I, Robot Audo PGS Size too large

[dgwak]

I noticed this same issue with some other people on other titles. I even tried the latest version V.0.20.09 with the same result. I am trying to create BD-9 from my I, Robot disc but continue to get the following error:

Audio PGS Size Too Large.


Here is the log:

[02:30:51] BD Rebuilder v0.20.07 (beta)
- Source: IROBOT_US
- Input BD size: 38.27 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:26:33.752]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[02:30:55] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [02:30:55] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00001]
[02:31:01]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
-----------------------
[02:31:18] BD Rebuilder v0.20.07 (beta)
- Source: IROBOT_US
- Input BD size: 26.45 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:54:44.252]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[02:31:19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [02:31:19] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00001]
[02:31:43]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
-----------------------
[02:32:25] BD Rebuilder v0.20.07 (beta)
- Source: IROBOT_US
- Input BD size: 26.45 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:54:44.252]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[02:32:26] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [02:32:26] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00001]
- [02:40:06] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 2)
- [09:36:08] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00002]
- Audio/PGS sizing issue. Continued...
- [09:42:20] Reencoding: VID_00002 (2 of 2)
- [09:42:24] DoEncoding() 00009 8

I really want to keep this at BD-9 instead of BD-25.

[setarip_old]

Hi![02:30:51] BD Rebuilder v0.20.07 (beta)You might have more success if you use the most recent version of "BD Rebuilder"...

[dgwak]

Hi!You might have more success if you use the most recent version of "BD Rebuilder"...

I did. The same result.

[setarip_old]

Audio PGS Size Too Large.1) What are the audio formats on the BluRay disc?

2) Have you selected one of the audio conversion (reduces size) options?

[jdobbs]

Run it with the latest version and post the log again. The error numbering has changed and I don't know if it would be the same.

[dgwak]

Run it with the latest version and post the log again. The error numbering has changed and I don't know if it would be the same.


I at first ran it with the latest version, then with the version before. I got the exactly the same errors. First, it was Audio PGS too large error. When I clicked continue, I got the error 8... I had to use task manager to shut down BD-Rebuilder, cause it would not close (stuck at de-encoding).

Here is the log:
[02:29:45] BD Rebuilder v0.20.09 (beta)
- Source: IROBOT_US
- Input BD size: 26.45 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:54:44.252]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Resuming from previously started job.
[02:29:46] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [02:29:46] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00002]
- [02:29:46] Collecting video information [00002]
- Audio/PGS sizing issue. Continued...
- Video: 1920x1080, 23.976fps
- [02:29:49] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 1
- [02:29:49] Reencoding: VID_00002 (2 of 2)
- [02:29:50] Video Encode complete
- [02:29:50] Reencoding audio tracks
- [02:29:50] Multiplexing M2TS
- [02:29:50] DoEncoding() 00009 2008

I don't know if it will help but when I looked at the resulted streams in the workfiles folder, I see the following among others.

VID_00001.AVS.264 Size 7,056,822 KB
AUD_00001_4352.AC3 Size 376,427 KB

[dgwak]

1) What are the audio formats on the BluRay disc?

2) Have you selected one of the audio conversion (reduces size) options?

I choose AC3 to save space.

Here is my settings.

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb145/dgwak123/Capture21.jpg

[setarip_old]

Are you certain that the "DTS Surround Sound" wasn't also selected?

[dgwak]

Are you certain that the "DTS Surround Sound" wasn't also selected?

I don't even know where that setting is. Everything is default in terms of the sound settings.

[jdobbs]

I noticed this same issue with some other people on other titles. I even tried the latest version V.0.20.09 with the same result. I am trying to create BD-9 from my I, Robot disc but continue to get the following error:

Audio PGS Size Too Large.


