BR-RB No CERTIFICATE folder

[setarip_old]

Have I overlooked something in the posts here, or is my memory once again failing me?

Didn't previous versions of BR-RB automatically generate a "CERTIFICATE" folder as part of the final conversion "package" it creates?

If so, why is this no longer the case?

[jdobbs]

Have I overlooked something in the posts here, or is my memory once again failing me?

Didn't previous versions of BR-RB automatically generate a "CERTIFICATE" folder as part of the final conversion "package" it creates?

If so, why is this no longer the case? It removes the CERTIFICATE folder if you have selected "Stricter Compliance for AVCHD" and you are doing a MOVIE-ONLY encode. It has worked that way for several releases.

[setarip_old]

This was a full disc encode of "Die Hard with a Vengeance" (And no, I don't/didn't have "Stricter Compliance for AVCHD" selected).

Perhaps the fact that the initial rip was done using "DumpHD" and did not include the "CERTIFICATE" folder as part of the rip is the reason BD-RB did not automatically generate its own "CERTIFICATE" folder (containing only an empty "BACKUP" sub-folder)?

BTW - This backup plays perfectly (without the folder) under PowerDVD v.7.3

[jdobbs]

BD-RB won't create a CERTIFICATE folder if it doesn't already exist in the RIP folder.

[setarip_old]

BD-RB won't create a CERTIFICATE folder if it doesn't already exist in the RIP folder.

Thanks for the insight ;>}

[jdobbs]

I've heard, though, that if you burn with IMGBURN it may add it.

[GaPony]

I've heard, though, that if you burn with IMGBURN it may add it.

ImgBurn has the option to add a CERTIFICATE folder for Blu-Ray burns. Its enabled by default, but can be disabled for those of us who make alot of movie only copies (AVCHD Mode).

[deank]

I asked the author of ImgBurn to remove this 'feature' or have the option of adding "CERTIFICATE" folder disabled by default.

It causes troubles and my opinion is that you should get the output you requested/expect, not with AI-folder-addition-decisions.

[GaPony]

Its a simple "Check the block" setting, so it doesn't matter enough to make a stink over. As with all software, its a good idea to check all the settings (ImgBurn has alot of them to check) and make a test burn to BD-RE media. The option of creating a CERTIFICATE folder isn't the only thing users should be aware of.

[deank]

I agree... It is that this specific option (like AUDIO_TS pb in prev. versions) has much more impact than other 'burn-related' options. I'm aware of it, you're aware of it, but may be thousands of users have no clue about it. So (as a programmer myself) I'd expect an application (receiving parameters) to do what is requested. :)

[GaPony]

I can't wait for your competitive program to ImgBurn! ;) j/k

I used to write programs, mostly complex database applications. I found the hardest part was getting the user interface right. What I thought would be the easiest, most user friendly interface was rarely what the customer ended up asking for and found easiest for them.

Go figure...

[drmih]

It's my understanding that the files in the CERTIFICATE tie in with those in BMDV\BDJO and BMDV\JAR. Will a disc play (without BD-Live) if these are emptied as they seem to be causing issues to certain standalones.

[GaPony]

It's my understanding that the files in the CERTIFICATE tie in with those in BMDV\BDJO and BMDV\JAR. Will a disc play (without BD-Live) if these are emptied as they seem to be causing issues to certain standalones.

If you're making a movie only copy and check the block for "Strict complicance for AVCHD" then BD Rebuilder will remove the AUXDATA, BDJO, JAR, and META folders... along with the CERTIFICATE folder. (ImgBurn generally reports 9 files and 7 folders for burning with this setting)

This is the only setting where it produces a copy that has played on every standalone player I've tried it on. The trade off is that its a movie only (no menus).. I generally let it reencode the audio to AC3, but I don't think it would matter much if you preferred to keep the HD audio instead.

When you combine all the possible settings along with 3 possible output sizes, and all the quirks of individual players, its tough to say... "This works for everything."