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BigDid
15th June 2009, 22:49
Hi,

I would appreciate getting the actual text of the welcome mail for new registered user, from a forum board member, mod or simply a new user...

I am not sure it is the same text as it was in 2004 (and not sure I could retrieve mine ;) ) but I would like to know the formulation, eventually quote it for new users not searching the forum and asking "bizarre" (weird) questions before posting :eek:

Eventually, if the mods agrees, make it a sticky in the Newbies section?

I have had quite a hard time trying to understand the evolution of the board these past months between the often overreacting or agressive people (rule4) and the (I suppose) difficult task to control or get rid of the rule6 related material and so forth...

Hence this request to quote fact instead of what could appear as an overreacting involvement.

:thanks:

Did

J_Darnley
15th June 2009, 23:16
Very descriptive. From 2006-05-14
Dear J_Darnley,

Thanks for registering at Doom9's Forum! We are glad you have chosen to be a part of our community and we hope you enjoy your stay.

All the best,
Doom9's Forum

BigDid
15th June 2009, 23:34
Hi,

I thought there was, at least, a word on how to navigate the forum, use search, read stickies etc... !?

Thanks anyhow, any recent takers if the formulation has changed?

Did

txgoogoo
17th June 2009, 23:03
Dear txgoogoo,

Thanks for registering at Doom9's Forum! We are glad you have chosen to be a part of our community and we hope you enjoy your stay.

All the best,
Doom9's Forum


I joined 05/25/2009 so it is still the same message

BigDid
18th June 2009, 00:53
Ok, thanks.

And welcome to the forum :)

Did

Audionut
20th June 2009, 05:49
I'm sure I remember something about the reason for the 5 day wait.

J_Darnley
20th June 2009, 11:17
Do you mean "In order prevent registration for fraudulent purposes, as well as to reinforce our forum rules (especially rules 1 & 2), any new account will remain inactive for five days." That is shown to you when you click the register link.

The full text.
Forum Rules

Registration to this forum is free! We do insist that you abide by the rules and policies detailed below. If you agree to the terms, please check the 'I agree' checkbox and press the 'Register' button below. If you would like to cancel the registration, click here to return to the forums index.

Forum Rules

Registration to this forum is free! We do insist that you abide by the rules and policies detailed below as well as those outlined in our rules document. If you agree to the terms, please check the 'I agree' checkbox and press the 'Register' button below. If you would like to cancel the registration, click here to return to the forums index.

Although the administrators and moderators of Doom9's Forum will attempt to keep all objectionable messages off this forum, it is impossible for us to review all messages. All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owners of Doom9's Forum, nor Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. (developers of vBulletin) will be held responsible for the content of any message.

By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws.

The owners of Doom9's Forum reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason.

In order prevent registration for fraudulent purposes, as well as to reinforce our forum rules (especially rules 1 & 2), any new account will remain inactive for five days.

Any new account will have to be validated by clicking on the activation link in the email you will be sent after registration. Until you have activated your account, it will operate in restricted mode - without the option to view or search posts/threads so you will prefer to keep visiting the forum as guest in the meantime.

BigDid
20th June 2009, 18:22
Hi,

That's it, thanks. It is enhancing the forum rules but it remains on a forum page, is not forwarded to the new users and can be easilly forgotten...

If/when the themes are agreed (like navigation, search, stickies and rules...), would the forum board be interested by a collaborative work on a more consistent welcome mail?

Did

Guest
20th June 2009, 18:36
would the forum board be interested by a collaborative work on a consistent welcome mail? In what way is the current one inconsistent?

BigDid
20th June 2009, 18:48
Hi,

Never say it was, I changed my above post to bettter reflect the nuance.

Actually it welcomes the new user and does only that:
"Thanks for registering at Doom9's Forum! We are glad you have chosen to be a part of our community and we hope you enjoy your stay." (from txgoogoo post)

My above query has 2 levels:
1st level - to agree on themes/subject/important messages to deliver;
2nd level - to propose formulation on the above themes.

Is my query more consistent now?

Did

BigDid
23rd June 2009, 21:30
Hi,

No answers but also no rebuttal, so I will take my chance on the Use search theme:

"
1/The forum is organised in sections like "General" or "Video encoding", subsections like "MPEG4-ASP" or "MPEG4- AVC/H.264" (in video encoding)
2/If you do not find what you are looking for in the proper sub-sections, you will need to :search:

3/The search tool has an easy, tag or advanced search. This menu item is located in the tools bars on top of each page under the user dialog box. There is also a specific thread search located below the tools bar in each thread.

3.1/Google can easily search Doom9 forums for the phrase you're looking for, especially if it happens to be 3 characters or less. Simply add site:forum.doom9.org to your search term in Google.

