View Full Version : BD standalone results/tests on DVDR of AVCHD, BD, FULLBD, CROPPED, HDAUDIO
turbojet
14th April 2009, 00:57
THE TEST
1. For AVCHD, NEWBD, OLDBD, C1080, C720, DTSHD, THD you can download test samples from sendspace (http://www.sendspace.com/file/38n370) / mediafire (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?x1mwwymzqwu) (23MB) and burn the isos with imgburn. If burning to DVD+R make sure booktype is set to DVD-R. In order for FULLBD testing you need to process an original BD with BD-Rebuilder (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1227473#post1227473)
2. Try playing avchd.iso, newbd.iso, oldbd.iso, avchd_aux.iso, avchd_strict.iso (results try to be as accurate as can be but aren't guaranteed)
3. If avchd.iso plays test avchd-crop720.iso, avchd-crop1080.iso, avchd-dtshd.iso, avchd-truehd.iso
If avchd.iso doesn't play but newbd.iso plays test newbd-crop720.iso, newbd-crop1080.iso, newbd-dtshd.iso, newbd-truehd.iso
4. When testing FULLBD if it doesn't play with default output run the index.bdmv through goBD (http://212.36.7.36/sub/new/goBD-tool.exe) and try again.
4. Report what plays and what doesn't. In order for the the crop iso's to be considered playable they have to show a round circle centered on the screen and and no video artifacts. For FULLBD please report if there is any thing in BDMV/JAR directory. Thanks in advance.
H.264 video only
RESULTS
PLAYER AVCHD NEWBD OLDBD FULLBD C1080 C720 DTSHD THD NOTES
Arcsoft TMT 3.0.1.120 X X X X X X X X HDD playback
Denon DVD-A1UD X
Denon DVD-1800BD - X need AUXDATA
Denon DVD-2500BT - X - need AUXDATA
Denon DVD-3800BD - X X need AUXDATA
Insignia HS-BRDVD - X need AUXDATA
Insignia NS-2BRDVD - X need AUXDATA
Insignia NS-BDLIVE01 - X X need AUXDATA
JVC XV-PB1 <4 GB mkv/mp4 playback
LG BH200 ! prior to firmware 0602
LG BD300 X -
LG BD370 X X X - X X EU model plays <4 GB mkv/mp4
LG-BD390 X - plays <4 GB mkv/mp4
Loewe BluTech Vision - - - - - - - - rebadged Sharp BD-HP20, won't play BDR either
Magnavox NB500MG9 X
Memorex MVBD-2510 ! - need firmware Dec 24 2008 or newer, USB HDD playback
Memorex MVBD-2511 X
Olevia BD-110 X
Oppo BDP-83 X X mkv playback, USB HDD playback, no weightp support
Panasonic DMP-BD10 X
Panasonic DMP-BD30 X - X - X - SDHC playback
Panasonic DMP-BD35 X - X - X - may need to disable 24p, SDHC playback
Panasonic DMP-BD50 X X X - SDHC playback
Panasonic DMP-BD55 X X X - may need to disable 24p, SDHC playback
Panasonic DMP-BD60 X - X - X - X - SDHC playback
Panasonic DMP-BD80 X
Philips BDP7200 - X - need AUXDATA
Philips BDP7300 X no weightp support
Philips BDP7500 -
Pioneer BDP-05FD X X
Pioneer BDP-23FD X
Pioneer BDP-320 X
Pioneer BDP-51FD X X X X
Pioneer BDP-LX70A X
Pioneer BDP-LX71 X
Pioneer BDP-LX80 X
Pioneer BDP-LX91 X
Pioneer BDP-94HD X X
Pioneer BDP-95FD X
PowerDVD 7.3.3319 X X X ! X x X X last build with full HDD playback, some BDJ unsupported
PowerDVD 7.3.5105 ! X X X X X X X need AUXDATA/BDJO/CERTIFICATE/JAR/META from iso, AVCHD plays from HDD/DVD/BD but AC3/LPCM audio only
PowerDVD 8.0.2815 ! X X X X X X X need AUXDATA/BDJO/CERTIFICATE/JAR/META from iso, AVCHD plays from HDD/DVD/BD but AC3/LPCM audio only
