Where is iso file or do I need to convert file?

[Phototaker]

If I read the forum correctly then it appears that AGK can add subtitles to the outputted file if you select an ISO file as your input.

Excuse my ignorance but I'm not sure just what an ISO file is & how to achieve it. What I already have on my hard drive are some ripped movies that I can play using programs like Power DVD & when I do so I can see the subtitles if I wish. When I open up the video_ts file for said video in AGK I don't see any files marked as ISO. Am I doing something wrong or do I have to convert the video_ts file to an iso file & if so just how is this done?

[manono]

You don't have to do anything. Open the IFO for the movie in AutoGK and choose the subtitles you want, either to be burned/embedded into the movie (the default behavior) or to be created but kept separate/external (done in the Advanced Settings).

[CWR03]

If I read the forum correctly then it appears that AGK can add subtitles to the outputted file if you select an ISO file as your input.
You probably meant IFO as manono mentioned. ISO is a disk image, and AutoGK cannot open that.

[Phototaker]

I'm still missing the point. I can open the video_ts file but I don't see any file with an extension of either iso or ifo & I assume that this is what I should be looking for. I can open the video_ts file with Power DVD & play the files with subtitles so I know that the subtitles must be in the video_ts folder. I'm confused because seems to be only allowing me to open vob files. I'm using version 2.45 of AGK.

[manono]

If it's a proper DVD, then it has IFOs. Can't you see the extensions (.IFO, .BUP, .VOB)?

If you look in that folder, either you see them all or you see none of them. Or maybe it's a decrypting problem. Just exactly how did you get the files onto your hard drive? Here's what a typical DVD on the hard drive looks like:

[Phototaker]

The files were for the most part ripped by DVD Shrink. I have just put in my drive a DVD that I know has subtitles & no copy protection. If I click on My Computer go to the drive & click the video_ts file it opens up & I can see files that are called VTS, vts.bup & video_ts bup. Windows says that these are MPEG & BUP files. There is nothing else in the folder. I can use PowerDVD to play this ripped folder & see subtitles.

[manono]

BUP files are BackUP files for the IFOs. If the IFOs are corrupted or missing, then the BUP files will take over.

Take the original DVD and decrypt it again. This time use DVDDecrypter set for IFO Mode (not the default File Mode). That way you'll decrypt only what you need from the DVD (no menus or any other extraneous stuff). Then load the IFO into AutoGK and take it from there.

http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/Rippers/SetupDVDDecrypter_3.5.4.0.exe

If it's a newer DVD with newer copy protection then use DVDFab HD Decrypter set for Main Movie:

http://www.dvdfab.com/free.htm

[Phototaker]

Here are the files in Question



VIDEO_TS 12 KB MPEG File
VIDEO_TS 1,456 KB MPEG File
VIDEO_TS.BUP 12 KB BUP File

VTS_01_0 68 KB MPEG File
VTS_01_0 676 KB MPEG File
VTS_01_0.BUP 68 KB BUP File
VTS_01_1 1,048,574 KB MPEG File

VTS_01_2 1,048,574 KB MPEG File
VTS_01_3 1,048,574 KB MPEG File
VTS_01_4 1,048,574 KB MPEG File

VTS_01_5 459,988 KB MPEG File

[Phototaker]

When I saw that you said that the BUP was just a backup copy of the IFO file I thought that it might be easier to set just change the BUP extension to IFO. I tried this but Windown would not allow this since it said that the IFO file already existed even though I can't see it.

[manono]

If it's really there and not being seen then it's beyond my knowledge, although perhaps someone else will see this and reply.

As a workaround, open the first VOB and the rest get loaded automatically. You can do everything you can do when opening the IFO (sort of) except get any subtitles. Those you'll have to load using the CTRL-F8 trick. Load the VOBs and then hit CTRL-F8 and a new window opens allowing you to browse to and open external subs. You can create the IDX/SUB subtitle files yourself by using VobSub Configure (part of VobSub included in AutoGK). Here's a guide for creating the subs:

http://www.doom9.org/dvobsub.htm

and a guide for loading them into AutoGK:

http://forum.videohelp.com/topic316471.html?sid=dac13291dc4071120478a3adcbf3edea

[X5-452]

Windows is probably hiding the extensions for ifo files. See here how to change that:

http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=193

[Phototaker]

Windows has always been set to show hidden files.

So far I have re ripped the video as suggested above but still no ifo file. I do however now have a file called 'VTS 01-file information'. Its a text file which lists which subtitles are presumably in the video_ts file. Perhaps I had the wrong boxes ticked before had DVDDecrypter set for IFO Mode.

[netmask]

Windows has always been set to show hidden files.

So far I have re ripped the video as suggested above but still no ifo file. I do however now have a file called 'VTS 01-file information'. Its a text file which lists which subtitles are presumably in the video_ts file. Perhaps I had the wrong boxes ticked before had DVDDecrypter set for IFO Mode.

I don't mean this to be taken as pedantic but word usage can cause confusion for both questioner and answerer. You keep referring to VIDEO_TS as a file when it is a folder containing files that will have suffixes VOB, IFO and BUP

When you first ripped the DVD did you have the setting for one large VOB file perhaps?

Whilst you say "show hidden files and folders" is TICKED you don't mention if "Hide extensions for known file types" is UNTICKED

[manono]

Its a text file which lists which subtitles are presumably in the video_ts file.
That's something you get when decrypting using the IFO Mode of DVD Decrypter. It also gives you another IFO, which I guess you don't see.
Whilst you say "show hidden files and folders" is TICKED you don't mention if "Hide extensions for known file types" is UNTICKED
That's probably it. Try checking that box to see if you can finally see IFOs.

