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_DW_
2nd March 2009, 19:53
I am an idiot.
I just noticed that I can do all the cutting that I need to do from dvddecrypter right on the same ifo page where I pull the show off in one big vob. I can pull them off by chapters and totally skip the cutting and hacking and mashing it all up.
I've been using this tool for years and never even though of that. It's been sitting right in front of me all the time. I even believe that was pointed out to me a few posts back.
Guest
2nd March 2009, 22:06
How about the original section where I first noticed the original jerking problem? Yes, perfect.
How do I post that? Just a url to file link somewhere? Try this:
http://www.mediafire.com/
ChronoCross
3rd March 2009, 01:30
Where did ffmpeg come into this at? Anyway you must have missed the post where I agree'ed with all this and abandoned that part of the process. Until I understand more about Avisynth I'm going to use the cutting feature in staxrip. Unless I'm dead wrong on this I think it uses avisynth for the cutting part.
okay mencoder, they all use the same libraries.
But on the other hand this process was "invented" for subtitle processing and not anime encoding. Instead of muxing the video and audio in with them just cut them out. That way if you have a vob set of 4 shows you will have 4 mkv with nothing but subtitles in them.
Once your done with the encoding you just mux the subs in the with the video and audio and everything should line up. Or at least that is the theory.
I am an idiot.
I just noticed that I can do all the cutting that I need to do from dvddecrypter right on the same ifo page where I pull the show off in one big vob. I can pull them off by chapters and totally skip the cutting and hacking and mashing it all up.
I've been using this tool for years and never even though of that. It's been sitting right in front of me all the time. I even believe that was pointed out to me a few posts back.
Congrats........pretty much everyone in this thread was wondering why you weren't using this feature.
Comatose
3rd March 2009, 12:32
Actually I doubt it would have because the "silliness" has nothing to do with the problem. It wasn't a filter problem, it was a problem with the process I was using. Once I removed the Dss and avisynth level the problem went away. Applying ether the ivtc or the yadif, which I did; neither fixed the problem. Only by changing from staxrip to mencode and removing the dss layer did the problem go away.
You were causing the problem, not Avisynth or DSS. You told DSS to convert the framerate while the video was still interlaced, which is a very very bad idea...
If you had done it properly (which probably means doing IVTC, in this case) then it would be smooth.
It was only because of your actions, not the tools you were using.
I was shocked to see nobody mentioned IVTC until deep into the first page...
Guest
9th March 2009, 04:13
Why are you giving us an MKV when we asked for a sample of the original source, which you claimed was a DVD?
Use DGSPlit or equivalent to cut a fragment of the VOB and upload that.
_DW_
9th March 2009, 05:19
No, that was a 18 mb file itself. It took 45 mins to upload that. I'm calling a halt to this. The mkv file contains the original streams, it will have to do. If not, then oh well.
I'm happy with the results I got weeks ago. I'm currently doing all my encoding using mencoder and piping it to x264. Once I figure out more about avisynth then I might revisit this problem. But for now I'm moving on.
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?tfmznmtdmkm
JEEB
9th March 2009, 05:30
neuron2: As _DW_ said that .mkv was the way he was ripping data off DVDs it seems... it contained telecined MPEG-2 and AC3 from a (probable) R1 release it seems. So only the format can feel weird :)
_DW_: This is, as so many said, a telecined stream that has to be decimated, too (checked by fields, also it has that dupe there in cycles of four frames+dupe). So it is 24000/1001fps. And somewhat noisy, so filtering that out could be a good idea.
To IVTC:
MPEG2Source("girls bravo_Track1.d2v", cpu=0)
tfm(mode=1).tdecimate(mode=1)
crop(2,2,-2,0)
spline36resize(720,480)
As for filtering, that thing's noisiness is pretty bad at places, dfttest didn't really work alone, neither did FFT3d (well seen around frame 342 or so when the window is on-screen). Pretty much only the motion compensated dfttest -> MVDegrain2 -filter chain I originally got from Avisynth.org wiki and then edited it did something to it :/ (oh jolly gosh how good framerates I get from that). Of course extra grain can be added at such places, but IMHO that still isn't the best solution.
edit: actually raising the cpu=x had a pretty good effect on parts of it, but it would probably create "fake blurryness"- like effect there, which I don't really like... Also awarpsharp might do something here, but it's a filter that is usually considered to be something that one shouldn't use.
Guest
9th March 2009, 14:13
neuron2: As _DW_ said that .mkv was the way he was ripping data off DVDs it seems He subsequently said he figured out that he didn't need to do all that silliness. So I was wondering why he is still being silly about it.
Sagekilla
9th March 2009, 15:39
There's no need to upload a huge sample. A small 2 -3 MB slice of your source .vob file works fine. That shouldn't take long (5 - 7 mins for you)
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