PowerDVD 9.0.1531 ! X X X X X X X need AUXDATA/BDJO/CERTIFICATE/JAR/META from iso, AVCHD plays from HDD/DVD/BD but AC3/LPCM audio only
Samsung BD-P1000 -
Samsung BD-P1200 ! prior to firmware 2.3
Samsung BD-P1400 X X
Samsung BD-P1500 X ! ! ! no AUXDATA if firmware 2.3
Samsung BD-P1590 X - - ! no AUXDATA if firmware before 1.03, mkv/mp4 playback
Samsung BD-P1600 X - - ! no AUXDATA if firmware before 1.03, mkv/mp4 playback
Samsung BD-P2500 X - ! ! X X no AUXDATA if firmware before 2.5
Samsung BD-P2550 X - - no AUXDATA if firmware before 2.5
Samsung BD-P3600 X mkv/mp4 playback
Samsung BD-P4600 X mkv/mp4 playback
Samsung BD-P4610 X
Samsung BD-UP5000 -
Sharp BD-HP20 - - - - - - - - won't play BDR either
Sharp BD-HP21 - - - - - - - - won't play BDR either
Sherwood BDP-5003 X region free
Sony BDP-BX1 X X X
Sony BDP-S1 X
Sony BDP-S300 X X X X
Sony BDP-S301 X X X X
Sony BDP-S350 X X X X
Sony BDP-S360 X X X X
Sony BDP-N460 X X ! FULLBD only with HDMV menus, no weightp support
Sony BDP-S500 X X X X
Sony BDP-S550 X X X X X - - -
Sony BDP-S5000ES X
Sony Playstation 3 X - X ! ! ! X X only 1st gen EU PS3 plays FULLBD after goBD. cropped video positioned at top. 1280x <584 play in 480p, USB playback
WinDVD 9.14.091 ! X ! ! X X X X HDD/ISO playback with NEWBD/FULLBD only (no IDEX), DVD/BD playback of AVCHD with AC3/PCM only, FULLBD resized video doesn't fill screen
LEGEND
AVCHD = AVCHD output in TSMuxer 1.9.6-1.9.9 (AVCHDcoder, BD-Rebuilder w/Strict AVCHD, popBD w/remove AUXDATA, RipBot264)
NEWBD = Bluray output in TSMuxer 1.8.35+ (multiAVCHD Blu-ray, sx264)
OLDBD = Bluray output in TSMuxer 1.8.4-1.8.34 and AVCHD output in 1.8.35-1.9.5 / 1.10.4+ (BD-Rebuilder movie only, popBD, RipBot264)
FULLBD = BD-Rebuilder Full Backup keeping menus/extras (BD-Rebuilder has issues with PIP on DVD)
C1080 = Add blank playlist for cropped video in TSMuxer 1.9.8+ with 1920x800 video (multiAVCHD compliant height)
C720 = Add blank playlist for cropped video in TSMuxer 1.9.8+ with 1280x528 video (multiAVCHD compliant height)
DTSHD = DTS-HD (MA) playback
THD = TrueHD playback
X = plays
- = doesn't play
! = check notes
SDHC playback = playback of AVCHD on SDHC cards using multiAVCHD's SDHC output
USB playback = playback of AVCHD from USB drives in 8.3 file format
avchd_strict = multiAVCHD AVCHD for DVD\BD w/stricter AVCHD folder format, this may fix the need for AUXDATA, tests needed
avchd_aux = multiAVCHD AVCHD for DVD\BD w/o stricter AVCHD folder format
gizzin
14th April 2009, 04:39
the sony bdp-S300 plays new bd, avchd, old bd, and full bd
davsim
14th April 2009, 05:13
Panasonic DMP-BD60 plays AVCHD
turbojet
14th April 2009, 05:57
Thanks both
gizzin: Could you see if Sony BDP-S300 plays crop fixed?
davsim: Could you see if Panasonic DMP-BD60 plays new-bd, crop fixed, old-bd without auxdata folder and full-bd?
deank
14th April 2009, 08:15
@turbojet: Just a note about popBD. It used the old blu-ray in tsmuxer, now it's using the new avchd.
turbojet
14th April 2009, 08:22
@turbojet: Just a note about popBD. It used the old blu-ray in tsmuxer, now it's using the new avchd.