Here is the log:

[02:30:51] BD Rebuilder v0.20.07 (beta)
- Source: IROBOT_US
- Input BD size: 38.27 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:26:33.752]
- Target BD size: 22.46 GB
[02:30:55] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [02:30:55] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00001]
[02:31:01]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
-----------------------
[02:31:18] BD Rebuilder v0.20.07 (beta)
- Source: IROBOT_US
- Input BD size: 26.45 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:54:44.252]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[02:31:19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [02:31:19] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00001]
[02:31:43]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
-----------------------
[02:32:25] BD Rebuilder v0.20.07 (beta)
- Source: IROBOT_US
- Input BD size: 26.45 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:54:44.252]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[02:32:26] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [02:32:26] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00001]
- [02:40:06] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 2)
- [09:36:08] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00002]
- Audio/PGS sizing issue. Continued...
- [09:42:20] Reencoding: VID_00002 (2 of 2)
- [09:42:24] DoEncoding() 00009 8

I really want to keep this at BD-9 instead of BD-25. That means that when you add up all the audio and PGS (subtitles) you've decided to keep -- there isn't enough room for the video on a DVD-9. You have to deselect some of the audio/pgs tracks (languages) or decide to go to BD-25. BD-RB simply subtracts the space required from the audio and sees what is left -- if it is too small, it gives you that message.

[kaiman]

I also have the same problem with this movie and with ice age, movie only one audio and 2 subtitles in dvd 5 its rare because i have made other movies that are longer

[jdobbs]

I also have the same problem with this movie and with ice age, movie only one audio and 2 subtitles in dvd 5 its rare because i have made other movies that are longer Look in the working directory and see how big the audio files are. Better yet, capture the directory and post it. What did you use to rip the disc?

[dgwak]

Look in the working directory and see how big the audio files are. Better yet, capture the directory and post it. What did you use to rip the disc?



Here it is.

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb145/dgwak123/Capture3.jpg

[setarip_old]

As I suggested earlier, it looks like you have to DEselect the DTS audiostream and just keep the .AC3 audiostream...

[kaiman]

Look in the working directory and see how big the audio files are. Better yet, capture the directory and post it. What did you use to rip the disc?

I use anydvd to rip the discs


http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu318/kaiman76/irobotworkingfiles.jpg

[dgwak]

As I suggested earlier, it looks like you have to DEselect the DTS audiostream and just keep the .AC3 audiostream...

Doesn't BD-R automatically reencode DTS to AC3? It only selects the DTS audio stream by default.

It seems like the resulting video and audio is too big for the selected method.

I had yet another exact incident happen to Pirates of Carribean 2. I got "Audio PGS too large" again.

Here is my set up and workfile directory. I have done many BD's without any problem until now...

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb145/dgwak123/Capture3-1.jpg
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb145/dgwak123/Capture31.jpg

[jdobbs]

What is the BSPlay Pro file with no extension? Is that the .264 file?

When outputting to BD-9 the only file that is added is the .AC3 file (unless you have chosen to keep DTS) because that is the converted file.

[jdobbs]

Doesn't BD-R automatically reencode DTS to AC3? It only selects the DTS audio stream by default.

It seems like the resulting video and audio is too big for the selected method.

I had yet another exact incident happen to Pirates of Carribean 2. I got "Audio PGS too large" again.

Here is my set up and workfile directory. I have done many BD's without any problem until now...

Post your INF file so I can see your settings.

When are you getting the error? I assume you say "Continue" -- because it looks like it has completed the MUX already?

Could you post your LOG?

When BD-RB computes the projected size of the AC3 audio (based upon the length in time of the video [using the framecount and the frame rate]) it subtracts it from the total output space specified. If the audio is too big for the video to fit, it gives you a warning dialog "Audio and/or PGS size too large. Probable oversize. Continue?". If you say "Continue" then it automatically switches modes to CRF and encodes -- which (as warned) will probably make output that won't fit on your specified size.

What size do you have selected for output?

[dgwak]

@JDOBB,

I get the error message after the 2nd pass. When I click continue it gives another message that says "BD Reb. experienced an error 2008(08:22) DeEncoding.." Then it gets stuck at Mutiplexing m2ts.

Here is my ini.

