.ts or .mpg to .avi (for Premeire CS3)?

[jeffareid]

I have videoredoplus, which converts a .ts file to a .mpg file, which I then process with Adobe Premiere Pro CS3. This works with 720p, but fails with 1080i. Premiere will import the video, but the left 75% or so is garbled.

So now I'm trying to convert the original .ts file or the .mpg file created from video redo to a .avi file or to a .mov file (this was suggested by adobe support, but they didn't specify a program that could do this.)

I have quicktime pro, but it can't read the .mpg file, so I can't convert with that either.

[setarip_old]

Hi!

Please load the .MPG file into GSpot and post a screen capture back here...

[jeffareid]

I've already reported this problem to Adobe and they confirmed it is a problem.

Link to .mpg file (16MB):

http://jeffareid.net/misc/nd2009.mpg

Link to .bmp from Adobe frame export (6 MB):

http://jeffareid.net/misc/nd2009.bmp

[netmask]

Have you tried MPEGStreamclip to convert the TS to MPEG PS?
If you are in PAL land then using ProjectX would be better as it cleans up transmission errors etc in demux mode (only). I would use AutoGK to convert to AVI .

[jeffareid]

AutoGK outputs an Xvid video, after which Premiere complains it's an unsupported audio rate, but the audio rate isn't the real problem, just what Premeire Pro reports.

What I'd like is somethat that produces a lossless conversion to .MOV or .AVI format.

The alternative is to spend $300 to upgrade to CS4 which is claimed to not have this problem.

[netmask]

You can make an uncompressed AVI file from a MPEG file but the file will be huge. If what you mean by AVI in-fact is Xvid or DivX then the resulting file will be compressed, processed etc and certainly not lossless. What is your objective starting with the off air recording? In AutoGk you can click F11 to bring up some advanced Audio parameters.

I do much the same but use Womble to remux and add fx, like titles etc and a bit of tidying up in the editing and output a DVD conforming MPEG2 file that I then run into AutoGK.

I prefer to demux the TS file into separate audio, video and subtitle files as the process corrects numerous transmission errors, using ProjectX. I do basic cut edits in ProjectX, mostly top and tail before demuxing. You haven't revealed your jurisdiction NTSC or PAL? as it makes a difference to the approach and software to use.

[Inspector.Gadget]

Forget AutoGK. It doesn't do what you want to do here.

[netmask]

The mpg file plays ok in Vegas 8 and Womble and nothing like the still - curious the voices sound Australian to me or have I been watching to much US material? If so then the source would have been DVB 25 fps but the example is 29 fps.

[jeffareid]

The mpg file plays ok in Vegas 8 and Womble and nothing like the still.That's the issue, a bug in Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 (note the right 25% of the image isn't garbled). They claim it's fixed in CS4, or that if I convert the .mpg to some other format this wouldn't happen. Curious the voices sound Australian to me.It was a USA broadcast (Nascar at Daytona).

The source is a NTSC DVR box, converted from .TS to .MPG by VideoReDoPlus. My goal is to be able to import the 1920x1080i .TS output from the DVR into Adobe Premiere Pro CS3. There I can optionally resize it and/or convert it to .WMV, DVD, ...

Here's an example of a 720p video from the DVR that did work with VideoReDo -> Adobe -> .WMV file. It won't stream, so just do a save target as:

http://jeffareid.net/real/jfhr.wmv

[setarip_old]

Once again, please load the .MPG file (mentioned in your initial post) into GSpot and post a screen capture back here...

[jeffareid]

Once again, please load the .MPG file (mentioned in your initial post) into GSpot and post a screen capture back here... I don't understand, I provided links to the .MPG file that you can download from. What will uploading to GSpot and you downloading from GSpot do that you couldn't do by simply downloading from the links I already provided?

ts to aviSince direct stream copy isn't working, I'm probably looking for a ts to uncompressed avi converted. I tried one, but it didn't output any audio. I'll keep looking unless someone here knows of such a program.

[netmask]

Gspot http://www.headbands.com/gspot/ is a small program that shows all of the details of the file and produces a log file.

If you post the log file more info can be gleaned. Some people who may be able to assist may not have enough time or allocation to download the file.


Also what do you beleive an "uncompressed avi file" is? I suspect there maybe a terminology issue here as an uncompressed avi can be literally hundreds of times the size of the original file. For temporary editing purposes I recently converted a Xvid (avi) file of 358MB size to uncompressed AVI and the final size was 63GB - is this what you want?

[jeffareid]

Gspotlink to the log file:

http://jeffareid.net/misc/nd2009.txt

nd2009.mpg is the output of VideoReDo with direct stream copy for the video. CS3 doesn't like the .TS audio, so I have to convert it to MP3, which I do at 256kbps.

Also what do you beleive an "uncompressed avi file" is? Yes, in this case the clip I want is less than 3 minutes long, so it's not an issue.

I've only copied a long clip once for my wife. That one was 720p, so I was able to use a direct stream copy via VideoReDo, which CS3 was able to directly import. I split this up into 2 dvd's at 8 to 9 mbps, just under 1 hour each, which was good enough in this case.

I've considered getting a blu-ray burner but the media costs are high enough that it might make more sense to just connect a second computer to the HDTV and just keep the raw .TS files, since hard drives are so cheap.

[setarip_old]

@jeffareidI don't understand, I provided links to the .MPG file that you can download from. What will uploading to GSpot and you downloading from GSpot do that you couldn't do by simply downloading from the links I already provided?Simple - You post the GSpot screengrab ONCE - and anyone and everyone who might be interested in helping you can see the many details of your MPEG by viewing it - and then decide if they WISH to take the time to download your sample for further analysis...

[jeffareid]

You post the GSpot screengrabthis?:

http://jeffareid.net/misc/nd2009gs.jpg

[netmask]

I just made an uncompressed AVI from you MPG file using VirtualDub-MPEG2 http://home.comcast.net/~fcchandler/stable/index.html and the sound and picture looked ok. Personally I would persevere with trying to get Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 to work with the VideRedo produced MPEG2 file from the TS.
I use Sony Vegas on the PC and Final Cut Pro on my MAC but for simple jobs I find Womble quick and effective and it handles MPEG2 TS files directly and you can select which soundtrack if there are 2. Good luck :)

[jeffareid]

I just made an uncompressed AVI from you MPG file using VirtualDub-MPEG2Thanks that worked, huge file, but it worked.

Personally I would persevere with trying to get Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 to work with the VideRedo produced MPEG2 file from the TS.Seems to be a bug in CS3 that isn't going to get fixed. CS4 works with the file if when I get the budget for it.

[Ghitulescu]

Is it something that you can do only in CS3 and not in other [maybe free] videoeditors?

[jeffareid]

Is it something that you can do only in CS3 and not in other [maybe free] videoeditors?Probably not, but I'm used to CS3, and it's easy to setup and work with an initial frame size, in this case 1920x1080, but then have it auto-scale during export to lower sizes like 1280x720, or 856x480 (really 853.33 x 480), DVD, Blu-ray, ... without having to make any project changes.

Rather than having to choose between pre-selected formats, you can specify height, width, frame rate, de-interleave, frame rate, all in the export stage.

Another advantage to CS3 is the ability to make combined view videos like these:

http://jeffareid.net/ir/irssrad.wmv

http://jeffareid.net/nfs8/n8obcrl.wmv