Ya I see that but outside of the mpls/clpi header change popBD default output is identical to OLD-BD.
AVCHD output removes the empty folders which seems to be the only effective difference to OLD-BD so far.
fifteen
14th April 2009, 14:11
Maybe you should add columns:
1- Whether the player states it supports AVCHD or not
2 - Whether the player states it supports DVD recordable media
rack04
14th April 2009, 14:23
Panasonic DMP-BD35 does not play NEW-BD. I get "unsupported disc".
fifteen
14th April 2009, 15:58
New Bluray output to BD5 (DVD+R):
works on Sony BDP-S350
doesn't work on Samsung BD-P1500 -*** Works if you remove AUXDATA.
So Samsung has media detection first (DVD vs. Bluray) and then won't play content on DVD unless AUXDATA is not present.
rapscallion
14th April 2009, 21:57
Re Pioneer 51. Both new and old BD work, with or without AUXDATA
davsim
14th April 2009, 22:38
Panasonic DMP-BD60 firmware v1.5 using your color bar tests on DVD-R:
avchd: yes
avchd-crop: yes
old-bd: yes
new-bd: no ("This disc is incompatible.")
turbojet
14th April 2009, 23:27
Thanks, updated
Maybe you should add columns:
1- Whether the player states it supports AVCHD or not
2 - Whether the player states it supports DVD recordable media
Sounds like a good idea but after doing some research there's quite a bit of misinformation the manufacturers websites so it may just complicate things that much more.
davsim: Regarding the crop does it appear just like the iso's that aren't cropped?
I've never personally tested the fixed crop hack but from what I can remember cropped video on the players I tested either didn't play at all, the video was at the top and was often cut off or it had a green bar.
scott1256ca
14th April 2009, 23:35
Pardon my confusion:
For the first time i tried to burn a bd-5 (dvd 5, whatever you want to call it) using imgburn. I wanted to play back on my ps3. I converted my file using tsmuxer 1.8.35 selecting blu-ray output (not AVCHD). I used UDF2.50 in imgburn. The ps3 says the disc is a data disc, not a BD.
File root should be
<drive>\BDMV
<drive>\CERTIFICATE
The m2ts file will play on the ps3.
The movie (if I create with AVCHD to USB drive and split @ 4G) will play on the ps3.
The movie seems to play and is recognized as a BD using powerdvd.
I tried to follow instructions from bitburners (of course the url won't load at all for me right now, so I can't check).
I have, in the recent past created many images which play fine as AVCHD off of a USB drive. So I am comfortable with that.
ps3 is firmware 2.60
So, anything I obviously missed? Do you have to convert to AVCHD to play on the ps3? I can't really tell from the above, but it looks like I should be able to play the disc if i use tsmuxer 1.8.34 (I used .35) and created a BD disk. Is that correct? Since the mt2s plays fine on the ps3, and I can create an AVCHD which plays ok from the same encode, I don't think it should be the x264 settings I used (which are within profile 4.1). The encode is 1280x720, but I don't think that should be a problem.
Any other suggestions? I'd rather not burn 10 coasters trying to get the correct settings.
Thanks
deank
14th April 2009, 23:43
This is not a discussion thread.
Burn your DVD with AVCHD option in tsmuxer (not that it makes sense if you can use USB drive).
davsim
15th April 2009, 02:06
davsim: Regarding the crop does it appear just like the iso's that aren't cropped?
I didn't notice an obvious difference, but I was testing with output set to letterbox 4:3 on an SDTV. I didn't see any major visual glitches.
turbojet
15th April 2009, 08:15
I changed the crop test samples to a video of a perfect circle to make it easier to tell if the aspect ratio is still correct.
Added 1280x528 cropped samples named with -720 because some players may display this resolution at 720x576/480 and/or 4:3 aspect ratio.
Added a mirror and compressed the zip from 8 MB to 1 MB.
davsim
15th April 2009, 16:42
I changed the crop test samples to a video of a perfect circle to make it easier to tell if the aspect ratio is still correct.
Added 1280x528 cropped samples named with -720 because some players may display this resolution at 720x576/480 and/or 4:3 aspect ratio.