[Status]
LABEL=PIRATES2
VERSION=v0.20.09 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=33637705728
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=33637705728
TARGET_SIZE=8294236160
REDUCTION=.246575560981137
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;enm;
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
[00001]
AUDIO=10000
PGS=100000
M2TS_TARGET=8294231615
RATE=6308
NSIZE=7501774848
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00002]
M2TS_TARGET=4545

[jdobbs]

After the second pass? That message comes at the beginning of an encode (before the first pass). That means that you must be getting the message on the second stream (VID_00002).

That error is confusing... is that exactly what it said? I don't think I have any error messages like that.

[jdobbs]

[02:32:26] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [02:32:26] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00001]
- [02:40:06] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 2)
- [09:36:08] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00002]
- Audio/PGS sizing issue. Continued...
- [09:42:20] Reencoding: VID_00002 (2 of 2)
- [09:42:24] DoEncoding() 00009 8

I really want to keep this at BD-9 instead of BD-25. One more note. If you are posting the LOG, please use the LOG from the most recent version. The error reporting has changed completely and the error shown in this log is now meaningless. Thanks.

[dgwak]

After the second pass? That message comes at the beginning of an encode (before the first pass). That means that you must be getting the message on the second stream (VID_00002).

That error is confusing... is that exactly what it said? I don't think I have any error messages like that.

Indeed, there is a second stream that I didn't notice. But why? I only chose movie only for BD9 backup. How do I get rid of it?

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb145/dgwak123/Capture.jpg

[kaiman]

One more note. If you are posting the LOG, please use the LOG from the most recent version. The error reporting has changed completely and the error shown in this log is now meaningless. Thanks.

The same error, with the new version, I,robot and ice age 1 always get the same result
-----------------------
[10:21:58] BD Rebuilder v0.21.01 (beta)
- Source: IROBOT_US
- Input BD size: 26.45 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:54:44.252]
- Target BD size: 4.27 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[10:21:58] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [10:21:58] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00001]
- [10:26:40] Reencoding: VID_00001 (1 of 2)
- [15:09:52] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00002]
- Audio/PGS sizing issue. Continued...
- [15:11:46] Reencoding: VID_00002 (2 of 2)
- [15:11:48] DoEncoding() 00009 2008

[Status]
LABEL=IROBOT_US
VERSION=v0.21.01 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=28400295936
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=28400295936
TARGET_SIZE=4581228544
REDUCTION=.161309183338223
RESIZE_1080=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;spa;
BACKUP_MODE=1
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
[00001]
AUDIO=100000
PGS=1100000
M2TS_TARGET=4581223589
RATE=4369
NSIZE=3971868672
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
[00002]
M2TS_TARGET=4955

[dgwak]

The same error, with the new version,

[00002]
M2TS_TARGET=4955


Yep, you have the same problem. It somehow tries to work on [0002] stream after the main movie finishes.

Any solutions to this?

[jdobbs]

Indeed, there is a second stream that I didn't notice. But why? I only chose movie only for BD9 backup. How do I get rid of it?

You don't. It's actually part of the main-movie MPLS. I'll go out and find I-Robot and see if I can repeat the issue.

What VC-1 decoder are you using?

[dgwak]

You don't. It's actually part of the main-movie MPLS. I'll go out and find I-Robot and see if I can repeat the issue.

What VC-1 decoder are you using?

I am a noob at this HD decoding. I think what I have ffdshow. I do have WMP10 installed so it should have VC-1 capability. I just installed what was recommended which was ffdshow and Haali splitter along with BD-Rebuilder program... How do I tell?

[jdobbs]

I would recommend installing Windows Media Player 11 (its free). Then go into FFDSHOW and disable VC-1. That way the WMP11 codec will be used. It is the most compatible VC-1 codec right now.

[kaiman]

You don't. It's actually part of the main-movie MPLS. I'll go out and find I-Robot and see if I can repeat the issue.

What VC-1 decoder are you using?

