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Codex0nz
26th February 2009, 00:41
Series: .hack//ROOTS
Source: Madman Australia
Problems: Field blending...that's about it as far as i can tell :S

Although i keep getting ghosted frames, eg, a scene where theyre talking, her mouth will be closed but you can still see like 50% of the mouth open from the previous frame as if it has been laid over in photoshop at 50%

Also ghosting in scene changes, entire change but you could still see the faint colour of the monster from the previous scene overlaying the current frame.

The current script im using:
DGDecode_mpeg2source("D:\Convert\Hack Roots\Test 2\vts_06_1.d2v", info=3)
ColorMatrix(hints=true, threads=0, interlaced=true)
#deinterlace

animeivtc(mode=2, aa=0, iregion="PAL", oregion="NTSC", mt=true)

crop( 4, 4, -4, -4)

BicubicResize(720,400,0,0.5) # Bicubic (Neutral)
oregion set to ntsc because im trying to restore it back to 24fps

Sample:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FVX6S4R0

Results:
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/5066/picture2r.png
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3993/picture3s.png
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4992/picture4c.png
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8998/picture5a.png
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3858/picture7ipe.png


Any help is appreciated -_-;

MadRat
26th February 2009, 10:15
Kind of looks like the previous scenes are bleeding through due to the interlacing. What are you using to deinterlace your DVD?

Codex0nz
26th February 2009, 20:19
Kind of looks like the previous scenes are bleeding through due to the interlacing. What are you using to deinterlace your DVD?

animeivtc(mode=2, aa=0, iregion="PAL", oregion="NTSC", mt=true)

mode 2

from the documentation:
Double Hard telecine /// Field blended norm-conversion (mode=2 or 4)

with highest precision

Im kind of gob smacked and don't know what it is that has gone wrong -_-

MadRat
27th February 2009, 09:28
Each interlaced video frame is made up of two fields, when you put the fields together you get a complete frame. I can't be sure but I'm guessing what's happening is you've got a scene change that happens in the middle of the interlacing. One field is the old scene and the other field is the new scene. If I guessed right about that then you could use a freezeframe(startframenumber,copyfromframenumber,endframenumber) to copy the previous or next frame onto the one with the ghosting. It would look something like freezeframe(128,129,128) because you're only replacing one frame the first and last numbers would be the same. There's a software program called YATTA that can help you with this but there is little to no documentation on how to use it and what little documentation there is has become so out of date it may be more harmful than useful.

Codex0nz
27th February 2009, 10:06
that's so weird though, surely there's another solution? :/

it's not consistent either, like it will be like the lines of an arm showing in one, then colour spots on the other etc

MadRat
28th February 2009, 05:19
Sorry I forgot to mention, you might want to ask on the AnimeIVTC thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=138305) to see what they think.

Codex0nz
28th February 2009, 05:33
will do

Codex0nz
12th March 2009, 01:01
I don't mean to bump, but has anyone had time to review this thread? I still have not been successful so far :(

MOmonster
12th March 2009, 09:15
You can't restore this. It was a fieldblended, now it's just deinterlaced and you have a progressive blended one.
You can restore the 12 and 8fps sequences, but the full motion parts (pans and other effects with 24fps) look already really bad. The motion will get even worse after using a deblender.
Theoretical it's not impossible but there is no working solution for this until now.

Codex0nz
12th March 2009, 21:23
You can't restore this. It was a fieldblended, now it's just deinterlaced and you have a progressive blended one.
You can restore the 12 and 8fps sequences, but the full motion parts (pans and other effects with 24fps) look already really bad. The motion will get even worse after using a deblender.
Theoretical it's not impossible but there is no working solution for this until now.

That's a bugger

Thanks for taking a look mo

I thought you might have some kind of magical script :P

Lyris
16th March 2009, 06:52
The reason for this is video standards conversion. The 60i source has been converted to 50i with field blending. If you were to acquire an NTSC version of this show, you'd likely be able to get rid of it with Inverse 3:2.