Panasonic DMP-BD60:
I tried your new avchd-crop-720 and it played, but there was no image. It was just a blank black screen, but the the time counter was moving forward and I could fast forward, pause and play.
turbojet
15th April 2009, 23:42
Interesting that 1920x800 played but the 1280x528 didn't. Maybe it's seeing 528 and trying to play as 720x576 but it's getting confused by the 1280 width.
Furiousflea
16th April 2009, 02:00
I don't believe there are issues with discs that contain PIP tracks turbojet.
I firmly believe the problem here is solely the fault of BD-Rebuilder. I also suspect that all other SAPs would exhibit exactly the same behaviour it's just that nobody has tried those "problematic discs" (for BD-Rebuilder).
edit; in reference to the Sony BDP-SXXX problems in the table :)
PIP issues with some full BD
Sounds slightly misleading to me, but maybe that's just me ;)
Trahald
16th April 2009, 03:36
I firmly believe the problem here is solely the fault of BD-Rebuilder. I also suspect that all other SAPs would exhibit exactly the same behaviour it's just that nobody has tried those "problematic discs" (for BD-Rebuilder).What do you base that on? While it very well may be true (I have no clue either way) I'm just curious if there is evidence (ie working PIP produced by pro bluray authoring software written to the SAME media tested on the SAME stb) or is it a gut feeling (which I can then safely ignore)
turbojet
16th April 2009, 05:45
FULL-BD refers to BD-Rebuilder output though so while it may sound misleading when concerning retail BD it plays no role in the graph.
It could also be BD5/9 have PIP issues while BD25/50 don't. I didn't remember seeing any mention of red or blue laser media being used in the reports of it working or not working.
At first I wasn't planning on having the FULL-BD column as there's already a nice list of confirmed working players but I thought it might help to list what players have been tested and don't work.
Rodger
16th April 2009, 19:00
NEW FIRMWARE IS OUT !!!
http://support.samsung.de/support/support_down.aspx?guid=a21a756e-6fb8-48dd-aba9-0921dfd980e6&sh1=&sh2=&sh3=&sh4=&filetype=FM
Formerly known as "the bitch" NOW I havenīt found ANY DISC that just wonīt play!!! Even discs that my Panasonic DMP-BD30 decidedly doesnīt play are loaded as fast as any other one.
DVD-R , DVD-RW, DVD+RW (DVD+R not tested) = OKAY!:D
zodex
17th April 2009, 04:03
Samsung BD-P1600
avchd: yes
avchd-crop: yes
new-bd: no ("This Disc Cannot Be Displayed.")
turbojet
17th April 2009, 08:49
Rodger: do all test samples play ok? If you get a chance does a full-bd done with bd-rb work without removing the auxdata folder?
zodex: thanks for the test results, i added them to the list. Do you have a chance to try out old-bd, avchd-crop-720 and/or full-bd from bd-rb?
Rodger
21st April 2009, 17:16
Finally tested all images: Here is the conclusion
http://www.bilder-space.de/thumb/21.04RgiiWlclrJYRKvy.jpg (http://www.bilder-space.de/show.php?file=21.04RgiiWlclrJYRKvy.jpg)
deank
21st April 2009, 17:24
So it looks like they finally implemented full AVCHD support.
rack04
21st April 2009, 17:27
Care to explain what you mean by "may need to disable 24p"? I have a BD-35 and I enable "change FPS" and "Change Level" in every meta file regardless that the video is 24000/1001 and level 4.1.
deank
21st April 2009, 17:45
It is a function of the player/tv, not tsmuxer/software.
rack04
21st April 2009, 18:18
It is a function of the player/tv, not tsmuxer/software.
Oh I see. Thanks.
Furiousflea
21st April 2009, 20:00
What do you base that on? While it very well may be true (I have no clue either way) I'm just curious if there is evidence (ie working PIP produced by pro bluray authoring software written to the SAME media tested on the SAME stb) or is it a gut feeling (which I can then safely ignore)
No, it's how it stands as of now.
Who even said PIP doesn't work?
Nobody.
The reason PIP doesn't work at the moment (as far as any of us know) is because BDRB just discards the PIP track it anyway so it wouldn't play on any player. There has been no test to even check if it works. The only reason it's even there is because (and this is my gut feeling :)) a few people such as myself who own the Sony BDP-SXXX have reported that discs containing PIP tracks could potentially be causing problems for BDRB as it seems to map the wrong streams so that selecting 1 audio language for example will have the effect of playing a different one.
