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shamoo
10th January 2009, 21:37
hi all, i'm hoping someone can help me.
i am trying to get a blu-ray movie fit onto a 25gb blu-ray disc. i am having a slight problem,
when i load my m2ts file into tsmuxer i always get this coming up and there is 2 of them

AC3 eng Bitrate: 448kbps sample rate: 48khz channels: 6

do i need both of these? if so why?

setarip_old
10th January 2009, 21:50
Hi!

When you created the m2ts file from your original BluRay disc, did you include two audiostreams?

shamoo
10th January 2009, 22:36
i used anydvdHD to rip to hard disk on the original disc and when i went to take out the extras so it would fit i took out LPCM, as the file was still 30gb and left in those other two, but the file was still too big and i was wondering why it had 2 of the same in there. thinking that if i deleted 1 it would then fit.

i just wanted to know why is there 2 of them and do other people leave just one? or is there a reason there is two?

setarip_old
10th January 2009, 23:37
i just wanted to know why is there 2 of themDo they BOTH specify "eng" (English) and are they of IDENTICAL size?

Do two such tracks appear on the original BluRay disc?

shamoo
11th January 2009, 10:57
yes to all your questions. although i cant find out the size of them?

MikeyBK
11th January 2009, 11:18
Just use TSMuxer keeping only one of the AC3 eng streams.....You can then check the output to see if the proper audio stream is kept... TSMuxer doesn't take too long and you could always redo another if that AC3 was for some reason not the correct one...

shamoo
11th January 2009, 12:23
thanks for that i've just tried it and it is 26.4 gb, i'm going to try the other audio, but if its still to big is there away to shrink it by taking all the menus out or cropping the movie so there's no credits like you can do in dvd shrink? i'm trying to back up casino royale.

MikeyBK
11th January 2009, 13:44
thanks for that i've just tried it and it is 26.4 gb, i'm going to try the other audio, but if its still to big is there away to shrink it by taking all the menus out or cropping the movie so there's no credits like you can do in dvd shrink? i'm trying to back up casino royale.

Perhaps you already know of it, but....
You'd be better off using BD-RB (Beta) (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716) and outputting it to BD-R (25 GBs).
It takes a very long time to reencode but well worth it, you could just let it run while you sleep... my Core2Duo system takes about 7-8 hours.
I'm actually making movie-only back-ups onto BD-9s (on DVD DL in Bluray structure) and I can vouch to you that the video quality is almost indistinguishable from the original.

shamoo
11th January 2009, 16:18
i've not looked into that yet. i'm a bit confused as off why you can get a blu-ray movie to fit onto a dl dvd disc, why are blu-ray movies so big in size? if it can fit on 9gb?

Guest
11th January 2009, 17:13
Moving as this is no longer an audio encoding issue.

shamoo
11th January 2009, 17:26
in a nut shell how do i get just the movie and audio onto a blu-ray disk?
one more thing, why is the file size bigger out putting it as a blu-ray disc than it is put putting it as demux? and whats the next step with a demux folder?

Guest
11th January 2009, 17:55
If you selected only the tracks you need and output a BD and it is still too big, then you need to re-encode. Try BD-RB as suggested by MikeyBK.

Demuxed files are smaller because there is no container overhead. That won't help you because at the end you have to put the streams back into a container.

shamoo
11th January 2009, 20:05
right that's a couple more things cleared up, i'll try the BD-RB.

Turtleggjp
13th January 2009, 17:54
If you have stripped out all the unwanted audio and subtitle tracks, and it is still larger than 25GB, then your only options are to re-encode or burn to a 50GB disc. It is for this reason that I do not recommend stand alone Blu Ray players for anything other than playing back original discs, as the current price of BD blanks is still way too high.

vamsiklak
16th January 2009, 02:15
hello feloows
this forums rocks man
lot to learn and lot to teach
:thanks:
i have a question
when u ri p the unwanted audio tracks in Tsmuxer i know true-hd doesnot compile

how about dts-hd and lcpm if i can chosse to keep one of these formats
does Tsmuxer is compatable like ac3 track
please help
thannkx in advance

PassThePeas
16th January 2009, 20:59
hello feloows
this forums rocks man
lot to learn and lot to teach
:thanks:
i have a question
when u ri p the unwanted audio tracks in Tsmuxer i know true-hd doesnot compile

how about dts-hd and lcpm if i can chosse to keep one of these formats
does Tsmuxer is compatable like ac3 track
please help
thannkx in advance

Not really in the theme of the thread, but yes, dts-hd & lpcm are handled correctly by tsMuxer. I suggest you take a look at the tsMuxer thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=134104) for more information on this app.
And the issue with TrueHD is not compiling (or remuxing), it occurs when you try to play back the remuxed material on a stand-alone player.

vamsiklak
17th January 2009, 02:42
SO DTS-HD AND LCPM I CAN PLAYBACK ON STANDALONE PAYER
FOR NOW I WILL STAY Away from true-hd

sorry for the letters