I'm using windows media 11, i believe that's not the problem

[dgwak]

I would recommend installing Windows Media Player 11 (its free). Then go into FFDSHOW and disable VC-1. That way the WMP11 codec will be used. It is the most compatible VC-1 codec right now.

Yes in fact me too. I have been using WMP11 and VC-1 disabled in ffdshow codec option menu.

Would this problem be solved if I choose a different audio stream (ac3 instead of DTS)?

[jdobbs]

I finally repeated it. It was a really weird issue in which the short (1 sec.) follow-on stream had no audio even though the MPLS indicated it should. When I first tested it I had "don't reencode DTS" set -- and it went through fine, duh...

I fixed it for the next release (v0.21.02). I'm doing some testing, but you should see it posted today.

[dgwak]

I finally repeated it. It was a really weird issue in which the short (1 sec.) follow-on stream had no audio even though the MPLS indicated it should. When I first tested it I had "don't reencode DTS" set -- and it went through fine, duh...

I fixed it for the next release (v0.21.02). I'm doing some testing, but you should see it posted today.

I just used the posted newer version to make BD9 of I, Robot. It got stuck for a hour at this place.

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb145/dgwak123/Capture-1.jpg

Here is my work files when I aborted.


http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb145/dgwak123/Capture11.jpg

[dgwak]

I finally repeated it. It was a really weird issue in which the short (1 sec.) follow-on stream had no audio even though the MPLS indicated it should. When I first tested it I had "don't reencode DTS" set -- and it went through fine, duh...

I fixed it for the next release (v0.21.02). I'm doing some testing, but you should see it posted today.

I just used the posted newer version to make BD9 of I, Robot. However, it got stuck for a hour at this place.

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb145/dgwak123/Capture-1.jpg

Here are my work files when I aborted.


http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb145/dgwak123/Capture11.jpg

[jdobbs]

I just used the posted newer version to make BD9 of I, Robot. However, it got stuck for a hour at this place.


Here are my work files when I aborted.


Something has to be wrong on your end either in your system or in your rip -- I did the exact same movie/region earlier today with no issues.

Just to be sure, I just started the encode again -- we'll see if it is complete in the morning.

[kaiman]

Something has to be wrong on your end either in your system or in your rip -- I did the exact same movie/region earlier today with no issues.

Just to be sure, I just started the encode again -- we'll see if it is complete in the morning.

The new version works fine with me, i chose one language 2 subtitles, movie only bd5, im gonna try it with ice age, that always got me that message

[jdobbs]

I just used the posted newer version to make BD9 of I, Robot. However, it got stuck for a hour at this place.


Here are my work files when I aborted.


Something has to be wrong on your end either in your system or in your rip -- I did the exact same movie/region earlier today with no issues.

Just to be sure, I just started the encode again -- we'll see if it is complete in the morning. Well I got up this morning and it is completed correctly. Sorry.

[kaiman]

I tested the new version with ice age, and it worked fine, finally i backup i robot and ice age 1.

The only title that i still have problems is Vicky Cristina Barcelona because of its 3.0 audio :(

[jdobbs]

I tested the new version with ice age, and it worked fine, finally i backup i robot and ice age 1.

The only title that i still have problems is Vicky Cristina Barcelona because of its 3.0 audio :( Interesting. How does BD-RB report that track on the STREAMS list?

[kaiman]

Interesting. How does BD-RB report that track on the STREAMS list?

This is how it looks.

http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu318/kaiman76/vickycristina.jpg

The problem is that it only mixes the left and right channel, so the results its a movie with only ambient sound and no dialogue.

This is a thread with options to resolve that problem, i don't know if there is a hidden option that a i can put in bdrebuilder
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146606&highlight=barcelona
.

[jdobbs]

This is how it looks.

http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu318/kaiman76/vickycristina.jpg

The problem is that it only mixes the left and right channel, so the results its a movie with only ambient sound and no dialogue.

This is a thread with options to resolve that problem, i don't know if there is a hidden option that a i can put in bdrebuilder
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146606&highlight=barcelona
. I should be able to fix it easy enough with AVISYNTH commands.