I suspect this "issue" has been lost in translation and appeared as "has issues with PIP discs". Which is simply not true to anyone's knowledge.
There's no reason to suggest it wouldn't play...Don't even know how it got misinterpreted to this point, unless someone has checked?
deank
21st April 2009, 20:23
PIP playback may be disabled in ALL players if they detect content as AVCHD or if BD player is an older model or conforms to BD profile 1 only.
Furiousflea
21st April 2009, 20:29
PIP playback may be disabled in ALL players if they detect content as AVCHD or if BD player is an older model or conforms to BD profile 1 only.
I'm not sure about DVD5\9 but when you burn to BD-R the Sony S550 reads it as "BD-R BDMV"...(this is what pops up when the bluray loads)I realise this thread is dealing with DVD5\9 but if BD-Live\BDJ is all working on DVD5\DVD9 (and it is)...
So shouldn't be a problem, but hey...you know never know :) Point is, nobody does know and there is no reported problem to the effect of saying PIP does not work for those Sony players. (Hence my post) :) If there is a problem, well that's great too just I've not read anywhere anyone actually checking.
koutou
22nd April 2009, 09:08
I'm using 1.8.35. Is it the old or new bd?
I currently don't own a standalone player but I would like to start creating blu-ray backups (just the movie) and burn them to disks. Which version should I use for best future compatibility? I guess the old one as seen from the chart?
Thank you for your help :)
deank
23rd April 2009, 13:42
@all: I created a small BDMV application to display some of the player's capabilities.
Check this post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1277183#post1277183) and comment here if you wish.
http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/bd_PSR_test.jpg
turbojet
24th April 2009, 09:52
Rodger: thanks for the results I updated the first post.
I'm using 1.8.35. Is it the old or new bd?
I currently don't own a standalone player but I would like to start creating blu-ray backups (just the movie) and burn them to disks. Which version should I use for best future compatibility? I guess the old one as seen from the chart?
Thank you for your help :)
1.8.35 - 1.9.5 AVCHD output appears to be identical to OLD-BD output. I added this to the legend.
The only playability difference I know of between OLD-BD and AVCHD is the AUXDATA folder. 3 Denon's and a Phillips need this folder while 4 Samsung must not have this folder.
I wouldn't suggest using bluray output after 1.8.34 for your case because it's yet to be tested thoroughly on red and blue laser media.
A 100% working version with all types of players doesn't exist. So I don't think a version can be recommended for your situation. It all really depends on what player you get supports. I have a feeling Denon and Philips requiring AUXDATA folder is more likely to change then Samsung's situation.
Ghitulescu
25th April 2009, 19:10
It may be a good idea to specifiy, if possible, the firmware version and the market (US, EU etc. since there are differences in hardware and firmware for the same player).
deank
28th April 2009, 10:11
Another request I posted in multiAVCHD thread:
Please someone with Panasonic/Samsung test if your players will play:
:D
[AVCHD for DVD-R] output with [x] Stricter AVCHD folder mode checked (i.e. without CERTIFICATE/AUXDATA and all other non-AVCHD folders) ... and burn the output to DVD-RW.
DVD should contain only:
BDMV\index.bdmv
BDMV\MovieObject.bdmv
BDMV\CLIPINF
BDMV\PLAYLIST
BDMV\STREAM
Dean
I will give it a try and report back.
UPDATE:
It now works, my Panasonic BD30 can now play it even with the Stricter AVCHD folder mode checked
Great work, thanks.
***
When all files are AVCHD compliant BD players should not require CERTIFICATE/AUXDATA or any other then the above listed. I posted this here just to let you all know if you didn't check this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146602).
Ghitulescu
29th April 2009, 08:41
B-pyramids may be a problem to Pioneers, although I'm not 100% sure (need more sources to check this). ->http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1279322#post1279322.
After reencoding the video to 100% BD compliance it worked perfectly.
Ryu77
29th April 2009, 11:16
I just bought a Sony BDP-S550 and I can not seem to be able to get DTS-HD MA or Dolby TrueHD to work from DVD media (AVCHD)...
