MakeMKV and BD+

[setarip_old]

It would seem that the monopoly regarding ripping BD+ BluRay discs is ending.

The following was posted at the "MakeMKV" website:Thank you for beta-testing MakeMKV. We are pleased to announce version 1.4.8. This version fixes several errors and contains initial implementation of BD+ engine.

Starting with version 1.4.8 MakeMKV supports BD+ portected discs, as long as disc-specific BD+ key is known in form of SVQ file. Please see http://www.makemkv.com/svq/ for the latest combined SVQ file. As for now this page contains no SVQ files but it contains instructions for sending us necessary information to create an disc-specific SVQ file. Most likely generic SVQs will not be released for the beta version.The program is available for download at the "MakeMKV" website...

Make certain to read the footnotes - There are (to me) some disconcerting statements...

[happycase]

You have to email them a dump file in order to decrypt a BD+ title?

[setarip_old]

I can confirm that the "send the Dump" and the MakeMKV folks will add the extracted info to a cumulative "SVQ file" concept works regarding ripping BD+ BluRay discs that were previously unable to be ripped without spending $100 or more

Congratulations to "Mike Chen" and associates ;>}

[PatlaborForce]

I can confirm that the "send the Dump" and the MakeMKV folks will add the extracted info to a cumulative "SVQ file" concept works regarding ripping BD+ BluRay discs that were previously unable to be ripped without spending $100 or more

Congratulations to "Mike Chen" and associates ;>}

Yes, but does this tool give me real-time removal of BD+ and AACS so that I can playback my Blu-Rays in any media player I want on my computer without having to rip the disk to my hard drive first? If so, it's not even remotely in the same league as AnyDVD HD in the total functionality it provides (ripping the disc being a small part). And unless it's going to be updated as frequently for new versions of BD+ and new MKB versions as Slysoft will, the money I spent on AnyDVD HD and the lifetime of free updates was more than worth it. People pay the extra money for the convenience that Slysoft and their tools provide. While it's nice that you'll eventually get some of the same features in a free tool it's far from being able to displace Slysoft's dominance.

[setarip_old]

@PatlaborForce

Hi!

My post points out one simple fact - There is now another program that will allow owners of BD+ protected BluRay discs to rip them - and the program is presently free of charge.

so that I can playback my Blu-Rays in any media player I want on my computer without having to rip the disk to my hard drive first?Most users that I know prefer to watch their backup copies of their BluRay movies on (typically much larger) HDTVs, in the comfort of their easy chairs and/or sofas.

Since, based on previous threads, I know that the moderators do not appreciate what they perceive to be "fanboy" back and forths, I'll say nothing further in response to your post.

I'm simply personally pleased to see the continued development of "MakeMKV" as a tool for the benefit of the community.

So, once again, congratulations to "Mike Chen" and associates ;>}

[PatlaborForce]

Most users that I know prefer to watch their backup copies of their BluRay movies on (typically much larger) HDTVs, in the comfort of their easy chairs and/or sofas.

I do watch my Blu-Ray movies on my HDTV from my sofa that are played from my computer hooked up to the HDTV. The point was that with AnyDVD i can just pop in the disc and play the m2ts files directly in whatever media player I want due to the real-time removal of BD+ and AACS something that this tool doesn't provide without needing something crappy like PowerDVD. And why would I need to create a backup copy when I can just play the original and save myself time, hard drive space and effort of creating a backup copy that I don't need? Also, there is no fanboying, it's pointing out that despite your claim this is in no way going to displace AnyDVD HD as that program provides far more functionality than simply ripping the disc. If anything based on your past posts it quite easy to see that you have a big bias against Slysoft. You seem to begrude the fact that they actually make money as a reward for all the effort they put into their tool which is always leading the pack on getting the latest BD+ and MKB version updates.

[k-c-ksum]

its so cool that there are now multiple sources that have cracked BD+. If only makemkv would go the whole hog and allow a full disc option

[setarip_old]

@k-c-ksum

Hi!If only makemkv would go the whole hog and allow a full disc optionYup - that's been suggested to "Mike Chen" several times. Perhaps with the user appreciation regarding the recent impressive BD+ addition, he/they will "see the light" (Especially since, from what I've been told by other programmers, that added capability should be very easy to accomplish, based on what "MakeMKV" already processes in order to create MKVs from BluRays) ;>}

[setarip_old]

I just wanted to confirm (based on my firsthand experience) that the "MakeMKV" cooperative method (users and author) of eliminating BD+ protection appears to be 100% successful.

As of a short while ago, the repository of BD+ dump submissions, which has been growing on a daily basis, totaled 121 BD+ titles.

Additionally, thusfar, the "MakeMKV" folks have been good to their word, consistently providing a maximum 24 hour turnaround time (from the time user submits dump until the title is added to the repository).

Considering the fact that this is presently a "freebie", the small amount of required user involvement is quite tolerable ;>}

[k-c-ksum]

when this comes out of beta hopfully it will allow full disc. I'll gladly pay for it.

[kurkosdr]

when this comes out of beta hopfully it will allow full disc. I'll gladly pay for it.

Sorry to crash the party, but the BD+ virtual machine changes everytime hollywood wants it to change. This makes current BD+ implementations useless, even the licensed ones.

Since I haven't been watching the news about BD+ for quite a time, did this nonsense of changing the BD+ VM every once in a while stopped? There was a time that you needed to update your player every time a new major bluray release (ex Slumdog Millionare) rolled out.

Even if Sony stopped that nonsense (huge public outrage) they are possibly going to do it again in the future, when some really big movie rolls out (ex the new James Bond)

The reason Any DVD HD manages to still crack Bluray is because they have paid employees that start working on the new BD+ versions the moment they appear, and even then, there is a waiting period. Unless Sony stops releasing new versions BD+, they 're no chance in hell free software can catch up.

By the way, what was the last time some new BD+ version was released?

[setarip_old]

@kurkosdr

Hi!

You seem to have an incomplete/inaccurate understanding of the (user cooperative) methodology being employed by MakeMKV that has thusfar made any BD+ BluRay disc rippable within 24 hours of "dump" submission to the MakeMKV site by the disc owner.

I'd suggest you read the information at the following MakeMKV link (and then, the additional link provided there):

http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=612

Also, if you perform a "search" here for "MakeMKV", you'll likely find several posts by "Mike Chen" explaining the methodology used, as well as the underlying information regarding BD+ ...

[kurkosdr]

Thanks for the answer. Sorry for being a noob, but all this Blu-Ray thing is far more compicated than plain old DVD. I have some more questions:

From your saying, does this mean that the BD+ VM implemantation on MakeMKV is perfect? And the only thing missing from the implementation are the keys?

Anyway, I don't get the whole "keys" thing. What do they do? Do different movies use different keys? How are keys retrieved from an commerical disc? (and why can't be done automatically?).

Generally, I would be gratefull if someone could tell me what exactly is the thing that changes every time a new version of BD+ rolls for out.
For example, what exactly did they change in Slumdog millionare some years ago and made it non-playable on may non-updated machines (and versions of any dvd hd).

[RunningSkittle]

kurkosdr, look here: http://forum.doom9.org/forumdisplay.php?f=9
and use search!