you have changed one of the critical settings. Set everything back to what it was when you did the original encode, and it will rebuild.
k-c-ksum
10th January 2010, 19:55
That means you have changed one of the critical settings. Set everything back to what it was when you did the original encode, and it will rebuild.

dont know whats diffrent, even when i save a project with specific audio tracks selected these get ignored upon loading up the project again. noticed all reencoded m2ts files get deleted after the rebuild so thats screwed my plans up anyway :(