Is this normal or have I got a faulty unit? These discs seem to play back fine on my PS3 (although of course HD audio is decoded internally). Is there any workaround that anybody knows of to enable HD audio from DVD media on this player?
Also, it might be a good idea to include which players support HD audio from DVD Media (AVCHD).
Edit: I tested Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA on the Panasonic DMPBD35 and DMPBD60 today. They both played (via bitstream) DTS-HD MA from DVD media with no problem. However, Dolby TrueHD kept sticking and audio was screechy (if that's a word) and broken.
Should I assume that nobody here is really interested in HD audio on DVD media?
I know in most cases space constraints make this an unsuitable choice. However, I have found that movies under 1 hour 45 minutes in length can still include HD audio with enough bitrate to spare for good quality 1080p video.
As I sell Home Theater/TV's, I have access to quite a few players and I can help compile which players support HD audio from DVD media and which do not.
I really think it's a good idea to include this on the list. We just got the LG BD370's in, I am hoping they might support TrueHD as well as DTS-HD MA...
I will post back soon. :)
I tested Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA on the Panasonic DMPBD35 and DMPBD60 today. They both played (via bitstream) DTS-HD MA from DVD media with no problem. However, Dolby TrueHD kept sticking and audio was screechy (if that's a word) and broken.
You can't get HD audio to work properly via optical/coaxial bitstream mode. There is not enough bandwidth.
The only way to test and get it to work is to use quality HDMI 1.3 cable to your AV.
turbojet
1st May 2009, 12:18
I added HDAUDIO column.
When you mean couldn't get hdaudio to work on sony S550 do you mean there was no sound or the disk wouldn't play at all?
Also if you are looking to test things. CROP720, CROP1080, HDAUDIO results would be very interesting. Also FULL-BD could use some work but that would probably be best done in a private setting to avoid getting accused of piracy.
You can't get HD audio to work properly via optical/coaxial bitstream mode. There is not enough bandwidth.
The only way to test and get it to work is to use quality HDMI 1.3 cable to your AV.
I didn't realise that if I didn't state that I was using HDMI that you would assume that I was using optical... ?
I am fully aware of the 1.5 Mbit/s limit that optical/coaxial SPDIF has... I did also post that DTS-HD MA was working on my system so it would be fair to assume that I made my position clear on this matter. Besides, you stated that it wont work properly without HDMI but I would like to clarify that HD audio wont work at all if no HDMI connection is present (or you could use analog multi channel connectors). The lossy core will be bitstreamed instead via optical/coaxial and the Receiver will decode the legacy AC3/DTS track.
I have this Receiver so I would be crazy to spend that sort of money and NOT use HDMI...
http://www.pioneer.com.au/Products/Home%20Entertainment/Amplifiers%20and%20Receivers/SCLX81.aspx
Thank you for making sure though... but it's all good. :)
When you mean couldn't get hdaudio to work on sony S550 do you mean there was no sound or the disk wouldn't play at all?
The Sony BDP-S550 locked up when attempting to play HD audio on AVCHD format.
The Panasonic DMP-BD35/DMP-BD60 plays DTS-HD MA from AVCHD format with no problem at all. However, with TrueHD the player stutters (audio is all garbled and messed up). Just to confirm that this wasn't a tsMuxeR related bug I authored a small section with Sonic Scenarist and the exact same thing happened so it's definitely the player.
Also, I noticed that in your notes the HD audio column is referring to decoding. I am actually referring to bitstreaming the HD audio which is why I wanted to make the move to a stand alone BD Player. I also have a PS3 but as we all know it can not bitstream HD audio, it can only decode onboard. I am extremely confident that my AV Reciever has superior decoders to my PS3 which is why I am interested in bistream. Even if I select regular Dolby Digital on my PS3 and bitstream it to my Receiver, it sounds BETTER than decoding HD audio onboard my PS3 and sending it as multi channel LPCM. Believe it or not, but that is what my ears tell me... And just to clarify, I sell a lot of high end audio as my full time job. :)
I didn't realise that if I didn't state that I was using HDMI that you would assume that I was using optical... ?
Thank you for making sure though... but it's all good. :)
Yeah.. sorry for trying to be helpful. I probably got confused when you said 'bitstream' so I thought of spdif, not HDMI bitstream.
