Bluray Content on a DVD in Standalone Player

[Lance]

Hi, after some tutorial in the german "Gleitz-Forum" I made a DVD with Bluray content.

I used unencoded raw material (an interwiev from a BD) and remuxxed it with TSMuxxer into a "BluRay Disk" after muxing, the interview was about 3.9 GB

After that I burnt it with "Imageburn" on a DVD. This DVD plays fine on my computer but my Panasonic BD60 rejected this disc as "unsupported".

Does anyone has an idea, what went wrong ?

[deank]

You need to use "AVCHD" output in tsMuxeR if burning to DVD.

[Lance]

Hi, deank, thanks for your quick answer. I tried your idea and it did not work. At least, the Panasonic did not reject the disc. But it doesn't play either. It just says "play"... but only a black screen appears. The display says 00.00.00. The it starts re-reading the directory and the display again says HDMI and then 00.00.00.

[setarip_old]

@Lance

Hi!

Although it should be automatic under "IMGBurn" I'll ask - Are you sure the DVD was created using (required) UDF 2.50 format?

[Lance]

setarip_old, yes absolutely. I followed a tutorial from the german gleitz forum. There it said with screenshots what exactly I have to do. Would it help to post the mediainfo ? Maybe there are codec used a AVCHD disk can not play back ?

[rotty]

Is the video content H264 or VC-1

[Lance]

Hi rotty, it seems to be VC-1

Allgemein
ID : 0
Vollständiger Name : J:\00036.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : BluRay Video
Dateigröße : 4,82 GiB
Dauer : 30min
Gesamte Bitrate : 22,6 Mbps
maximale Gesamtbitrate : 48,0 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menü-ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : VC-1
Format-Profil : AP@L3
Dauer : 30min
Bitrate : 18,9 Mbps
Breite : 1 920 Pixel
Höhe : 1 080 Pixel
Bildseitenverhältnis : 16/9
Bildwiederholungsrate : 29,970 FPS
Colorimetrie : 4:2:0
Scantyp : progressiv
Scanreihenfolge : 2:3 Pulldown
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.304
Stream-Größe : 4,04 GiB (84%)

[rotty]

When you import the stream into tsmuxer it will tell you what the video stream is.
To the very best of my knowledge, the Panasonic players expect AVCHD content to be H264 also called AVC, they will not play VC-1 as AVCHD format.
Panasonic / Sony created the spec for AVCHD.

[Ghitulescu]

Hi, after some tutorial in the german "Gleitz-Forum" I made a DVD with Bluray content.

I used unencoded raw material (an interwiev from a BD) and remuxxed it with TSMuxxer into a "BluRay Disk" after muxing, the interview was about 3.9 GB

After that I burnt it with "Imageburn" on a DVD. This DVD plays fine on my computer but my Panasonic BD60 rejected this disc as "unsupported".

Does anyone has an idea, what went wrong ?

You may check some threads here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146134
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146339
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=144674
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145739

there are also many others
your question was already answered in at least 3 of the mentioned threads.

Panasonic refuses to play VC-1 on DVDR.

[shon3i]

I am very confused now, does it mean that if you want to place the film DVD, we must completly follow AVCHD, which means no VC-1/MPEG2, DTS, multiple audio streams, multiple sub streams etc. So real BD5/9 are mostly unsuported media?

[strad]

I would like to add, that in case someone wants to use DVD DL, it must be -DL (minus!), because Panasonic BD-60 can read both + & - normal DVD´s but does NOT except AVCHD content on +DL (also mentioned in the manual which I didn´t read before the mistake).
Burning always must be done with UDF 2.50, 2.60 will not work, whereas it is OK for BD-R.

[setarip_old]

@strad

Hi!it must be -DL (minus!)Unless something's changed VERY recently, good luck burning DL DVD-Rs!

Virtually everything you can read that's been posted anywhere will tell you that the success ratio regarding burning such media is remarkably low...

[turbojet]

I remember seeing that the issue with DVD+R is booktype, it must be set to DVD-R or some panasonic's won't read it.

I am very confused now, does it mean that if you want to place the film DVD, we must completly follow AVCHD, which means no VC-1/MPEG2, DTS, multiple audio streams, multiple sub streams etc. So real BD5/9 are mostly unsuported media?

The only thing that's been reported not to work is VC-1 on DVD with Panasonic players. I've never heard of a player that couldn't play DTS from AVCHD DVD, and no others that can't play VC-1 on AVCHD DVD. I can confirm DTS, mutliple audio, multiple subs on AVCHD DVD work on panasonic BD30.

[Ghitulescu]

I am very confused now, does it mean that if you want to place the film DVD, we must completly follow AVCHD, which means no VC-1/MPEG2, DTS, multiple audio streams, multiple sub streams etc. So real BD5/9 are mostly unsuported media?

No, you generalize.

I would say that, reporting the number of player models that play BD5/9 they are rather supported. Only Panasonics and Sharps refuse to play most BD5/9.

The conclusion was: Your Panasonic does not accept VC-1 on DVD, according to my tests. My Pioneer, all Denons, Sonies, LGs, Samsungs can do (well, each has its own "birdie" - conditions that if met they will play the disc).

[Ghitulescu]

Burning always must be done with UDF 2.50, 2.60 will not work, whereas it is OK for BD-R.

Both UDF 2.50 and 2.60 work with Panasonic. Tested by me. However only as AVCHD with h.264 content.

BTW, if you browse (search) this forum, you'll find one of my posts wherein I stated that Panasonic stand-alone burner (the one that comes with HD camcorders, forgot its name now, WM-BN1 or similar) formats the medium in UDF 2.60. Why would a Panasonic DVD burner formats a medium in a format that is not supported by a Panasonic BD player?

[Ghitulescu]

I remember seeing that the issue with DVD+R is booktype, it must be set to DVD-R or some panasonic's won't read it.

I cannot comment on this, I've done all my tests either with DVDR or DVDRW. I've tested some 30 players, and absolutely no one would play say DVD+-R (booktype DVD-ROM) and not played DVD+-RW or viceversa. I mean all discs were equal, irrelevant of their book- or disc-type.

But:

Our colleague DK who has a Samsung 1600 (the WiFi one) discovered that it needs a different booktype than DVD-ROM in order to play the disc.