Avidemux PPF

[flebber]

I have a source albeit poor quality that I want to encode with avidemux. I ran it past mediainfo and it came back with interlacing as progressive PPF. From here http://www.headbands.com/gspot/mpeg_interlace_indicators.htm it states that [PPF] Picture-per-field: Each field is encoded separately with its own picture (requires two pictures per frame). Not too common./QUOTE].

Any recommendations for dealing with PPF? I tried Yadif and Tdeint but didn't get the results but then I also left them on default settings.

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[Adub]

Posting a link to a clip of the original source file will help you the most. Just running off of the information you gave us won't guarantee success.

[flebber]

Okay not a problem, I notice however that mediainfo reports all mpeg-1 video as progressive ppf even when to me it clearly is not. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3361/3267132771_382e92751a_o.jpg

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[mean]

mpeg1 video are always progressive
Interlaced or field encoding is/are a novelty of mpeg2

[LoRd_MuldeR]

Interlaced or field encoding is/are a novelty of mpeg2

What a regression that was :rolleyes:

[flebber]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3361/3267132771_382e92751a_o.jpg

If this is blended fields and not interlacing any advice? I have been trying several different settings with Tdeint to resolve these.
looking at threads like this http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=75432

which has this as the solution to blended fields
the only way to remove blends reliable, is to
- do a fullframerate deinterlacing to 50 fps
- detect blends
- replace them with one of their neighbors
- knock out the dupes & tripels, so you result in a smooth nice 23.976 fps progressive video.


oops sorry this was the link to the above quote http://neuron2.net/board/viewtopic.php?t=419

[poisondeathray]

Srestore() might be another option for field blended material

Maybe you should post an unprocessed source clip in the avisynth subforum for help?

[flebber]

Srestore() might be another option for field blended material

Maybe you should post an unprocessed source clip in the avisynth subforum for help?

Yeah I will soon, I was trying to see if it could be solved in avidemux but no success at the minute.

I tried several things, one really confused me though(this may not be that hard:eek:) if I use seperatefields, it creates full field half size. There appears no way to "unseperatefields" after other functions(processing) is done, so I end up stuck with nice half size video.

[mean]

not unseparatefield but mergefield does what you want

[flebber]

okay sounds good but I seem to be creating interlacing.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=75432

which has this as the solution to blended fields
following this format.

the only way to remove blends reliable, is to
- do a fullframerate deinterlacing to 50 fps
- detect blends
- replace them with one of their neighbors
- knock out the dupes & tripels, so you result in a smooth nice 23.976 fps progressive video.
oops sorry this was the link to the above quote http://neuron2.net/board/viewtopic.php?t=419following this format.


I am using seperatefields -> resample fps to 50 -> Tdeint mod ela2 -> Decomb Decimate cycle 5 -> Resample fps to 23.97 -> merge fields -> temporal cleaner -> msharpen.

I have tried different variants of this with no success any ideas ?