Bad video (NTSC to PAL)

[Floatingshed]

Hello,
I'm really struggling to find a way to get a smooth NTSC to PAL conversion of this clip:

http://www.adrive.com/public/7348780264b8650b95037696e59de8c34374d41f89605c201afb9babafc5d095.html

I've tried all the scripts that are available here and they (especially autopal/NTSCtools) work fine on other clips but not this one! Lots of very bad judder/stutter.
Please someone with more experience than me take a look at it and tell me what is going on.
Many thanks.

[Alex_ander]

Did you try to IVTC it? After removing additional fields (it seems to work correctly) there remains something imperfect in motion.
After IVTC and resizing you can run it through DGPulldown with 23.976->25 setting.

Another option is interpolation to 25i after IVTC in DGIndex (honor pulldown flags):
#loaded dgdecode, mvtools2, decomb521
MPEG2Source("E:\My Downloads\1\clip.d2v", cpu=0)
Telecide(order=1, guide=1).Decimate(5)
LanczosResize(720,576)
super = MSuper(pel=2)
backward_vec = MAnalyse(super, isb = true)
forward_vec = MAnalyse(super, isb = false)
MFlowFps(super, backward_vec, forward_vec, num=50, den=1, ml=100)
ConvertToYUY2()
AssumeBFF().DoubleWeave().SelectEvery(4,1)#25i TFF

[Floatingshed]

Thanks for the suggestions, tried 'em all!
The motion is always wrong... I'm tearing my hair out!

[jeffy]

File is not available publicly anymore... How can someone try :)?

[scharfis_brain]

I've looked into this sample video yesterday.
I've found a irregular 3:2 Pattern which sometimes breaks
from 2:3:2:3:2:3
to 2:3:1:3:2:3
or 2:2:2:3:2:3
or other derivates.

this means that there are orphaned fields.
also chroma seems to be mangled for the orhaned fields.

so far every decimator was unable to keep the orphaned fields...

[Floatingshed]

File is not available publicly anymore... How can someone try :)?


Great! Even the online storage doesn't like this file! I'll try another one.

[jeffy]

Use http://www.mediafire.com

[Floatingshed]

Use http://www.mediafire.com


Thanks Jeffy, good idea. Here it is:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/nmnjyfijznd/clip.mpg

Any help finding a way to decimate this clip would be much appreciated. Thanks.

[Mug Funky]

looks like the editor's done some kind of oldschool speedchange (rather than the kind that blends or attempts to mocomp).

i'm throwing some of the NTSCtools at it to see if the result is smooth... i'm guessing it'll jolt occasionally.

...yep, jolty. perhaps if you bobbed it with a field-matching bobber like tdeint and encoded with VFR?