replacing vista 32bit with xp 32bit

[radar]

hi,i have a hp laptop and would like to replace vista 32bit with xp 32bit.can this be done with out losing any hardware.model dv6000,with amd.
thanks

[LoRd_MuldeR]

Yes. If your hardware can run Vista, it can run XP for sure. And of course you won't "loose" any hardware when switching the OS ;)

[DJ Bobo]

No, he probably means loosing hardware through lack of driver support, which is very possible with notebooks in general.

May I ask why you wanna switch to XP?

[LoRd_MuldeR]

No, he probably means loosing hardware through lack of driver support, which is very possible with notebooks in general.

I'd say that driver support for 32-Bit XP is at least as good as driver support for Vista, as XP is still more widespread than Vista.

Only the driver support for 64-Bit XP could be a bit problematic, but usually it isn't either.

The only real problem I see is that he might loose his Vista that came with the laptop, as the vendors usually deliver a "recovery" disc only...

[JohnnyMalaria]

I tried (for my wife's laptop) - after trying everything conceivable including slipstreaming SATA drivers into the XP install CD - I phoned Dell and they said 'tough luck' - until I gave them the serial and they said have my wife's company's IT guy phone them to get a set of XP install CDs. They only offer this to corporate customers.

So - do your homework very, very, very thoroughly unless you want to end up with an expensive, heavy fly swatter. SATA drivers are the most common problem.

[LoRd_MuldeR]

If you choose "Legacy" mode in the BIOS, the SATA drives will be detected as IDE drives by the OS. Works flawlessly for me, no need to install any SATA drivers...

[JohnnyMalaria]

I didn't have that option...

[DJ Bobo]

Yeah, notebook BIOS are very light, I don't have that option either.
I looked over at HP's site though, they seem to have XP drivers for that model (should be dv6000z I guess).

[Ajax_Undone]

What model Laptop/Notebook is it...

[Blue_MiSfit]

It can be very tricky stuff.

A friend had a laptop that came with Vista 32. No drivers listed on the site for Vista x64, but I was able to piece them together (a total nightmare getting the touchpad and webcam drivers, I ended up stealing them from another similar laptop's driver page).

XP was a little tricky too, but I finally got it all working :P

Laptops are such a PITA... That's why all mine does is sit on my nightstand in my bedroom and play videos over the WiFi :)

~MiSfit

[radar]

hey thanks guys for your response.
the model of the laptop is hp DV6327ca.
i am concerned about losing the sound card , the wireless network and the video card.Ive herd about sound cards that are integrated may not function.
also this model has web cam

[mr soft]

Is your laptop still under warranty ?

I ask, as this will most probably be voided once you format your pre-installed OS. Installing a dual OS would be the only way to go but with very little gain.

[radar]

hi mr soft
my laptop is out of warranty.
I'm reformatting with xp right now,i will let you guys now how it went.

[GrofLuigi]

For all laptops I've seen, one of these guides is enough (and essential!) to get the OS installed.

Intel (http://www.msfn.org/board/Integration-Intel-Sata-Raid-drivers-t107504.html)

Nvidia (http://www.msfn.org/board/Integration-NVIDIA-nForce-Raid-and-SATA-drivers-t51140.html&p=356029)

All other drivers can be found and installed later.

GL

[DJ Bobo]

I ask, as this will most probably be voided once you format your pre-installed OS
What kind of joke is that? This is absolutely not true!

@ radar
All XP drivers for your model can be found HERE (http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareList?os=228&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&lang=en&product=3379141).

[laserfan]

...would like to replace vista 32bit with xp 32bit.can this be done with out losing any hardware. thanks

i am concerned about losing the sound card

I'm reformatting with xp right now,i will let you guys now how it went.Good luck, radar, and many thanks for your correct and proper use of "losing" in your posts! It's rare that anyone on these boards gets it right anymore! :o

losing: releasing from one's possession
to lose: to misplace, to no longer have-or-possess :)

loose: no longer tight! un-tied!
loosing: releasing, or causing something to become loose! :p

[mr soft]

What kind of joke is that? This is absolutely not true!


This was Mediamarkt´s response when I asked about installing an alternative OS. I´m sure their not alone. It´s more of a cautionary advise to OP in case he might fall into this type of situation.
It´s one of those things, am I willing to test their policy and find out the hard way? No .

[radar]

i cant seem to find the driver for the graphics.NVIDIA Ge Force Go 6150 for xp

[LoRd_MuldeR]

i cant seem to find the driver for the graphics.NVIDIA Ge Force Go 6150 for xp

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_182.50_whql.html

[DJ Bobo]

@ mr soft
That was not MediaMarkt's response, that was the answer of an idiot working at MediaMarkt, that doesn't know his stuff. You could have just gone to his boss, it would have cleared everything. And in case he doesn't understand, you threaten them with a lawyer, that works wonders with those idiots (because they know they're wrong!).