And you didn't say that the sony locks up... I'll leave it to more experienced ones to answer (if this is the correct thread at all).
Yeah.. sorry for trying to be helpful. I probably got confused when you said 'bitstream' so I thought of spdif, not HDMI bitstream.
And you didn't say that the sony locks up... I'll leave it to more experienced ones to answer (if this is the correct thread at all).
I know you were trying to be helpful but I thought it was clear that I am quite concise when it comes to this sort of thing, and I am not some nOOb that rants on about things that I have no idea about... Hehe! :p
Yes, I know I didn't say the Sony locks up... I was elaborating due to turbojet's request (I did say it won't play HD audio from DVD media).
turbojet
1st May 2009, 14:48
Oh I forgot decoding means something a little different with HD recievers. I changed it to playback, is that ok or have any other suggestion?
I split DTS-HD and TRUEHD, do you think DTS-HD and DTS-MA can live together in the same column?
Also can you provide a scenarist authored TrueHD and DTS-MA samples for the test pack?
10 seconds or so is fine, but it should have a picture, colorbars is what I used in most of the samples.
@turbojet: Here (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/AVCHD_TESTS.exe)is an archive (800kb) - 1920x1080p@23.976fps w/ AC3 audio.
It contains 2 folders:
AVCHD_STRICT - contains:
AVCHD_STRICT\BDMV
AVCHD_STRICT\BDMV\index.bdmv
AVCHD_STRICT\BDMV\MovieObject.bdmv
AVCHD_STRICT\BDMV\CLIPINF
AVCHD_STRICT\BDMV\CLIPINF\00000.clpi
AVCHD_STRICT\BDMV\PLAYLIST
AVCHD_STRICT\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls
AVCHD_STRICT\BDMV\STREAM
AVCHD_STRICT\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts
AVCHD_AUX - contains:
AVCHD_AUX\BDMV
AVCHD_AUX\BDMV\index.bdmv
AVCHD_AUX\BDMV\MovieObject.bdmv
AVCHD_AUX\CERTIFICATE
AVCHD_AUX\CERTIFICATE\BACKUP
AVCHD_AUX\BDMV\AUXDATA
AVCHD_AUX\BDMV\BDJO
AVCHD_AUX\BDMV\JAR
AVCHD_AUX\BDMV\META
AVCHD_AUX\BDMV\BACKUP\BDJO
AVCHD_AUX\BDMV\CLIPINF
AVCHD_AUX\BDMV\CLIPINF\00000.clpi
AVCHD_AUX\BDMV\PLAYLIST
AVCHD_AUX\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls
AVCHD_AUX\BDMV\STREAM
AVCHD_AUX\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts
AVCHD_AUX\BDMV\BACKUP
AVCHD_AUX\BDMV\BACKUP\index.bdmv
AVCHD_AUX\BDMV\BACKUP\MovieObject.bdmv
AVCHD_AUX\BDMV\BACKUP\CLIPINF
AVCHD_AUX\BDMV\BACKUP\CLIPINF\00000.clpi
AVCHD_AUX\BDMV\BACKUP\PLAYLIST
AVCHD_AUX\BDMV\BACKUP\PLAYLIST\00000.mpls
People can test them, burning their contents to DVD-R.
turbojet
1st May 2009, 15:34
Would they fit in one of the current columns?
Also I see TSMuxer changed their AVCHD output again in 1.10.1 they kept CERTIFICATE and AUXDATA folders ugh.
rack04
1st May 2009, 15:37
The Panasonic DMP-BD35/DMP-BD60 plays DTS-HD MA from AVCHD format with no problem at all. However, with TrueHD the player stutters (audio is all garbled and messed up). Just to confirm that this wasn't a tsMuxeR related bug I authored a small section with Sonic Scenarist and the exact same thing happened so it's definitely the player.
Does the TrueHD track that you're testing have the embedded AC3 track?
Would they fit in one of the current columns?
Both are in AVCHD format. 1st one is the STRICT one. 2nd one is almost the same, but has these unnecessary folders. I believe they are useful for testing AVCHD on DVD.
Samples probably won't fit any column, because 1st and 3rd don't represent real AVCHD.
Probably you'll have to remove multiAVCHD from AVCHD= legend, because it is not the same as tsMuxeR's AVCHD.
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