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byme
6th November 2009, 16:22
(sorry for my english)


I have a board on the filters cleaning

Examples:


1) source

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2009/11/06/06/14/5804877_bigthumb.png (http://www.picamatic.com/view/5804877_nofilter/)


2) AviSource("E:\Capture\Capture8.avi").ConvertToYV12()
Deblock()
BlindPP(cpu=4)
MC_Spuds()
HQDering()
GradFunkMirror()
ConvertToRGB()

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2009/11/06/06/14/5804878_bigthumb.png (http://www.picamatic.com/view/5804878_spud/)


3) AviSource("E:\Capture\Capture8.avi").ConvertToYV12()
Deblock()
BlindPP(cpu=4)
MC_Spuds()
HQDering()
GradFunkMirror()
ConvertToRGB()

+ Neat Video

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2009/11/06/06/14/5804879_bigthumb.png (http://www.picamatic.com/view/5804879_spud+neatvideo/)


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Option 2 would not convince me, because the image rendered still too dirty

solution 3 is clean, but too smooth

What alternatives are there?

Terka
6th November 2009, 17:42
what about put overlay of neatvideo over MC_Spuds (similar to layers opacity in photoshop).
This means mix both together lets say
40%spuds-60%neat.
You can use overlay or i think neat video could have a possibility to remove only some percentage of noise.

CorruptNova
6th November 2009, 17:49
Could you upload a small (~30 sec) uncompressed sample for us to work with?

osgZach
6th November 2009, 17:58
I think the spud+neatvideo looks pretty good on its own, but could use a little sharpening after that, but I'm not a videophile either... so take that with a grain of salt I suppose.

Nightshiver
6th November 2009, 18:20
Agree with corrupt. Sample please.

Didée
6th November 2009, 18:54
Dunno if byme has noticed it, but MC_Spuds has a good bunch of parameters to influence the result. It might be a good idea to actually make use of those parameters.

It's like driving a car ... in order to drive at appropriate speed, you need to change gears and adjust gas pedal position.

Just sitting in and shouting "drive!" will not suffice.

byme
6th November 2009, 18:55
the deblocking, the BlindPP and mc_spuds I have deleted

I increased the cleaning with the Neat Video... and added LSFmod (before Neat Video)

the GradFunkMirror solves some problems of dirt (to be more precise ... squares of color)

my script

AviSource("E:\Capture\capture8.avi").ConvertToYV12()
LSFmod()
HQDering()
GradFunkMirror()
ConvertToRGB()

+ Neat Video

http://www.picamatic.com/show/2009/11/06/08/53/5806532_bigthumb.png (http://www.picamatic.com/view/5806532_nv/)

the LSFmod not increase much the sharpness


the sample video is in uploading...

byme
6th November 2009, 18:59
Dunno if byme has noticed it, but MC_Spuds has a good bunch of parameters to influence the result. It might be a good idea to actually make use of those parameters.

It's like driving a car ... in order to drive at appropriate speed, you need to change gears and adjust gas pedal position.

Just sitting in and shouting "drive!" will not suffice.

the MC_Spuds I deleted because I do not like ... but if you can tell me how to make it work better, thank you

Didée
6th November 2009, 19:20
... and added LSFmod (before Neat Video)

...

the LSFmod not increase much the sharpness

Hihi, splendid. Surely it does. Problem is that first LSF makes some careful changes. Then comes the NeatVideo bulldozer and makes everything flat again.
But the other way round wouldn't be much better ... if NeatVideo would first make everything flat, then nothing would be left over that LSF could rescue.

I've no interest to make all the work for you. (If you insist, contact me for details about salary-per-hour.)

Better put up a sample ... it seems there are lots of folks eagerly waiting to demonstrate you something.


the MC_Spuds I deleted because I do not like
You realized that you can't drive a car, and called a taxi?

acnetreatm
6th November 2009, 19:45
Better put up a sample. It's the best idea that can help us help you.

byme
6th November 2009, 19:59
sample in YV12, 158 MB

direct download (http://www7.multiupload.com/files/IPOZ8A4I1D/source.avi)

http://rapidshare.com/files/303298101/source.avi.html

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=N0NE201O

Nightshiver
6th November 2009, 21:55
I would suggest getting rid of neat video. There's no reason to have 2 sharpening filters on the same video. I could not find a feasible way to remove all of the blocking without overly smoothing the video, like you did. So, I would either do the best you can without over-sharpening or get a better capture.

byme
7th November 2009, 12:16
Hihi, splendid. Surely it does. Problem is that first LSF makes some careful changes. Then comes the NeatVideo bulldozer and makes everything flat again.
But the other way round wouldn't be much better ... if NeatVideo would first make everything flat, then nothing would be left over that LSF could rescue.

I've no interest to make all the work for you. (If you insist, contact me for details about salary-per-hour.)

Better put up a sample ... it seems there are lots of folks eagerly waiting to demonstrate you something.



You realized that you can't drive a car, and called a taxi?

sorry but I do not understand English very well

I have to contact you in private?
you could not help me in this thread?

Nightshiver
7th November 2009, 21:07
He is being sarcastic. And cynical. He probably wants you to find the solution yourself.