[Blue_MiSfit]

Hopefully his laptop supports reference drivers.. I know the Quadro NVS 135 in my Dell Latitude D630 definitely doesnt (in Vista x64 at least) :(

Otherwise, I'm sure you can dig up working XP drivers for that specific laptop somewhere...

~MiSfit

[radar]

hi LoRd_MuldeR
i tried that link for the graphics driver,and it says its not compatible with the hardware.

[LoRd_MuldeR]

hi LoRd_MuldeR
i tried that link for the graphics driver,and it says its not compatible with the hardware.

That's actually quite surprising, as "GeForce 6150" is listed under "Products Supported" by that driver :confused:

Maybe it's because the "Go" version of the GeForce 6150 isn't supported. There's a separate category for the "GeForce Go 7" series, but not for the "GeForce Go 6" series :rolleyes:

But if the drivers aren't available from NVIDIA's site, where else should they be available? I'd ask in the NVIDIA forum's ...

[radar]

hi LoRd_MuldeR
Ive tried a few drivers,but they wouldn't recognize the card.windows is doing a large update (44) and the graphics driver is in this update.i will report after its done.

[Blue_MiSfit]

:( that's exactly what happens to me... even though the Quadro reference drivers support the NVS135, I can't install...

Maybe modified INIs?

~MiSfit

[radar]

windows update loaded in the graphics driver,so my graphics are good.in the device manager I'm missing a driver for something,i have the dreaded yellow question marks.:confused:

[LoRd_MuldeR]

windows update loaded in the graphics driver,so my graphics are good.in the device manager I'm missing a driver for something,i have the dreaded yellow question marks.:confused:

Unless you are missing something important you don't need to worry that much :p

However it may be much easier to guess what that device is if you told us what its name is...

[radar]

when i open the folder "other devices" i get:
-(3) base system device
-coprocessor
-other pci bridge device
-sm bus controller
all this is just under network adapters

[JohnnyMalaria]

I think you need to install the motherboard drivers. On one of my desktops, after installing the OS I will see the same things you describe all lumped together. If I install the correct driver package for the mobo (from Intel in my case) then all those devices end up in the right place. Without them, other hardware won't behave correctly with the OS (for me, that means the network adapter).

[radar]

my network drivers are fine its the folder just under them.
im missing these:
-(3) base system device
-coprocessor
-other pci bridge device
-sm bus controller
im not sure what these are for,but the laptop seems to be working fine.:confused:

[JohnnyMalaria]

Those items you list are the ones I had listed until I installed the vendor's motherboard drivers and then they got assigned correctly. The "Other PCI Bridge Device" and "SM Bus Controller" typically require chipset-specific drivers. Obtaining these for an unsupported OS on a proprietary laptop motherboard may be difficult.

[GrofLuigi]

I think this (http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?softwareitem=ob-42431-1&cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&product=1842155) is the driver you need.

GL

[radar]

I think this (http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?softwareitem=ob-42431-1&cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&product=1842155) is the driver you need.

GL

hey thanks GrofLuigi,that cleared up all but the 3 base system device.i have no idea what it is,also i have installed 4 gigs of ram but it only shows 2.68.
when i had vista on it showed all 4 gigs.
thanks

[LoRd_MuldeR]

Be aware that a 32-Bit Operating system can only access ~3 GB of RAM, no matter how many RAM is installed on the machine.

Theoretically 32 bits would be sufficient to address exactly 4 GB of RAM, but practically there is Memory Mapped I/O which reduces the address space available to the "real" RAM.

Consequently ~1 GB of your 4 GB RAM will be unused under a 32-Bit system. This applies to 32-Bit Vista as well as Windows XP (32-Bit).

The good thing is that very few applications will actually need that much memory. Also Windows XP will use significantly less memory than Vista ;)

I recommend to use ProcessExplorer (http://technet.microsoft.com/de-de/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx) and look at Physical Memory usage. I rarely see this go above 2,5 GB, although I got the full 4 GB available on my Windows XP 64-Bit Edition.

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/8967/procexpb.th.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/8967/procexpb.jpg)

[GrofLuigi]

Base System Device

Google (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22base+system+device%22&btnG=Google+Search) tells me it's probably a card reader, most probably you need this (http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?softwareitem=ob-42432-1&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&product=1842155&os=228&lang=en).

GL

[burfadel]

If you set it from AHCI to compatible mode in the BIOS (or by default having it on compatible mode) the drives appear as IDE drives. It may mak installing XP easier, but the problem with it is you lose SATA advanced features, such as NCQ etc. NCQ is much better than it used to be. Just means you'll end up with a slower than normal drive, not to mention the performance drivers on offer by chipset makers, such as the Intel Matrix Storage Manager (MSM), won't be available - I'm talking about the performance driver side of MSM, not the raid side!

Another issue is once set you cannot change, as Windows won't like it! :S

[radar]

GrofLuigi
thanks for the link,it fixed my last missing driver and everything is working.:)


thanks everyone for your help:thanks: