Looking for a video sharing service using x264

[Amdh]

Hi everyone ! Please forgive me if this is not the right place for such a topic. I'm looking for a video sharing service using x264 for the encoding of uploaded videos, I've tried Youtube and Facebook, the problem is that they're limited to 10/20 minutes while almost all TV Shows are 50 Minutes. I've also tried Vimeo, the quality is excellent, however the 500 MB weekly limit is just killing me ! So, is there some kind of online video service that uses x264, supports big files (let's say 500 MB) and puts no limit on the length of the uploaded video ?

Note : It will be such an excellent support for x264 if you could compile a list of services using that codec for the purpose of online streaming or video sharing.

Thanks in advance !

[zn]

megavideo.com (aka megaupload.com), 1 gb limit, example of file

General
Complete name : E2D76E8F
Format : Flash Video
File size : 816 KiB
Duration : 11s 838ms
Overall bit rate : 564 Kbps
Tagged date : UTC 2009-06-18 10:01:06
Tagging application : MEGA

Video
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames
Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@4.1
Duration : 11s 838ms
Width : 416 pixels
Height : 272 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 1.500
Frame rate : 29.816 fps
Original frame rate : 29.970 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive

Audio
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format version : Version 4
Format profile : LC
Format settings, SBR : No
Duration : 11s 838ms
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits

[Amdh]

Thanks for the info friend, never knew that megavideo is using h264. I'm gonna try it !

Edit : I've just viewed a video of mine which i've previously uploaded to megaupload, the quality is by far worse than that of Youtube/Facebook (Blury image/too much visible blocks), considering the fact that the original video file has excellent quality, I'm expecting better results. Megavideo is maybe using a too low bitrate or some very fast settings that are not optimized for quality .. anyway, can someone suggest better alternatives ?

[Dark Shikari]

Are you sure they're using x264 though?

[St Devious]

Check the link in my sig for the guide. If you follow it you will be able to display the video on web using the quality you encode to, and your video won't be re-encoded.

[Amdh]

Are you sure they're using x264 though?

I don't think that megavideo is using x264. What I can insure is that Facebook is doing so. They encode all their videos to x264 at 1024 Kbps VBR

[Amdh]

Check the link in my sig for the guide. If you follow it you will be able to display the video on web using the quality you encode to, and your video won't be re-encoded.

Thanks friend, gonna have a look at that guide ...

[Dark Shikari]

I don't think that megavideo is using x264. What I can insure is that Facebook is doing so. They encode all their videos to x264 at 1024 Kbps VBR1024kbps? I'm pretty sure we set the cap at 600kbps for SD and 2500kbps for HD, though it's scaled based on resolution, FPS, and source complexity.

[Amdh]

1024kbps? I'm pretty sure we set the cap at 600kbps for SD and 2500kbps for HD, though it's scaled based on resolution, FPS, and source complexity.

I've tried uploading a music video to Facebook, the original video resolution is 512*384, original bitrate is something like 1364 Kbps, encoded with x264 .. I've then downloaded the mp4 edition and passed it to MediaInfo, here's what I get :

Format : FACE
Codec ID : FACE
File size : 40.4 MiB
Duration : 4mn 23s
Overall bit rate : 1 290 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2009-07-07 17:44:19
Tagged date : UTC 2009-07-08 17:44:20

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L2.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 4mn 23s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 1 136 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 1 870 Kbps
Width : 512 pixels
Height : 384 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.231
Stream size : 35.6 MiB (88%)
Writing library : x264 core 67 r1173 f6d3166
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=6 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / keyint=125 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / rc=2pass / bitrate=1136 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00
Encoded date : UTC 2009-07-07 17:44:19
Tagged date : UTC 2009-07-07 17:44:20

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format version : Version 4
Format profile : LC
Format settings, SBR : No
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 4mn 22s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 150 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 175 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
Stream size : 4.69 MiB (12%)
Encoded date : UTC 2009-07-07 17:44:20
Tagged date : UTC 2009-07-07 17:44:20

[Dark Shikari]

I've tried uploading a music video to Facebook, the original video resolution is 512*384, original bitrate is something like 1364 Kbps, encoded with x264 .. I've then downloaded the mp4 edition and passed it to MediaInfo, here's what I get :That's the "HQ" version of the file, not the regular one.

[Amdh]

That's the "HQ" version of the file, not the regular one.

Exactly, It's what's playing by default ... Have no idea about what they use for regular quality ...

[Dark Shikari]

Exactly, It's what's playing by default ... Have no idea about what they use for regular quality ...I already told you what we use for regular quality ;)

[Amdh]

I already told you what we use for regular quality ;)

Thanks for the info friend.
Should I assume that there are no h264 video sharing services other than these ?

[Dark Shikari]

Thanks for the info friend.
Should I assume that there are no h264 video sharing services other than these ?Zoome lets you upload videos you encoded yourself (and doesn't re-encode them) up to 1.5mbps or so.

[Amdh]

Zoome lets you upload videos you encoded yourself (and doesn't re-encode them) up to 1.5mbps or so.

Sounds good, but that's a japaneese website, can't understand a word of it .. loool !

[CruNcher]

blip.tv was using the source as it is back then though they playbacked the .mp4 via Quicktimes Player back then i guess this should have changed now and using modern Silverlight or Adobe Flash Player now :)

[St Devious]

blip.tv was using the source as it is back then though they playbacked the .mp4 via Quicktimes Player back then i guess this should have changed now and using modern Silverlight or Adobe Flash Player now :)

they were still using quicktime for mp4 files about a month ago when i checked.

[Amdh]

I was trying what is suggested in ST Devious's article, it's perfectly working !

Here's what I have done :

1. I passed my AVI to MediaCoder to remux it into FLV without having to reencode (I don't want to loose quality).

2. I've played the FLV file in Media Player Classic to ensure that it's working.

3. I uploaded it to blip.tv then tryed playing it back in their flash player, it's working ! I've just noticed that when I go backward (Try to seek to a previous position) the picture becomes somehow green and blocky despite the fact that I have the latest flash player installed.

Anyway, thanks for the tip friend .. It won't be possible to find something better than that !

[St Devious]

I was trying what is suggested in ST Devious's article, it's perfectly working !

Here's what I have done :

1. I passed my AVI to MediaCoder to remux it into FLV without having to reencode (I don't want to loose quality).

2. I've played the FLV file in Media Player Classic to ensure that it's working.

3. I uploaded it to blip.tv then tryed playing it back in their flash player, it's working ! I've just noticed that when I go backward (Try to seek to a previous position) the picture becomes somehow green and blocky despite the fact that I have the latest flash player installed.

Anyway, thanks for the tip friend .. It won't be possible to find something better than that !

Glad I could be of help.

Not sure about the green, what codecs did you have in the FLV file ?

[CruNcher]

The Green playback issue is also there with Youtube when you switch to HD my guess was it has something todo with the Decoder (Mainconcept) seems it doesn't jump to the next i-frame and stucks for a while before it reaches the next maybe recovery sei can fix that you could try to apply it to the bitstream as x264 by default doesn't.