[Phototaker]

Yes that was the problem. I can finally see the ifo files. Thank you. I feel stupid for not realizing that switch was wrong before.

Since I could now see the IFO file I thought that I should give it a go with a short video. I choose a video that had several short films in it, all of which had subtitles. It seems that I have one IFO file for each set of VOB's. I added the first set of vob's & told the program to add it to the list. I then clicked again & this time selected the IFO file which had the same number as the vob. In the subtitle window that popped up I saw that English was listed twice. Maybe the second one was just comments. Naturally I found that could only select one since the titles are supposed to be burnt in. The resulting avi file doesn't have any titles. Could it be because when you select to add an ifi file it doesn't fill in anything for the output file. I'll try it again. Thanks for the help

[manono]

It's often a good idea to run the Preview before encoding, especially if subtitles are involved. No subs in the Preview means no subs in the final AVI. I'll assume you just picked one of the sub tracks and made no further changes or additions regarding the subs, especially in the Advanced Settings section.

I didn't quite understand what you said about the short video, though. Did you decrypt in IFO Mode and get just the single short video, or did you decrypt the entire DVD and choose the video amongst several choices after opening the IFO?

As for which subs to choose, play the DVD and either check the subtitle menu to see what the choices are, or play a video and switch back and forth between the 2 sub tracks to see what the differences are.

[Phototaker]

I have never been able to do a preview. Once I have added the vob set that I wanted & told the program to add the file to the list I could do a preview at this time if I wished if I wished. Then when I go back to the folder to select a ifo file I make certain that I select the one that has the same suffix as the vob's suffix. I know that I have selected the correct ifo file because the program displays the running time of that file. Having done this & selecting English I find that nothing happens if I try to select preview.

My reference to selecting a short video was only because a short one wold take less time to encode than a long video & I just wished to see if indeed the titles were being written into the new file.

[manono]

Did AutoGK make the sub file for you? Look around for a couple of files, one with an .idx extension, the other with .sub. If so, open the IDX using Notepad and scroll down a ways until you get to the timestamps. Are there timestamps? And do they correspond to the times in the video when there's dialog? Or do they begin after the video ends? And can you post the log for this failed encode?

[Phototaker]

I can't see any idx files. If I go to the AGK log I can see that it says that the files has no subtitles. This doesn't account for why the preview option won't work when I have selected the desired subtitle.

I can't help but thinking that if AGK can find, extract & use subtitles & burn them into the file its creating that perhaps it might somehow use the data extracted from the file & then reuse it as subtitles that can be turned on & off. This may also entail AGK having to do extra steps between extracting & reusing the data but isn't the data it would be working with would be either similar if not identical to wht its already got? Just a thought.

[manono]

I can't understand what that 2nd paragraph says.

Can you extract the subs yourself? Here's a guide:

http://www.doom9.org/dvobsub.htm

VobSub Configure is included in Gordian Knot, if you have that. Or get it here:

http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/Subtitles/VobSub_2.23.exe

Then check to see if there are timestamps. What I'm trying to get at is if there are subs in that VTS.

[Phototaker]

All that I meant in my second paragraph was that it seems as if Vobsub, which is included in the AGK package apparently can extract & save subtitles for latter use or as burned titles on your new file. Since AGK allows you to add external titles to your new file it seems that it would not have been too large a stretch to just to have ADK automatically just use subtitles found in the ifo file without the used having to do anything. This is the sort of thing that the Divx Converter can do at least some of the time.

As for the time stamps I'll check them as soon as I can.

[manono]

Since AGK allows you to add external titles to your new file it seems that it would not have been too large a stretch to just to have ADK automatically just use subtitles found in the ifo file without the used having to do anything.
That's exactly what it does. And that's why I'm trying to understand why it's not working for you. That's why I asked for the log (which you didn't post). That's why I asked if you could extract the subs yourself. That's why I asked you to check the timestamps in the IDX.

[Phototaker]

I just received the update notification from 2.45 to 2.55 which I have downloaded & installed.

The reason that I didn't post log was because it seems to be pointless since the log clearly says no subtitles. Now that I have the new version installed I thought that I would have another go with a video that was only 23 minutes long. I added the Vob OK & selected audio OK. I then selected the ifo file which also said that it was 23 minutes long.

Once I click on the ifo file I still don't see anything filled in the output area. I don't know if if should see anything at this stage but when I select the vob it displayes the avi output files location, but for titles I get nothing. Even though I had selected a subtitle file I can't get the system to do a preview. No wonder the log saws no subtitles.

As for the 23 minute video I aborted the job. Before I clicked on the vob that I wanted, I set the output file size to 200. As the program started I noticed 2 things, firstly it said that there were no subtitles but also that the output file size was 1400 not 200. It then gave an estimate of about 135% for the new file size. It didn't seem much point in letting it continue.

I'm still surprised that the default output file size is for 2 CD's. I don't recall anyone ever outputting a video this way. Maybe the problems that I'm having have something to do with having either advanced settings, or hidden settings set incorrectly.

[manono]

I'm still surprised that the default output file size is for 2 CD's.
It's just the default and is easy to change. Plenty of people encode to that size - more in the past than nowadays, though.
Maybe the problems that I'm having have something to do with having either advanced settings, or hidden settings set incorrectly.
Maybe, and another reason I wanted a look at the log. But the thing for you to do now is to try and extract the subs yourself. If you can't do it, there's no reason to expect AutoGK to be able to do it.