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micha019
26th June 2009, 08:30
Hello!

I'm looking for a program that can calculate the Bitrate for a Blu-Ray x264 with Multiple Audio to burn on a dvd5 or dvd9.
I already used Ripbot to calculate a Bluray with a single Audio file, but I need a Programm that support more than one Audio Track.

Please help.
Thanks in advance.

setarip_old
26th June 2009, 09:34
Hi!

Try "AVCHDCoder"...

micha019
26th June 2009, 09:39
yes I also tested this program.
But the calculator is not excatly in calculating the bitrate.
It only shows me a bitrate for example 8555-8777.
I need something that can calculate exactly like ripbot.

drpaulng
26th June 2009, 16:08
http://multiforum.deanbg.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=42&p=284#p284

Try my calculator.

deank
30th June 2009, 16:44
multiAVCHD's uncrop/re-encode function (estimated bitrate) supports any number of audio streams, taking into account internal and external subtitles. The estimated bitrate is calculated for m2ts output.

Link. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1301136#post1301136)

twazerty
30th July 2009, 21:05
Maybe a little late but calculating bitrate is pretty hard. I looked at drpaulng's calculator and it is not even getting close to the right bitrate. You used a overhead of 6%. That is not correct. The overhead is always different. I created a calculator called AVCHDCalculator and I use my own formulas. Currently the are some mistakes in the BD-25/BD-50 sizes but the rest generates very precise bitrates. I achieve 99.3%+ disc fills. Multiple audio streams are not supported yet but I am working on it :)

twazerty
31st July 2009, 00:08
Yeah... multiple streams...

If anyone's aiming at 100% accuracy then just drop it.

You need no formulas! You need to know steams, bitrates and m2ts muxing procedures. No matter what formulas anyone will come up with, if you have no knowledge of how things happen to build a m2ts then just drop it.

Anyone can 'create a formula' for one audio stream....

As I can see - no one is sharing 'their secret formulas'... funny why?

Dean

I am not that technical so I can reverse engineer it on muxing level:)
I figured out that bitrate does not influence on the overhead. 1280x720 or 1920x1080 also doesn't matter. I currently have 13 formulas to calculate bitrate. I can create as many as I want and they will all be very accurately.

I am currently making formulas for multiple audio streams (DTS and AC3 448 for example)

Maybe I will share my formulas. I tell you why I am not sharing them right now. In the past I ask so many people to help me. (Not on doom9 but somewere else) People say they will help me but they didn't. They let me do it on my own. They all thought I was crazy and that it was impossible I could create something that was useable. They weren't helping me so I never told any details.

If somebody can convince me of sharing my information, then I maybe share information. But as I can see I was the first that could calculate bitrate very accurately and I am proud of that. :cool:

BTW my formulas are not rocket science. Just basic Math. But it is effective :)

drpaulng
31st July 2009, 01:22
I am not that technical so I can reverse engineer it on muxing level:)
I figured out that bitrate does not influence on the overhead. 1280x720 or 1920x1080 also doesn't matter. I currently have 13 formulas to calculate bitrate. I can create as many as I want and they will all be very accurately.

I am currently making formulas for multiple audio streams (DTS and AC3 448 for example)

Maybe I will share my formulas. I tell you why I am not sharing them right now. In the past I ask so many people to help me. (Not on doom9 but somewere else) People say they will help me but they didn't. They let me do it on my own. They all thought I was crazy and that it was impossible I could create something that was useable. They weren't helping me so I never told any details.

If somebody can convince me of sharing my information, then I maybe share information. But as I can see I was the first that could calculate bitrate very accurately and I am proud of that. :cool:

BTW my formulas are not rocket science. Just basic Math. But it is effective :)

Thank you in advance.