4/Easy search: enter a sentence or keys words (3 characters minimum), results are visible by threads or by posts. If too much or irrelevant answers, refine your search.

5/Tag search: click 1 of the proposed tags or type 1 of the proposed tags and refine with the proposed sub-menu , same as above for results.

6/Advanced search: This more sophisticated window allows you to use much more options like:
- search by user, key-word or tag;
- find threads or posts;
- search in specific sub-section;
- view results by thread or post.

7/Why all this search tools? because the forum is rich of information but to retrieve the one you want will probably need some search. Learn to use that tool efficiently.

8/Tip: When creating a thread and asking for information or help, it is considered good manners to do your search before and tell your fellow contributors what/how you have searched and why the results are not satisfactory, hence the new thread and/or query.
9/Not doing this before queries can often be answered abruptly by the smiley :search:
(in this case, can be translated by do your homework before asking).
Good search.
"

Anyone wanting to contribute and/or re-write the above is welcome.

Did

jj666
23rd June 2009, 22:56
This would be easier and much simpler:

"Welcome to doom9 forum", with a print of rule #6 at the bottom.

Mind you, this would remove my daily after work entertainment watching Donald at work :-D

Cheers,

-jj-

Doom9
24th June 2009, 08:13
This is all well intentioned, but makes you think people would pay any more attention than they do during the signup process?
As anecdotal evidence.. back in the day the 5 day waiting period wasn't mentioned during the signup process.. neither was the fact that you're better off visiting as guest than as non activated member - but the amount of complaints / questions we get on those two subjects has not changed since it was added to the signup process.
And let's be honest with ourselves.. how many times do you read the terms before you sign up anywhere? And do we really read the fine print?

Inventive Software
24th June 2009, 14:31
This is all well intentioned, but makes you think people would pay any more attention than they do during the signup process?
As anecdotal evidence.. back in the day the 5 day waiting period wasn't mentioned during the signup process.. neither was the fact that you're better off visiting as guest than as non activated member - but the amount of complaints / questions we get on those two subjects has not changed since it was added to the signup process.
And let's be honest with ourselves.. how many times do you read the terms before you sign up anywhere? And do we really read the fine print?
Wow, as the owner I'd have thought you'd take more responsibility than that! I read nearly all T+Cs for things I sign up, it's how b*****dised companies sneak things in that you don't have a choice to get out of. Only time I refuse to read them is in the case of Adobe, because I don't use their product.


Addition for the "Use search" guide. :)

Google can easily search Doom9 forums for the phrase you're looking for, especially if it happens to be 3 characters or less. Simply add site:forum.doom9.org to your search term in Google.

BigDid
24th June 2009, 20:34
Hi,


Addition for the "Use search" guide. :)
Google can easily search Doom9 forums for the phrase you're looking for, especially if it happens to be 3 characters or less. Simply add site:forum.doom9.org to your search term in Google.

Googlesearch added as 3.1/ and minimum 3 char instead of 3 words corrected.

This is all well intentioned, but makes you think people would pay any more attention than they do during the signup process?
...
how many times do you read the terms before you sign up anywhere? And do we really read the fine print?

Depends how it is written I suppose, not to long, some bold here and there etc...
Even if not a big success, it could ease the answers given by the contributors and/or the work of moderators for repetitive typical answers like recall to rule 6; recall meaning it has already been enhanced elsewhere;
Or it could be that the welcome mail is not the good (could I dare best !) way to follow the message; if so maybe a sticky if the thread is consequent enough...

Thanks for posting :)

Did

Doom9
24th June 2009, 20:46
Wow, as the owner I'd have thought you'd take more responsibility than that! I read nearly all T+Cs for things I sign up, it's how b*****dised companies sneak things in that you don't have a choice to get out of. Only time I refuse to read them is in the case of Adobe, because I don't use their product.Well.. it's not like I sign up for a lot.. the contracts I actually do sign I do read (and whenever I get to vote I know exactly what I'm voting for) - but I take a few things for granted: the company on the other end doesn't give a hoot about me, will screw me over if it benefits them, will share all my data or lose it due to inadequate security (after the NSA has already read everything anyway).
Other than that, I presume that rules in other places are at least as strict as here.. so whatever you post you don't retain ownership of, you can be banned for no reason at all, etc.

@Bigkid: now if you can actually locate where in the vbb template that mails is sent maybe I can be moved to do something.. but as I said, I don't expect much to change - it just allows me to scream a bit louder when people still don't bother to read it.

BigDid
29th June 2009, 17:44
@Bigkid:
Thanks, make me feel younger ;)


now if you can actually locate where in the vbb template that mails is sent maybe I can be moved to do something...
I am no good at web app, anyone for the vbb thingie?

Did